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Susann
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Kayess:
“It's a compliment to Science that so many people inside and outside the house see him as a threat and therefore feel the need to attack him. They are the ones to be pitied for being unable to see the truth.”

That's exactly what it is and why the anti-Science threads have suddenly gone wild. Science is suddenly perceived as a threat to somes favourites It's kind of funny really
PositiveThinker
18-07-2005
J... Be intolerant to anyone who has a different opinion to you, to the point of wanting to knock his block off. Like, erm, Science.
PositiveThinker
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Kayess:
“It's a compliment to Science that so many people inside and outside the house see him as a threat and therefore feel the need to attack him. They are the ones to be pitied for being unable to see the truth.”

Saskia and Maxwell must have been the biggest threat to them all then.
Kayess
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by PositiveThinker:
“Saskia and Maxwell must have been the biggest threat to them all then.”

No they deserved what they got.
Susann
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by zimmy:
“In that case, Science must live in a Crystal Palace, with a glass extension, conservatory and Velux loft conversion ”

You seem pretty up on your knowledge of these glass houses/buildings
janep
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Why do the Science-bashers post out and out falsehoods (such. that housemates cannot have a reasonable discussion with him or that he always responds with rhetoric about the "hood" or similar)?

And why do they distort what happens, for instance ignoring the many times other housemates provoke him, including yesterday and last night?

It does get others who dislike Science to jump in and agree, but it can't be convincing anyone else.”


You clearly didn't watch it, or you would know what was truth. He ranted for hours without letting anyone else talk, he repeated the same mindless phrases that had no logical basis and often were simply lies.

When he is caught out, eg taking more than his share of food, he claims that he needs it, and he's not sorry, because he wants it. You must have seen him admit that on more than one occasion. He accused them of eating snacks and claimed that he didn't. This was *lies* again - he DOES have snacks between meals, bowls of cereal, etc, just like everyone else. And his late-night snacks are often large fry-ups. He has used the excuse that they eat bacon to take a lot more than his share of every other meat they ever get.

He's an accomplished liar, twisting the events to suit himself, pretending that he cooked for everyone, when in fact he has spent most of the time taking his food first: there are numerous occasions when he sneakily took a large portion of the limited food first, with the pretence that he doesn't trust them to cook for him.
Susann
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by PositiveThinker:
“Saskia and Maxwell must have been the biggest threat to them all then.”

With Maxwells and Saskia's smuggness, the pair certainly thought so and that they were untouchable a million percent
yellowlabbie
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Susann:
“With Maxwells and Saskia's smuggness, the pair certainly thought so and that they were untouchable a million percent ”

We are only doing to Science what you did to Max and Saskia, pointing out his faults.
Veri
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by PositiveThinker:
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Originally Posted by Veri:
“Why do the Science-bashers post out and out falsehoods (such. that housemates cannot have a reasonable discussion with him or that he always responds with rhetoric about the "hood" or similar)?”

They can't when he starts shouting. That's just a fact. Once he starts, it's impossible, unless you get down on your knees and beg him to listen.”

That's a different claim - it's not the one I was calling a falsehood.

Is is also false, though.
Quote:
“He walked into that room last night knowing full well he was not wanted, and what was going to happen.”

Oh? He could predict how vile Craig would be?

(Actually, that one is plausible. He could just remember the way Craig was in the first couple of weeks.)
PositiveThinker
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Kayess:
“No they deserved what they got.”

Oh right. Well it's good to be consistant.
Kore
18-07-2005
bye bye science
Veri
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by janep:
“You clearly didn't watch it, or you would know what was truth. He ranted for hours without letting anyone else talk, he repeated the same mindless phrases that had no logical basis and often were simply lies.”

I watched enough, and read enough WHATM, to know that that is not a fair summary of what happened.
Veri
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by hyacinthbee:
“I dont understand people who say 'until recently I wanted Science to win' - he HASNT changed, he is the same now as he was in week 1.

The only thing which HAS changed is the HM's have made him the subject of their bitching more and more because

a) their main rival (Maxwell) is no longer in the house

b)the finishing line is getting nearer and they can almost smell the money

and c) they realise that Science has a HUGE chance of winning and are trying to knock out the opposition.”

Right, and something similar is happening in the forum - and not only from people who have some other "favourite".

Now that Science has a good chance of winning, it's natural for people who don't like him to speak up.

However, some of them post so many distortions of what happens, in so many threads, that it ruins this forum as any kind of guide to what actually happened in BB6 and makes for very tedious and frustrating reading.

I don't mind partisan forum members. I'm often partisan myself. And a good polemic can be entertaining even when it's wrong.

But this is being taken too far.
PositiveThinker
18-07-2005
The unfortunate truth Veri, is that Science fans are seeing what they want to see so that they can continue to justify their support for the intolerant one with the big gob, who screams abuse at people, and picks fights with just enough people to play the victim.

It's true, it's true.
slappers r us
18-07-2005
science loves to play the hard done by down trodden victim

i hate the way he is always going on about the way hes looking after people and cooking and cleaning for them and they do nothing for him

god help anyone who wants to cook its never good enough for science it has to be cooked his way or not at all he says hes going to cook before anyone gets a chance to

even roberto gave up on him

he plays the victim quite well
Susann
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by PositiveThinker:
“The unfortunate truth Veri, is that Science fans are seeing what they want to see so that they can continue to justify their support for the intolerant one with the big gob, who screams abuse at people, and picks fights with just enough people to play the victim.

It's true, it's true.”

The unforunate truth ? What are you on about.

Science fans have made it clear they support him regardelss of his few faults. I feel the need at times to write a bit on this then copy and paste it in answer to every time this is twisted. It saves time and effort at least.

We don't have to justify our support for Science at all. We support him for our own reasons, same as other people support their favourite housemates .

The highlighted piece of your post can apply to anyone of the housemates.

Maybe I should childishly go round the forum picking holes in yours and a few others favourite housemates and then turn round and say they are trying to justify their support of so and so who is a loud mou................etc; and see how you might respond.
kongus
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by PositiveThinker:
“J... Be intolerant to anyone who has a different opinion to you, to the point of wanting to knock his block off. Like, erm, Science.”

i'm not sure i can ever recall science implying violence,let alone almost instigating it,but maybe you've seen something BB didn't see,cos i'm sure they'd've warned him,and i think we'd've been shown the footage of his warning in the diary room.but maybe not.......

so to sum up,your

K..(would be) DO ANYTHING YOU WANT,even if it's illegal,just don't be argumentative,and certainly don't deign to do it at high volume.

ok then.can you be my new chief of police please?
Maisie74
18-07-2005
He's a complete fool, thick as sh*t and has nothing intelligent to say, god I never thought I'd hear myself say it but bring back Maxwell.

Why none of the housemates have given him a good kicking I will never know.
yellowlabbie
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by kongus:
“i'm not sure i can ever recall science implying violence,let alone almost instigating it,but maybe you've seen something BB didn't see,cos i'm sure they'd've warned him,and i think we'd've been shown the footage of his warning in the diary room.but maybe not.......

so to sum up,your

K..(would be) DO ANYTHING YOU WANT,even if it's illegal,just don't be argumentative,and certainly don't deign to do it at high volume.

ok then.can you be my new chief of police please?”

He threw a bin at Max.
Susann
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Maisie74:
“He's a complete fool, thick as sh*t and has nothing intelligent to say, god I never thought I'd hear myself say it but bring back Maxwell.

Why none of the housemates have given him a good kicking I will never know.”

So you like Maxwell and you also condone violence hey. And I see your reasons for not liking Science are very intelligent as well.
Susann
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“He threw a bin at Max.”

Did the bin hit Maxwell? Science had already said the bin slipped. Why not believe him ?
antimaxwell
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by PositiveThinker:
“Saskia and Maxwell must have been the biggest threat to them all then.”

Yeah, they were the biggest threat to themselves with their yobbish behaviour
kongus
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“He threw a bin at Max.”

good point,i'd forgotten that (not on purpose) but also,he denied it,so,apparently,like scabgate,it remains unproven

but if it was,then surely he'd've got a warning,which he did NOT,so in a way,it's as if his dart bounced out..NO THROW
yellowlabbie
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Susann:
“Did the bin hit Maxwell? Science had already said the bin slipped. Why not believe him ?”

Science threw the bin at Max, luckily it missed him, he chose to say he slipped otherwise he would have been in big trouble. That is what happened, stop making excuses for him.
Maisie74
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Susann:
“So you like Maxwell and you also condone violence hey. And I see your reasons for not liking Science are very intelligent as well.”

Oooh where did I say I liked Maxwell? Could you go find that post for me please?

Get over yourself love.
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