As do I!!

Last night he came out on tops for me! If it weren't for the fact that my favourite is so hated by the GBP, I would want Science to win!!!!

Cryage might just get louder boo's than Vanessa.

Plus i cannot wait for his eviction night. That will be unmissable

My advice to anyone going to read that thread is to look out in particular for JingleJangle's posts as that poster did a brilliant job of transcripting what was happening.

I can just lump them all together on here if people want. I'll just look at my previous posts list

Good idea!

That leaves out all the details of all the blokes sitting plotting to expose Science and then the arguments when he had the nerve to...*shock horror* walk into the room they were in Also misses out how whilst Science argued with Anthony in the other room,Craig decided they should all "attack" Science when he came in and Derek said "NO let's all ignore him and walk away " which they did until Craig decided he wanted to argue with Science too, for apparently "Trying to come between him and Anthony" After that they all went back to bitching about Science again and Science was wandering around on his own.

Please please please do jinglejangle!

Kemal still believes that Makosi is a mole. He made a comment to her about not to do to him what she is doing to other people, Maksoi understandably got upset.

Craig and Science had an argument over food. Some say it was about bacon been put in the monce, Craig claims that Science took more than his fair share. Science kept going for a while raising the hackles on all the other hms.

Derek encouraged Kemal to confront Orla about the stuff she has been saying about him.

Derek, Kemal, Anthony, Eugene, went to the LR to all bitch about Science. Science then comes in and another argument breaks out with Craig and Science.

When Science leaves again the above quartet gather and slate Science again. Derek lies and say that Science has never called him a dark deceiver to his face, Craig lies and say he has never given Science permission to go in his draw for anything, Derek did pull Craig up about this. Derek claims that Maxwell was a man of honour and he really liked him and Saskia

Bascially. Sciemce is now the person
Who eats all the food
Bitches about all the hms and gossips
Is a thief.
Is trying to break up the friendship between Anthony and Craig.

the wham thread is very biased towards science even i kept of it most of the night because if you dare dis science you are immediately shot down

i think the afternoon thread was more telling where science was concerned even a lot of his more avid supporters were thinking science was wrong

Good call JJ - you did a sterling job and those posts deserve to be posted for prosperity. Almost perfect word for word. You are my FM of the month

k. give me a couple of minutes

Yep that just about sums it up. i have Pm'd you trying to say it in three sentences Jenni...but this version is better.

I was on here until 3am..and some people were actually turning off their TV's (including me)as it was like watching car crash TV, watching Science, one of the nicer HM's be accused of everything from homophobia to rascism.

With the exception of a handful of Science haters who posted the same points again and again, most people agreed that Science did well and didn't deserve any of it.

I believe, that as long as C4 don't show Science in too bad light (btw..I watched earlier in the afternoon and Science told everyone he was cooking mince and pasta for his tea and put it aside, so they could have seen then what he had taken and taken some back but the people he said it to agreed...am I the only one who saw that?)...I believe the others could have handed it to him to get to the final week. And so he should.

Craig blew the whole situation out of proportion again and spent the night declaring his love for Anthony and how he would kill anyone who so much as looked at him the wrong way.

Science didn't do himself any favours, he wouldn't listen to anyone and he kept trying to argue in rhyme which, as we know makes him sound stupid.

Kemal finally flipped about Makosi being an actress working for BB. Why she doesn't just tell him she isn't is anyone's guess.

Ooo yes, thanks for your posts last night, for those of us who went to bed early they were a godsend this morning for an unbiased view of what happened. But I still love Science and want nothing else this summer but for him to win.

Hi JTH,

In short, Science has tapped into his uncanny ability to make others accuse him of their own bad traits. Sour grapes about him getting the biggest cheers on Friday are also a prominent feature of this recipe.

I think what Jenni will learn most from these responses is that Science is still a DS cult hero.

Tonight's highlights show may present a different viewpoint.

I do agree with you on this. I'm as big a Science fan as anyone, but whilst I agree with most people that he probably wasn't the one that started the problems, he was the one who made them carry on and on. He seemed to be following people into rooms to start arguments.

I still like him though. By the way Jenni, hope you had a good weekend away, Dublin's a really nice place.

Last night proved that when it came to bullying and bitching and sheer spitefulness the female members of the House needed to master classes in the subject from the males. Devious Devil Derek, first set up Makosi and made Craig turn against her, after the latter had been a beacon of support to her on Friday.Then told Kemal that the destruction of Makosi could wait: whilst he helped orchestrate an all out attack on Science with his new friends Ant and Craig and in remembrance of Maxwell, who Derek claimed was "such an intelligent man."

The 4 man attack on Science became as nasty as anything thrown Sam's way and culminated in the foursome agreeing that Science should be sent to Coventry.

Eugene is perceived as being Derek's toady and not the independent spirit we had hoped.

Craig was hysterical because Ant was still prepared to talk with Science, despite all of Craig's best efforts.

It will be interesting to see whether after the
activities of last night, the males will now be perceived to be culpable of bitching and pelted by the eviction crowd, and whether Craig will be labeled a sexual obsessive in the manner of Michelle. Or whether the fact that they are male excuses them of behaviour which leads to near violent public condemnation if exhibited in any degree by women!
p.s
As your request was far longer than 3 sentences, so is my reply.

LOL

You forgot to mention that Derek re-christened Craig to "Craigie" after Craigie demanded that Anthoneee tell Craigie that he loved him - Craig "tell me you love me Anthoneee. Go on tell me you love me, repeat it...". Also, the venim that spilled from Derek's 10 year old voice when describing Science behind his back.


All in all a Despicable Event.

this is a lot longer than i thought so i'll break it into two posts...hope it all goes thru, not sure if they limit the number of characters.

Makosi is sick of this place. People say what they want to say. She wants to be alone and told kemal to get off her bed. She doesn't want to say things she might say and regret it in the morning.
M: go f'ng nominate me in the morning, you've told me you have once already, i don't like being threatened
K: did i threaten you, i didn't, and don't come out with remarks like that because i sat round a table on friday and said your name
M: you threaten me, in my bed, you know what kemal, you talk about what you want
K: that hurts me you say that
M: i want you to cos it hurts me, only reason why i said do not talk to me like that cos you said whatever you're doing to people in this house don't do it to me
K: i didn't say people, i said whatever you're doing in here dont' do it to me
M: God...hmmmm
S: what's going on
M: nothing
S thought you said there was no beef
M: there wasn't but someone thinks they are so powerful they can't
K: as a friend i said one thing to you, i said i'd be hurt, please don't ever, ever, don't, i ask you please don't and you come out with that, i asked you please don't to me
S: what what what what what..what you doing
M: i'm chewing
S: well science leaves the room again and misses out on a bit of entertainment, what happened
M: don't worry about it
S: you don't need to tell me details

Kemal outside in living room....
K: that what you want, I'll tell them all...

flash flash flash as he tries to light a cig, he's very agitated..i'll send this one and transcribe more as it happens

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M also said to kemal you're dying to talk about what happened friday nite in there, but they were talking so fast i couldn't squeeze that in

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M: he's a joke, a proper joke
S: everybody's on edge, told you you don't know where you stand with anybody that's why you only trust me

Orla enters the room

O:what's happened, what's wrong
M: you can go for a swim i'll tell you
O; no no tell me now
M: k comes to me and tells me that you and v were the ones who told him about his parents lying....i have had it in this house, i have had it
O: the one thing i can say is this everyone has said an awful lot about everyone and whenever that eviction came up last week and i said it in front of k and i was thinking and i said you were friends and shouldnt' nominate each other
M: i told you k thinks i'm an actress
O: you've told me quite a bit of things, things i've been told is then whenever i say it that's whenever i realize that what people are really like, i come in here in week 5 and i'm being told stuff
M: when you're in the middle of it you don't realize it and now he just said to me, cos he thinks i'm an actress, whatever you are in this house don't do it to me, i said k are you threatening me, he said you've chosen the wrong time to do it, i said if you're threatening to nom me why don't you just go ahead and do it again, and he felt so bad..orla i don't quit but i can't take this anymore
O: in the dr i said i'm not a quitter but im that close
M: i can't takeit anymore, i just chucked him off my bed, i said get off my bed
S: i was just chillin and come back and it's war
M: i think the best thing in this house is when someone comes to talk to you is say i dont' wann know
O: last week strange with V cos we were just sitting chatting but we dont' know
M: but i trusted V and I still trust V..i don't knwo why she went to K and said orla and that said this and that....and he said, don't do it, you're choosing the wrong time to do it, and i said if you're saying V is the one to come tell you this, V told me you didn't love me and he started going ah ah....ahhhhhhhh
O: you know what you need to do and i've learnt my lesson, no matter how long i have left in this house, you need your own time, you need to have your own time and your own thoughts
S: was i invading that
M: no
S: orla?
O: yes
S: is that why you were kicking off at me
O: yes
S: sorry
M: even if you and derek have issues i thought why are one to do it in front of an audience........

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C: i said this instantly, i said k looks like he's being pushed out
K: that day when we had that convo, it was me and ant that started that convo and it took my friends in here that convo to come out with and i was like it took ant to start that convo to find out what my friends were coming out with
C: over the last few days in particular a lot of things coming to light, a lot of thigns being false, their colors are showing, i dont' know who said what to you and i don't know what they said..
K: i said that, you have to q the motives of a person that comes and tell you something
C: we never listen, we don't give a F we don't give a shit, unless they talk about that boy blah blah blah, not have my family attacked blah blah blah (you know the speech)

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K: but imagine having what you had with ant and then having to worry about the entire 8 weeks, would you not understand...that isn't the only issue but
C: i've thought you've done some stuff out of order, didn't like what you done to sask and max and other stuff but at the same time you're not the only one that's done it..like that noms thing, i didn't care
K: again with eveyrone i said you don't know the full story nobody listened to me
C: You're not the only person to be untrue false about things, my saying is practice what you preach
K: i never once said no (about nominating i think(
V: V can't preach at you when she admitted on her own accord she was talking about noms
K: though it looked like something i'd done wrong i hadn't
C: shocked you didn't pick M but at the same time what you do is up to you
K: exactly why are people talking about it who weren't there..nobody said why didn't anyone pick vanessa it's why did k pick makosi..if someone asks i'll talk about it but it's nobody else's biz, just cos my pick was different to everyone else's why does that matter
C: lot of powerful people in this house making others look like their the gossips and shitstirrers, science is one of those people..he came in theDR with me and Ant that is something I do with my mates (snicker) forced his way in, sat in there, lashed out at ant cos i didn't know how to deal with it..ant asked why you had a go the last couple of days...sound dip

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C: i'm not going to lie, i dont' personally think i've been an evil hm, i've not been the best hm

back to the bedroom...

S: burp..excuse me
M: all they do with derek but then they're the first ones to know why people gossip
O: who's this
M: kemal and derek
O: but it's almost over
M: i've got sharp eyes, i've seen so many things happen in this house, but when people argue about them i just keep quiet about them, a lot of things and then when i just try and open my mouth someone says you'er choosing the wrong time to do it
O: it's not all that was said, when i was called to the dr
M interrupts: don't think that was the best time ..when you talk to people you do not want an audience, why do you need an audience...she would have probably explained exactly why she said it but you had an audience there, you wanted to feed an audience but then he goes at the end of the day you're trying to put it on vanessa ..your'e telling me stuff v said and v not here..and then he start saying ATEOTD (new abbrev for at the end of the day) he thinks i'm not a contestant, in front of science he says i'm not even gonna start talking
S: then i left and come back and there's bear beef kicking off
M: i said get off my bed, i do not take people talking to me like that, you've Fing vexed your own head that i'm not an actress, cos you cannot believe anyone can have potentially more attention than you..you still cannot understand week 1, why i picked orla and eugene, why i drop that egg, you want more drama than i got
S: when they dont' know who you are and sussed you out, they throw things they know within themselves at you
M: exactly, the best friends that he was saying i am to orla, can't come between my best friend, he throws that card, what if i was an actress and he says that in front of science, that would be the end of me,he is the most tactful person, he said that at the table cos of tactic not cos he loves vanessa..he lied about nom he starts talking about dreams, he wanted to put the blame on A&C...honestly im telling you what i think of this boy and now he is saying you don't wanna play that card with me i'll tell everyone who you are
M: everyone else knows i'm a contestant, bb knows, it doesn't matter what a 19 yo who doesn't know if he's straight or gay..i cannot waste my time with people like k go talk to whoever you want to talk to about whatever you want to talk about
O: he was confident you were best friends but you just don't know a person till you really really get to know them and i told him that in the loft i actually told him his mum and dad were nice people
M: he told me that you don't think my parents love me and use it as a cheap shot..he told me his parents didn't love him and i thought he was lying..i dont' care what V said cos she's not here right now, ATEOTD i did not believe his parents didn't love him
O: on the footage they love him to bits..i said k the footage they sent really really nice you've nothing to worry about, and i said that to him on Friday dont' worry about anything you'll be fine
M: people can be friends whoever they want to be friends with especially on a sunday nite
S; this game is espionage..to destroy a person, give a person something which could be false or false impressions

back to living room

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C: what would be the point..at this point i can't be manipulated, when people slag my friends off (same again lol blah blah blah) I spoke to O tonite and from what she was saying i said orla i think you're a bitch a gossip but not a deep down bad person..same time good you did in in front of M but you should do it with O on her own
K: in this house no more pvt moments left, we will clarify what's been said and then you'll say something different, from now on we need witnesses to clarify what's been said it's that bad
C: i'm not gonna slag her off to you, i dont' need to, want to , she's your mate
K: right, orla on the first nite i came on the first nite you said i didn't like you...the only first nite i said do you think they know anything
C: i said to o you 2 coming in the house i was not happy with cos 2 of my friends are gone and 2 are still here...blah blah
K: just cos i'm not best friends with you we're still friends as far as i'm concerned
C: all you can do is talk to the person you care about personally on your own
K" we just tried to do but she said you should not
continue talking in front of people..she continued it in front of other people and i didn't want to, screaming and shouting
C: i don't know what to say, i dont' know what this house is about, all I understand is i got my anthony in here (blah blah blah

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K: you imagine somebody else coming in and befriending ant and then ant coming back, you'd be less upset with the person coming in and upset with ant
C: i wouldn't blame the person i'd blame my friend
K: I went thru it once with V in a way and then orla
C: i grew apart from V cos of certain acts she done, she did certain things to me and lesley we didn't like, when i got upset with you and this whole team brit thing, now when lesley left people knew how upset i was, i was in tears cos i thougth she the one person i can trust and she's gone, i beared V no ill will at all, i'm not ever gonna preach she was my best friend but she was not my worst enemy and i felt bad for her cos i knew that little girl was frightened (on fri) but if you got an issue you need to speak individually and 2 they should respect you as a friend to wanna discuss it pvtly, if i have a prob with Derek i discuss it pvtly i don't need a stage..obviosly people been going between people stirring, i'm disappointed in makosi

sound dip

D: she was not above reproach, within 2 days of being in house she hated sas
C: did she
D hated her with a passion and would say dreadful things about Sas in front of me him and mak cos everyone else was anti sas...I was actually neutral to sas even after what i said, that was one incident, if somebody can come into this house and not know any of the characters and within 2 days...

switched to DR door and Ant

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M: that's why i said bake me some biscuits, i could have given that beer for free you know
O: i've got a beer you can have for free ...this is just so pathetic, this is very good for me, i needed this
S: it's learning things about different people really, i learn a couple of things about myself ...only reason i'm in here is cos the big guy picked one well, i came in here as an anomoly, who knows
O" if i hear the british public one more time..oh god

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M: and to think i nearly went home, this close to going home on fri and then i hve this bs
O: you knwo what we gotta stick at it
M: i can't take it anymore
O: we're not quitters maksoi
M: I cant do this, i'm not fit enough to do something like this
O: i thought i wasn't fit enough to do something like this, if i'm not up on Fri, if i find out on tues i'm not up i'm gonna stick it out, i'm not gonna be a quitter
M: i can't mentally physically spiritually, i consult my bible when something like happens on what i have to do...i can't do this
S: what's so hard about waking up in the morn sunbathing a bit and doing a task
M: i can feel myself losing it, mentally going
O: we're the only 2 girls left we need to stick at it
M: i can't do it
O: i can't but i am just gonna do it, just gonna be so selfish to myself and let myself go thru this shit, it's only once in a lifetime that you're gonna do it and i'm gonna do it
M: i'm gonna wait for everyone to come in and then tell them who i'm gonna nominate and then get chucked out of here
S: you do that you're not getting kicked out you're just gonna be exempt
M: well nom me and i'll go on frid
S: everyone will, you can read who they all nom this week by looking at em, i can see
O: you're gonna look like someone who just can't take the fact

BB: this is bb hms reminded not to talk about nom or audition process

M: i'm gonna talk about it tonite and that way you don't have to put it on tv or anything, i want them to kick me out or if not i want the others to nom me and if the british public dont' like me they can kick me out
O: honestly take it in the chin, like rise above it..just get on with it, stick it out, it's nothing coming from me cos i'm cracking up aswell, just stick it out, dont' let them show that you're weak
M: at home right now i be in bed sleeping, watching telly or reading my bible not amongst demons in here

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O:you said it aswell, when it's your time to go it's your time to go, it's not worth it, i'd love to be here the last week
M: i can't do it, it's sunday i don't think i can make it thru to friday
O:i've thought that oh my god i've only been here four weeks tomorrow

sound dip

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Living room peeps bitchin about science.
C: why dont' we all expose him tomorrow and put him on the spot, saying stuff about derek, kemal orla
D: he is a nasty piece of work
C: he is the one going about slating people

talking about the debate task and how derek got into character and he was glad max asked him to speak cos i felt that what i was doing and saying was easy for me.

E: i was happy to defend science but basically my opinion changed that friday nite
A: no disrespect to the bloke but i was thinking wait till you live with the bloke and your opinion will change slightly..i get on alright with the bloke
D: complete mole

science walks in the room

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S: surprised your in the same room with kemal
C: i've just sorted my issues with kemal..you've called derek the dark deceiver
S: he is i've called it to his face
D: this is the first time i've ever heard the words
Science ranting
D: good luck, back to leeds

S: don't let things go to your head or you will get burnt
C: you are out of your league with me boy, you don't know what i am, who i am or what i do
S: i've been here as a man since i got here, lot of boo boo crying, shaving your head and feet touching...he's had a couple of halves and got a little bit brave..please do not pick a war with a man that lives by the ...... you're a system fraud, citizen science, power to the people
C: what people
S: people who kept me in..don't let things go to your head cos you see what happens...why would i get overconfident for what if i've already got confidence, why would i get egotistical if i've already got ego...if you wanna play a game of win or lose if you wanna choose to lose go ahead and lose
C: you give a shit about everything science
S: ..cos everything isn't alwasy everything (F about, he talks riddles and i can't keep up lol)

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S: stop being stupid, we're all here by ourselves..if only those things that you lot came up with are all you've got...
C: you're arrogant
S: you think i'm arrogant, you're a system fraud..
A: listen listen
S: i dont' want to listen, i've listened right..on and on
A: you won't listen
C: i don't Fing care if my arse goes tomorrow you idiot
S: I dont' give a frig
A: you get on people's nerves
C: he's a moron a Fing moron who i finally exposed for his true colors i've last, he's just exposed his true colors, idiot, idiot, he does not liek you, he does not like me, he is Fing evil, you know what i've been crying in the bed today, i feel sick i feel bad can't believe we sat in here talking to him tonite when our friend was gone..people like k who i've had my shit with, had a decent conversation, m is playing a game taht's why she was booed cos people know what she's playing at, she the one who told k everything that o said, she is fing everything up in this house which is why she was booed....s is a fing knob, a knob
A: only me and you who are tight, really close



in bedroom
S: idiot
M: between you and me how much champagne you had
S: dribbles, dreg ends, you know how much alcohol to get drunk, i'm not drunk..i went in there and it became ww, i've been told i can go in people's drawers when i go get a cig...i've only been telling truth, honesty best policy, shouldn't say it in the first place..dark deciever
D you haven't got the intelligence or the wisdom cos you are an ignorant young child
S I'm learning from you and then i'm this that
D people like you are a disgrace to people like me and that's why we have such problems being black in this country
S you heard it now from the mans mouth, people like me is the reasons why we have problems in this country, being like him means we gotta lick a lot of arse, i'll be like me, citizen science to the end.
Science preaching to us on the camera now lol

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A; he speaks the truth
D; no he speaks his truth which isn't the same as speaking the truth...the thing is and this is it for me in in in in in in in all honestly is that science really wants respect, science
A; he isn't prepared to give it out
D; science really wants to be a man and is not capable of distinguishing between reasonableness and unreasonableness and h has a lot to learn before he can ever be regarded as a man and it's as simple as that
C: he's had a few drinks

sound dip

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C: he is a disgrace a disgrace of a person that days are numbered and i will expose him for what it is, one way or another you idiot...

science back...

S: i haven't come waving hte white flag, i've come cos the ladies are going to sleep, i've come to see the dark deceiver

derek moving elsewhere

S: don't run away, what you running away for, is that running away from yourself
D: have another drink
S: i don't need another drink..shiny bald head..........right i'll talk on another level, is this talking..i've been going around manipulating, my names not derek, if you think it's a threat right it's a threat
C: you think you're a threat to people cos you think you're supreme..you are not a threat to me or him...I do it in a joking way
S: shouting--you doing it in a joking way now (science getting agitated)
C: take the piss dig yourself into a hole...you're two years older than me yet i've achieved
S: when you look back at all, you'll see
A: he's hte loyalist person here
S: loyal to you..but are you loyal to yourself
C: i don't care about me i care about him
S: i dont' care about you
C shouting: i don't want you in this Fing room

switch to kemal and derek

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D: craig is very strong
K: i want to talk to derek for ten minutes (to eugene), she said v told me that you and orla were trying to convince her my parents were a lie...it ended fine and i said one comment..do what you're doing in here but do it to everybody but don't do it to me cos if i get out and you've done it to me i'll be very hurt, she exploded, doing what doing what kemal what have i done to you....she went get off my bed, i don't want you on my bed, i don't wanna see you i don't wanna talk to you, you threatened to out me once before
D: were people in there at this stage
K; not yet, science walks in she carries on..i don't wanna talk about it now, she goes go on tell him go on tell him, i said listen i don't wanna talk about it now

Craig walks in He's not sitting in a room with Fing that lot

D: don't listen to it, everytime he follows us we'll go to another room

K: so she carries on science is there

C: he preaches this mr right all the time he's the biggest hypocrite in this house, if the cameras can't, i will, end of..you know what his only attack is against me is because i haven't been friendly with him and because i'm allied with (sound dip)....

C: he tried to cause a rift between me and sask by making people attack each other
D: no hope of ever being trusted the only thing he wants to do is make other people worse and divide and rule
C: he's tried to cause a divide between me and anthony the last week, have you noticed that...if the public love him, fine...sound dip

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Science arguing with ant about food

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D: i've shared with him, cigarettes, resources, biscuits, my beloved skipping rope, ...i brought up in a multiracial environment where an attack on one person was an attack on everyone...his behaviour is the sort of thing that kept back the advancement of a meritocratic society which i have benefitted from
Eugene: yeah yeah yeah
C: we should blank him leave him alone, do you know what when he walked in that DR do you know who i thought of, have a guess
D; that alien thing
C: i thought of maxwell immediately

back to ant and science arguing about food

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D: he's turned me into a racist
C: he has ruined this experience for me in a lot of ways he's said a lot of nasty stuff, i thought my points were valid his weren't, he tries to turn ant against me all the time, that's probably what he's trying to do now, he won't succeed he'll never succeed, i'm his biggest thread in this house cos he can't drive a wedge between me and ant, he don't like it, he can't stand it, he can sit in there and slag me off all night, he just tried to cause shit between me and him, when he comes in we'll attack him together

Science in the room..everone moving out

S: it's alright, everyone is gonna runaway, i'm not homophobic you idiots, now you wanna make a fuss about things (shouting it over and over)
A: i'll say what i feel, i can't believe you're here before max cos in terms of blokes a much nicer bloke than you..in terms of living with someone, big time handful over maxwell, in terms of nicer blokes, a much nicer bloke
S: that's your opinion
A: and the public have got a much wider range of opinion which i don't understand, you known i've thought that (about he should have gone first)

Talking about a task now.

a: you've just said the task consisted of..dont' say anything craig please, you said stopping in a room with them constantly, if there's anyone in here i don't want to be stuck with i have no choice, if someone's in a room and i say leave that can't be possible, so don't hoi that shite
S; why you in there now with them
A; cos that's my fave room, been my fave room...sound dips..
S; you know what it means, your best in numbers innit

back to living room

D: look at him weedy, pathetic humanless human being
K: cos all i said was makosi don't do it to me
D: leave that issue for one night, put it aside

Back to kitchen
S: watch that you don't get diluted and polluted
A: this is my only mate, only person i wanna see
S: what you standing like that for, you got something to say
C: you are a selfish arrogant arsehole, cause rifts between people and attack people, at last your evil ways have become clear
S: have you heard the system fraud, a couple of things have gone to his head i think he needs to go to bed himself
C: dont' be sick, two beers and you been sick

back to living room
K: he loves the attention of arguing
D: it's the only way he can get attention, he's a theif, and he's a liar
K: not very unique so he has to do something

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Science waiting to go in DR. Still shouting loud.

C: you upset cos some like him and don't like you
S: why would i care if anyone dont' like me or like me or not

Living room
K: now age comes into it again, where's the threat in that i said do that but don't do it to me, she said don't threaten me, get off my bed get off my bed...she was doing it on purpose
D: well done craig, he's doing very good
K: it's all staged she's doing it on purpose
D: yes of course it is, i'm not gonna be part of anybody's props
K: you know what i'm just gonna stay away from her that's the easiest thing i can do at the moment, just stay away and not be involved with her cos she does more harm than good


C: he's an arsehole, he never should have been this rude, should never have come in the dr
D; he loves fighting cos he gets attention, he loves it
C: you know why he doesn't like arguing with me cos more than everyone in this house i have the ability to shout louder than him
D: it's his way of getting attention that's why he has a loud voice
A: he talks a load of bollocks like that task he tried to set out for us
C: he wanted us not to speak to each other and talk to other people all day
D: what task
C: he made up a scenario you can't talk to that person but you can talk to another, he wanted us not to speak to each other all day
A: i dont' think he wants that cos he knows that's impossible
C: derek doesn't he wanna try and cause a rift against me and ant, he is homophobic, he is sexist..............sound di

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Now ant going on about how he stopped over max.
A: if this is based on how nice a person you are he should be out cos he's not a nice person, he thinks he's constantly right aswell..he's went on how lack of food the bloke eats he's ate the most in this house, and he seems surprised over it, if i'm wrong fair enough if i'm proven wrong, big portions constantly rustling stuff up, he's trading beer with biscuits he's made with our ingredients
D: this is the thing about the cigarettes kemal, our ingredients and you gave him cigs
C: derek he's been caught going thru my drawers, orla said tonite and she wouldn't lie about it, she said he has been going thru your drawers looking for stuff, those cigs from max have gone and he's took them, he wanted to implicate you
D: somebody else had said it i might believe it but i'm not so sure
K: did you ever allow him to go thru your drawer to get a cig though
C: i said he could and that was today..he's been going thru people's drawers taking stuff, he is the theif he is the culprit, it's him
D: i thought it odd he knew about cigars, when i was depleted about all my hamlet cigars i thought i haven't smoked all these cigars
C: he revealed his agenda when ant said go and get cigs and he went and got one, how did he know where they were

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C; i told him one to go get a cigarette on my bed, so he was rooting thru my drawers
D: i don't know what he's done to other people but i do know he stole my cigs obviously he needed it more than i
K: my packets have gone missing, he took the marl lights
C: he had a drink shown his true colors, not mr nice guy
K: again
C: anthony when he says something don't acknowledge him cos he's an idiot
D: the last timehe drank and lost control was when he stayed and maxwell went and that's when he stole the cigar and i thought tonight is a bit like that, just a bit too much to drink and he obviously can't take it
C: he's had two beers (incredulous lol)

Ant said something derek thought was funny but they dipped it.

C: have i made myself look bad tonite
everyone: nooo nooo nooo
D: you're a lovely lovely lovely person
C: i think i brought up points between me and him that were merited


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More stuff was said after this, but I got sick of typing.

I dunno - the C4 site, insofar as they say anything about the incident, make Craig out to be the aggressor, and Science the victim - and reasonable.

Maybe the video editor will go the other way, but it's hard to see how.

I hope they show Derek's feeble attempts to emulate the "divide and rule" strategy espoused by Machiavelli - his version is bitch and moan to someone whilst saying "trust in me" - and when the other person lets down his guard and confides something in Derek, Derek then uses that as ammunition to snipe at them to someone else. Of course, however, Channel4/Endemol won't do anything to show Lord Derek Laud, Master of hounds, and rightful Master of the Universe, their invited guest whom they were lucky to persuade to take part in this 11weeks of self-promotion, in a negative light.

and if you see any errors please point them out...about 95% of the time i was typing one thing while i was listening to the next sentence and at points i'd have to use ellipses to catch up. I may have missed important bits or made errors.

From what I seen the highlights show tends to have the same party line as the website, so I do have hopes with won't be a hatchet job on Science.

I didn't think we'd heard much about Anthony's sexual tension just recently, aside from one reference during his BB 'date'.