Science chooses not to make friends, that's his choice. Derek, early on, formed a bond with Science & it worked for a while.

If you're not prepared to listen to others and at his age he thinks he's learnt all he needs to know in life, you can't possibly learn anything, that's when Derek gave up. Another important thing he needs to learn is if he wants people to listen to what he has to say, then shouting is not the way to do it.

Whether he'll ever learn some proper communication skills is doubtful but they're essential when you want to be heard.

There has never been a character like Science on BB before, because it is not the place you would expect to find someone like him.

He is a radicalised, conscious, idealistic young black man, whose ideals were much more common in the 70's and 80's and barely survive today in the 'bling culture' of Thatchers children. He comes from an area where people are described as the lumpen proletariat, dismissed and derided for having missed the boat that is the 'great meritocracy' we have today.
Derek said last night that its people like Science who ruin the ideas of meritocracy that he has taken advantage of!

Science knows he is alone in there and will only be able to make fleeting alliances. He has seen it as his role to act like a Greek chorus, commenting on the action all through the show. He has consistently confronted the HM's with their actions and reflected their weaknesses and pettiness back to them. Of course they hate him, partly because he is a member of the most derided section of society and partly because they can't bear to look at themselves.

Fortunately we can see that Science comes from a large, loving and supportive family and really doesn't need support from within the house. Many of the HM's can see how vile their behaviour is in there, they just don't have the strength to stop it.

Science refuses to fall into their weak ways and sticks to his principles.

He's doing a fantastic job and is an inspiration in this selfish, dog eat dog world.

I don't think Science cares in the slightest that he hasn't any friends in the house, and who could blame him.

Sorry, ujala, but I think that what you wrote was hokum. For example:


Or, to put it another way, he just doesn't know when to shut up about other people.

God Derek is such a moron.

He clearly has no idea where the "idea of meritocracy" came from.

Indeed, who on earth would want any of that lot for a friend. I'm just sad that he thought Eugene might become a friend, but alas he's cut from the same cloth as the rest of them.

People should be allowed to make mistakes but Science makes far too many.

Everyone's entitled to their views and opinions but I don't understand how people can say time and again that they respect Science for apologising. He obviously learns nothing from his mistakes, his apologies are empty and I feel aimed more at the audience than the HM concerned.

This is such a shame.He has no respect for women.My sympathy just doesn't stretch this far

You know, it would be so much easier if everyone just agreed, that some people will hate science even if he became pope, other people would love science, even if he became, erm, the anti-erm-pope.

I don't really agree with that. Science's ability to understand that he was in the wrong and apologise for it is one of the things about him that I most admire. I don't believe his apologies are empty and done for the camera, or that he learns nothing from his mistakes.


I've wondered about this. He seems very fond of Makosi, but he has at times seemed like he really doesn't care much for women.

OK then, small, you stop posting in support of Science and I'll stop criticising him. Deal?

Now that sounds like a good deal.

(I can safely accept that deal, as I'm heading off in about 10 minutes or so).

I'll watch your posts carefully, then, for the next 24 hours or so, and see if you keep your word. Somehow, I doubt if you will...

Incidentally, I'm notorious for breaking promises anyway. It's one of the many flaws in my character.

Lol, gosh darn it.

I'll just go slate other housemates, and not mention the, erm, unmentionable one in the posts.

Makosi and Science have always been friends. She knows the knives are out for her, both the devious Kamal the Derek are spewing their venom about everywhere. They are also after Science. In my view they have broken the BB rules but they won't be punished because they don't want Science or Makosi to win. I think they want boring Anthony. If Makosi is certain she is going she may well stick her neck out and protect Science. She tried last night to say keep the shouting down and he will get on better. She mentioned his father saying this, but Science is hard to help. If he hadn't had a shouting match with Orlaith she could have been a friend because women tend to like him. But I don't think she is going to change now. He will definitely be up for eviction probably against Makosi or Orlaith.

An ability to apologise is admirable.But IMO,learning from mistakes is trying not to make the same ones constantly. As far as I can tell he is dealing with arguments worse than ever which is why he seems to have learnt nothing.

I hope it's not too late to turn this around

Say what you will about Science.

But he puts some backbone into the tasks, and he just did again just then.

He got a good applause afterwards

Science does have a friend in the house,Makosi.
Anyway,the difference is some of the others NEED friends,Science only WANTS friends.

Thats why we respect him.

I agree, the sooner Science is voted out the better.

As Science said,i never agreed to disagree.

he is so annoying but he is the only "real" person in the house, he takes a lot of abuse from other housemates and I dont know how he lets it go over his head most of the time, I heard Ant say he was a piece of dirt one time, thats not called for, he is better of on his own the others are vile!!!

Science doesn't need anyone of those people in the BB house to be his friend, with friends like that, who would need enemies !

Science the lone wolf with a heart strong as a lion. Science to win

Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't think he means to make the same mistakes all the time. His biggest problem is that he is completely blind to his own faults, so he doesn't really know WHY it is that he keeps making the same mistakes over and over.

Don't you think it would be impossible to learn much in that kind of environment?

Afterwards, sure, when you've had a chance to step back and reflect on things, you'd probably learn a lot about yourself if you were so inclined. But an atmosphere where everyone has to walk around constantly on the defensive with their guard up probably makes it impossible to, y'know, learn and grow as a person and all that malarkey. You're too busy trying to survive with your ego intact; if you spent much time criticising yourself you'd be toast.

I hold out a reasonable amount of hope for Science gaining some insight into himself from the experience. At least we've seen he does have the capacity for self reflection and the ability to admit he is wrong, which is a great start.

I don't know if I really share your hope.

Being able to admit you're wrong is certainly something, but I don't agree that Science has shown much capacity for self reflection.

That's funny, when I watch Eugene and Science in a convo, Science's head keeps lolling as Eugne drones on and on about something extremely tedious...