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So what's the overall feeling this morning about last night??
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Devilot
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Pushka:
“They all seem obsessed with the idea that Science is a thief - Craig and Anthony were particularly exercised about the idea that Science would take for himself something which had been given to all of them to share (eg food) - completely forgetting the numerous alcohol-related incidents in which they have been involved.
At least Kemal didn't join in on that beef - after his "theft" of the toilet roll on last night's show...hang on, isn't the toilet roll something given to all of them to share??
Still, every cloud has a silver lining; Craig must have had the best evening of his stay there - he absolutely LOVED the bitching session - the nastier the better, as far as he is concerned.”


This is what makes me so annoyed. Everything they accused Science of doing last night, they have done themselves, 10-fold.
LaVidaLoca
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by hyacinthbee:
“This is what makes me so annoyed. Everything they accused Science of doing last night, they have done themselves, 10-fold. ”

Exactly.
This is not entertainment anymore. It's really frustrating. I am seriously thinking of not watching the live feed anymore. Too upsetting.
TOMMY C
18-07-2005
I agree I can't watch it. I'm so angry at Kemal and Craig.
siouxzy
18-07-2005
Derek has HUGE double standards... he goes on and on and on about Science being a thief when it was Derek who was caught eating the cornflakes from the box (no ettiquette there) in the middle of the night!! So what makes Derek different to Science?.... oh yes... he did it on the sly so no-one would know. Hypocrite!
darling
18-07-2005
The most memorable bit for me was when Science walked into the living room where the five creeps had worked themselves up into a completely spiteful frenzy bitching about him for hours and casually sat down amongst them.

He's got some guts.
pickle
18-07-2005
Damn had an early night last night and missed it.

Was it really that bad? i can imagine it was.

This spineless nasty bitching is really sickening me too, and i think Derek is the ring leader.

As a 40+ year old man he should know better, it's quite disgusting actually.
small_G
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by hyacinthbee:
“ive never cried for a contestant on BB before, but then again, ive never seen a bunch of vile cretins like the 'men' on the sofa last night. ”

And still some FM's will say Science deserved it. I guess to some people, the word 'morals' is one the've never understood.
Milly O'Naire
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“I think Science should be strung up by his balls.”

Please don't share your sexual fantasies with the rest of the forum... Too much information...
LaVidaLoca
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Milly O'Naire:
“Please don't share your sexual fantasies with the rest of the forum... Too much information...”


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

Loving your work
wilo
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by small_G:
“And still some FM's will say Science deserved it. I guess to some people, the word 'morals' is one the've never understood.”

Do you understand the word opinion?

Different people are going to see what happened differently based on what they saw, their own experiences, who they tend favour.

One of the things that makes Science a great housemate is that he polarised opinion because he is simultaneously a loudmouth who nevere listens to anyone and would try the patience of a saint and the only person in there who isn't a two-faced conniving bitch, who works hard at the tasks and who, when he isn't ranting, comes across as a genuinely decent person (apart from Eugene, but there is new information on that front).
Seebee
18-07-2005
They should all (except Eugene) be thoroughly ashamed of themselves............theres too much hate in the world.........it's only a game show FFS..............!?*
LaVidaLoca
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Seebee:
“They should all (except Eugene) be thoroughly ashamed of themselves............theres too much hate in the world.........it's only a game show FFS..............!?*”

If you were watching yesterday, you'd have seen that Eugene (thanks to Derek's careful and caring grooming/brainwashing) has joined in too
Lololala3363
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by LaVidaLoca:
“Anyway, back to the thread title..

A very bitter aftertaste.......

What a bunch of bullies, living in a parallel reality, judging by what they were accusing Science for. With each characterisation they uttered about him it sounded more and more like they were describing themselves!

BB has to do something about the nominations this week, otherwise as another FM said, they'd be SO predictable (thanks to Derek AGAIN!).............”

I don't think Science is the innocent party in all this, he was the one who blew up as usual over the food and he hurled plenty of insults himself. Just because they all start bitching about his completely erratic and OTT behaviour doesn't make them bullies, they are reacting to the way he exploded and insulted them. I'm not defending the others, just saying that Science is no innocent victim and they are as bad as eachother.
WhyBother6
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Seebee:
“They should all (except Eugene) be thoroughly ashamed of themselves............theres too much hate in the world.........it's only a game show FFS..............!?*”

Eugene could have wallked away but he followed like a sheep ..and I thought he and Science got on well too
knocker45
18-07-2005
I haven't read all the replies so I apologies if this has been said before,but I think the HM's have 2 problems with Science. 1 (and the reason he has me screaming at the TV)is that he doesn't know when to shut up and walk away even when he's in the right and 2 he has got this far without having to make allinaces none of them are strong enough to make it on their own e.g Ant now has a limpet atached to him but he knows he needs Craigs support.
Lololala3363
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by small_G:
“And still some FM's will say Science deserved it. I guess to some people, the word 'morals' is one the've never understood.”

Please don't question the morals of forum members because they happen to disagree with you and can see that Science isn't totally blameless.
Melanie20
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Milly O'Naire:
“Please don't share your sexual fantasies with the rest of the forum... Too much information...”


LOL
Ballyhooly
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by wilo:
“Do you understand the word opinion?

Different people are going to see what happened differently based on what they saw, their own experiences, who they tend favour.

One of the things that makes Science a great housemate is that he polarised opinion because he is simultaneously a loudmouth who nevere listens to anyone and would try the patience of a saint and the only person in there who isn't a two-faced conniving bitch, who works hard at the tasks and who, when he isn't ranting, comes across as a genuinely decent person (apart from Eugene, but there is new information on that front).”

Yes - but Eugene is just as bitchy. He is badly influenced by Derek, and his constant criticism about what people do with food, etc, is a joke, considering that he uses nearly all the tea bags, and rarely helps prepare food for anyone (yet is all too happy to take it).
LaVidaLoca
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Lololala3363:
“I don't think Science is the innocent party in all this, he was the one who blew up as usual over the food and he hurled plenty of insults himself. Just because they all start bitching about his completely erratic and OTT behaviour doesn't make them bullies, they are reacting to the way he exploded and insulted them. I'm not defending the others, just saying that Science is no innocent victim and they are as bad as eachother. ”


Science has bad communication skills, I will give you that.
However, under NO circumstances, did he deserve ALL that he got afterwards.

Derek's manipulation and exploitation of people's weaknesses at its best (i.e. Craig's jealousy that someone else might dare to breath next to Ant).
Beau
18-07-2005
Derek, Kemal, Makosi, Craig and Orlaith seem to have had so many different alliances/friendships since going in. They think nothing of turning on their friends at the drop of a hat. If you don't watch 24/7 you lose track of who is friends with who. At least Ant and Science have stayed pretty constant.

I know that I haven't mentioned Eugene yet - he has changed but I think he listens to and is influnenced by Derek too much, whereas the others need no such encouragement.
yellowlabbie
18-07-2005
I put myself in the HMs place and I know I could not live with Science, I think they have all done well to control their feelings until now. He takes things that do not belong to him eg bottle of win of Ant, Cigar off Derek, are just 2 I can think of and he shouts if anyone tries to tell him anything. Science I just want you to go now, double eviction, Makosi and Science.
Seebee
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by LaVidaLoca:
“If you were watching yesterday, you'd have seen that Eugene (thanks to Derek's careful and caring grooming/brainwashing) has joined in too ”

I was watching on the internet feed and cannot recall Eugene doing anything apart from watering the garden and asking Kemal if he was ok
LaVidaLoca
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Seebee:
“I was watching on the internet feed and cannot recall Eugene doing anything apart from watering the garden and asking Kemal if he was ok”

(while watering the garden and talking to Kemal):
He said that he didn't have a problem with Science, but his opinion on him has changed completely from what he's heard blah blah (through Derek of course) and that he cannot understand why he does some things.
zazza
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Seebee:
“I was watching on the internet feed and cannot recall Eugene doing anything apart from watering the garden and asking Kemal if he was ok”

Nope, he joined in with the bitching about Science alright..

Milly O'Naire
18-07-2005
I've been reading the Channel 4 Big Brother site. Craig is being shown in his true colours as a psychotic unstable back stabber, Anthony as thick and following everything Craig said and Makosi as unbelievably two-faced, turning on a long time friend etc. No-one mentions Eugene. And Science in the diary room in a sympathetic light.

I cannot understand the housemates. Don't they realise that they are being watched constantly and that their hypocritical behaviour is obvious to the general public? They only care about their own little world. I guess the house makes them like that.
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