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Jenni Trent Hughes - Desperate and Confused (no insults please)
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kimindex
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by stray:
“I like Orlaith. Ididn't to start with, but she's grown on me. I liked the stand with the loft 3 about everybody being in the house for themselves - which she then had to defend in the face of Makosi's Hand of God speech. Orlaith didn't back down. Good for her.

She's honest, direct and straight talking, and while she can bitchalong with the rest of them, there's a bit more sincerity to hers than the rest.

She really has been ostracised very unfairly.”

I agree with you.
SteveW2
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by bettycat:
“Anthony won a 'date' with BB, the highlight of my bb weekend was the evil looks Craig kept giving to the Diary Room door!”

yes more should have been made of craig look of jealousy, "My Ant's enjoying himself with someone else !"
rhett butler
18-07-2005
Thank you Jingle! Just out of curiosity: are there any Kemal fans left out there? I remain steadfast...
stray
18-07-2005
not me. I was a Kemal fan (and also was a Makosi fan) but Kemal seems to have grown into his monstrous side since his parents spoke of their love and support for him - I don't know what's happened there, but I'm wondering if he is subconsciously testing them out to see if they REALLY mean it. He's certainly most unloveable at the minute.
stray
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by kimindex:
“I agree with you. ”

I'm glad there's two of us....but I really do feel she needs a fan club to put her case forward. Poor Orlaith. Think she needs rentacrowd behind her - some sort of last stand!
yellowlabbie
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by kimindex:
“I agree with you. ”

I agree with you too.
lulu g
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by apollox:
“That's almost right. His third idea is to blatently lie (e.g. telling Anthony that he hadn't being telling people that Anthony is gay and denying that Science had ever called him the "Dark Deceiver" to his face).”

Hence the name 'The Dark Deceiver'.
Mrs Harman
18-07-2005
Hi Jenni,

1. Vanessa's eviction, whilst i did not like her made very uncomfortable viewing. She sobbed whilst everyone chose her, cried on exiting the house, somebody in the crowd, threw something at her, and generally she looked petrified. Many people have said TV Gold, I thought it was awful. Try and catch a repeat.

2. Kemal is losing it and becoming increasingly more paranoid about Makosi being a mole. He is convinced that is the case, and is trying to convince Derek of the same. Derek is humouring him. Makosi won't deny it and yet is angry and impatient with him. Craig commented that they will all need therapy he may well be right

3. Last night (which don't fear you havent missed) Kemal, Makosi and Derek confronted Orliath about being 2 faced, when in fact Orlaith gave a rousing speech AGAINST being two faced when Kemal walked in just as Makosi and Vanessa had slagged him off. Makosi slagged Orlaith to Kemal and Kemal to Orlaith. Derek teamed up with Anthony and Craig to bitch about Makosi and Science, Craig lost it with Science. This will all be on tonights highlights. (Hopefully edited well for Science)

As everybody is seemingly spontaneously combusting and effectively losing their chance to win, Anthony the wooden sexually confused "ladies man" is now odds on to win as the most 'normal' person in there.

I went for 3 paragraphs hope you don't mind

Hope you had a nice time in Dublin
Cornchips
18-07-2005
JTH - I see you have had loads of replies and may not get this far, but my take on the weekend is thus.

Mekosi was very angry on Friday night to be in the bottom two, and has been in a bit of a funk about it all weekend. She has been desperately trying to cast around for new allies, but at the same time desperately telling tales on people to anyone who will listen. Some people have called certain people on certain things, and they have denied saying any of what Mekosi has said they have said. For some reason though, only Craig seems to have realised the game Mekosi is playing.

Last night she had a massive row with Kemal, cos he said to her "whatever you are doing to other people in this house then please do not do it to me as I will be really hurt". I think he was referring to her "mole" activities (which of course are all in his head, but she had done nothing to dispell these thoughts.).. Mekosi took offence at this (but I think it was the excuse she was looking for after Friday) and threw him out of her bed. When I went to bad last night they were not speaking.

With regards to Science, I was a fan of Science, but he has seriously disappointed me this weekend. I really thought he was starting to learn something about himself with regards to calming down and listening to others. There was a bit of a do yesterday over - yes you have guessed it - food, and Science, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation went off on one totally with a number of HMs. And of course in his veiw he was in the right, not giving anyone a chance to get a word in edgeways. I don't know who was right and who was wrong (they are all as bad as each other in my view), but he as good as said to Ant and Criag last night that he will eat what he wants, when he wants, as he needs to eat in order to keep his strength up - he didn't seem to wand to understand that there isn't enough food to go around to do that. He also as good as said that whoever goes up against him on Friday, he will win (which he is probably right - but a tad on the arrogant side I thought). Therefore as always with Science its not what he has to say, but the way he speaks to people and basically just rants. I for one do not think this is acceptabel in any situation - and in effect Saskia was voted out for her outburst to Mekosi, why therefore is Science any different. So although I still basically like Science, I am very disappointed in him at the moment.

As for Orla she was feeling particularly down on Saturday, and not only did Science rant at her, but when she left the room to get away from him, he followed her to have a further rant, despite her best efforts to stop him. I still don't like Orla though.

that just about sums the weekend up for me.
Alli-F
18-07-2005
Cornchips, you are an oasis of sanity in a desert!
Science, who I do think 95% of the time is a decent guy would make Mother theresa swear.
The highlight of my weekend was Anthony in the diary room on a date with BB, I thought it was so funny, but after weeks of bitching I am getting to the hysterical stage where if Eugene told a joke about an airconditioner unit, I would find it funny.
lewolf
18-07-2005
Makosi has been her usual inconsistent (but watchable) self.

Kemal has become deranged with the 'Makosi is a mole' theory.

Bithcing has continued as usual and Science has continued his usual rants.

Kemal reached fever pitch over Makosi and Orla (seems he's agrieved that Orla has come between him and Makosi). If he had a brain he'd realise that his fragile ego and attention seeking came between them a long time ago.

As for the others - well its a game of deceit the Borgias would be proud of.

My take - Kemal need to get a life, he's just an attention seeking boy and Makosi is an entertaining liar!

Oh I forgot, Anthony has just been boring but doesn't deserve the Borgia analogy - yet?
feelsolucky
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by JenniTH:
“So. For any of you that I regularly communicate with could you please tell me (in 3 sentences) what were the most interesting/scary/amusing/entertaining/disappointing bits in your BB weekend.Thanking you in advance for helping out a fellow obsessive.
”

My BB weekend in 3 sentences:

1. Most entertaining - eviction on Friday night.
2. Most disappointing - reading latest Harry Potter book (therefore missing all the action as quoted above).
3. Most amusing - going through this thread, especially Jingle Jangles take on events!
WhyBother6
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“With regards to Science, I was a fan of Science, but he has seriously disappointed me this weekend. I really thought he was starting to learn something about himself with regards to calming down and listening to others. There was a bit of a do yesterday over - yes you have guessed it - food, and Science, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation went off on one totally with a number of HMs. And of course in his veiw he was in the right, not giving anyone a chance to get a word in edgeways. I don't know who was right and who was wrong (they are all as bad as each other in my view), but he as good as said to Ant and Criag last night that he will eat what he wants, when he wants, as he needs to eat in order to keep his strength up - he didn't seem to wand to understand that there isn't enough food to go around to do that. He also as good as said that whoever goes up against him on Friday, he will win (which he is probably right - but a tad on the arrogant side I thought). Therefore as always with Science its not what he has to say, but the way he speaks to people and basically just rants. I for one do not think this is acceptabel in any situation - and in effect Saskia was voted out for her outburst to Mekosi, why therefore is Science any different. So although I still basically like Science, I am very disappointed in him at the moment.”


What a strange description of what happened Yes there was "a bit of a do" about food EARLIER in the evening (around 8ish)but that's NOT the row everybody has been going on about.The row people are referring to happened later on(after midnight) and yes the food came into it again,but it started because the boys were all sitting there slagging off Science and planning how they were going to confront and expose him and he came in the room to talk to Derek about what Makosi had just been telling him.(Yes he wasn't exactly quietly spoken when he came )Anyway he ended up arguing with Anthony as the rest walked out(and yes the food argument was brought up)but while they were arguing in the other room the others were still bitching about Science and that's when Craig decided they should "all attack him" when he came in(Craig's words) and Derek said NO lets all get up and ignore him and walk off..which is what they ended up doing.

Science genuinely couldn't understand why Anthony was now sitting with Derek et al after what he'd said about not sitting with them before and then Craig decided he would join in and start another argument with Science that seemed to be based on the fact that Craig thinks Science is trying to split him and Anthony up It all ended up with Science on his own in one room and all the other blokes in another room slagging Science off and deciding that he was..a thief,a liar,a savage,racist,homophobic etc etc. How you can refer to that as a bit of "a do" and then Science going off at everyone I do not know.

I'm not easily shocked but I was sickened at the "mob mentality" I was witnessing from the others towards Science.Everybody knows that Science can be mouthy and loud but I found their behaviour towards him far worse.
thms
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by WhyBother6:
“What a strange description of what happened Yes there was "a bit of a do" about food EARLIER in the evening (around 8ish)but that's NOT the row everybody has been going on about.The row people are referring to happened later on(after midnight) and yes the food came into it again,but it started because the boys were all sitting there slagging off Science and planning how they were going to confront and expose him and he came in the room to talk to Derek about what Makosi had just been telling him.(Yes he wasn't exactly quietly spoken when he came )Anyway he ended up arguing with Anthony as the rest walked out(and yes the food argument was brought up)but while they were arguing in the other room the others were still bitching about Science and that's when Craig decided they should "all attack him" when he came in(Craig's words) and Derek said NO lets all get up and ignore him and walk off..which is what they ended up doing.

Science genuinely couldn't understand why Anthony was now sitting with Derek et al after what he'd said about not sitting with them before and then Craig decided he would join in and start another argument with Science that seemed to be based on the fact that Craig thinks Science is trying to split him and Anthony up It all ended up with Science on his own in one room and all the other blokes in another room slagging Science off and deciding that he was..a thief,a liar,a savage,racist,homophobic etc etc. How you can refer to that as a bit of "a do" and then Science going off at everyone I do not know.

I'm not easily shocked but I was sickened at the "mob mentality" I was witnessing from the others towards Science.Everybody knows that Science can be mouthy and loud but I found their behaviour towards him far worse.”


very good summary of what i watched last night..
team smug, craig and anthony need to be split up
ishychick
18-07-2005
:: warning off topic ::

hi jenni

love your work
Melanie20
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by thms:
“very good summary of what i watched last night..
team smug, craig and anthony need to be split up”


Me too. I think there is a good deal of jealousy in the house directed at Science and it is all BB fault!

BB should not let hms hear how they are being perceived in the outside world. On Friday the hms all heard cheers for Science and starting with Orlaith who was booed mercilessly they have been on a concerted campaign to get him out of the house. What Science should try to avoid is always taking the bait.

Even Eugene! He has told the hms not to put anything Science likes on the shopping list and he has also told the housemates that they have until Friday to wind Science up.
spider5
18-07-2005
Didn't see the food arguement, but Science has been damned obnoxious in the bits i have seen ranting like a man possessed for no apparent reason and being completely over the top and aggressive and abusive particularly towards orlaith. As I haven't seen a lot I dont know if there was something earlier to provoke the rant, but to be honest I sure as hell wouldn't let anyone talk to me the way he did to her.
Makosi attention seeking all through the eviction process, claiming trust me I will go, then running up the stairs bedise Vanessa when it was Vanessas moment to be alone and compose herself before going out.
Ants date with BB was one of the funniest moments of the series, and I'm still liking Craig
4Q Max
18-07-2005
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babycakes
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by WhyBother6:
“What a strange description of what happened Yes there was "a bit of a do" about food EARLIER in the evening (around 8ish)but that's NOT the row everybody has been going on about.The row people are referring to happened later on(after midnight) and yes the food came into it again,but it started because the boys were all sitting there slagging off Science and planning how they were going to confront and expose him and he came in the room to talk to Derek about what Makosi had just been telling him.(Yes he wasn't exactly quietly spoken when he came )Anyway he ended up arguing with Anthony as the rest walked out(and yes the food argument was brought up)but while they were arguing in the other room the others were still bitching about Science and that's when Craig decided they should "all attack him" when he came in(Craig's words) and Derek said NO lets all get up and ignore him and walk off..which is what they ended up doing.

Science genuinely couldn't understand why Anthony was now sitting with Derek et al after what he'd said about not sitting with them before and then Craig decided he would join in and start another argument with Science that seemed to be based on the fact that Craig thinks Science is trying to split him and Anthony up It all ended up with Science on his own in one room and all the other blokes in another room slagging Science off and deciding that he was..a thief,a liar,a savage,racist,homophobic etc etc. How you can refer to that as a bit of "a do" and then Science going off at everyone I do not know.

I'm not easily shocked but I was sickened at the "mob mentality" I was witnessing from the others towards Science.Everybody knows that Science can be mouthy and loud but I found their behaviour towards him far worse.”

Your slant on it is closer to my understanding of how/what happened (and I honestly dont have a favourite so this isn't a pro anyone post), but so much righteous indignation, rude insults and total BS was flying around from ALL the parties concerned, as I said before, none of them came out of this smelling of roses.

The proof of the pudding (cough cough) will be in the edits of the highlights and which way the Producers choose to present this to the non live feed viewing public, of which there are many.

On a more oblique note, I'm more than a little saddened that there hasn't been some positive interaction from BB to cull this bitching and bullying nonsense. It hasn't done the show any good and really has got me wondering why I am finding this series must watch TV
WhyBother6
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by spider5:
“Didn't see the food arguement, but Science has been damned obnoxious in the bits i have seen ranting like a man possessed for no apparent reason and being completely over the top and aggressive and abusive particularly towards orlaith. As I haven't seen a lot I dont know if there was something earlier to provoke the rant, but to be honest I sure as hell wouldn't let anyone talk to me the way he did to her.”

But would you let Orlaith talk to you the way she talked to Science in the garden yesterday? Their relationship is very fiery.I know he drives her mad but it reminds me of one of one of those fiery relationships where you either end up fighting or ..er..something else that begins with F
spider5
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by WhyBother6:
“But would you let Orlaith talk to you the way she talked to Science in the garden yesterday? Their relationship is very fiery.I know he drives her mad but it reminds me of one of one of those fiery relationships where you either end up fighting or ..er..something else that begins with F ”

Unfortunately in real life you could get away from Science in rant mode by walking away, in the house there is nowhere to go. Orlaith began by asking him to "shush" a request for a little peace, which simply made him even more agressive and loud, like her in that situation I would have totally lost it. Nobody else could get a word in, every time they tried Science just shouted over them, and his entire point appeared to be nothing more than if i want to shout and annoy everyone I will
tomorrow
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by RenThraysk:
“Eugene made a few silly comments, like they should order alot more pork based products on the next shopping.
Nothing more than that really, from what I saw.”

As well as suggesting that they ensure that they buy products next week that Science will not be able to eat or like ....

As well as commenting "we have until Friday to wind him up"

Eugene is showing a real mean streak
tomorrow
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by thms:
“very good summary of what i watched last night..
team smug, craig and anthony need to be split up”

They seem to be gaining new members in the form of Eugene and Derek ....

But then again, last night was Sunday and it does seem that Derek does the late night rounds which include the LR on a Sunday night

Helped of course by the 2 bottles of Champers that Craig planned to steal (and did steal) for himself and Ant ...

Craig is becoming too self-confident ... way too sure of himself
WhyBother6
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by spider5:
“Unfortunately in real life you could get away from Science in rant mode by walking away, in the house there is nowhere to go. Orlaith began by asking him to "shush" a request for a little peace, which simply made him even more agressive and loud, like her in that situation I would have totally lost it. Nobody else could get a word in, every time they tried Science just shouted over them, and his entire point appeared to be nothing more than if i want to shout and annoy everyone I will”

In all honesty I thought Orlaith was really rude the way she told him to be quiet when all he was doing was trying to cheer everybody up and apparently Anthony had already asked her why she'd come on the show if she wanted to be alone. If I'd been Orlaith I'd have got up and gone somewhere else to be on my own in the first place rather than go somewhere where there are other people around and then expected them to be quiet.

But on the other hand if I'd have been Science I'd have told her where to go and just carried on talking to the others rather than keep arguing and talking "at her" so they were both a little bit at fault.They seem to have made up now anyway..until next time
WhyBother6
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by tomorrow:
“As well as suggesting that they ensure that they buy products next week that Science will not be able to eat or like ....

As well as commenting "we have until Friday to wind him up"

Eugene is showing a real mean streak”

Eugene seems to be desperate to fit in and be accepted by the other men.It's a shame because I realy didn't think he was like that.
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