Aw. Another pro-Science show.

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gertie

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I agree,..there was a lot cut.

If they wanted they could have made Science look much better, and the others much worse.

There were bits that just didn't put certain things into context, and would have been more in Science's favour.

The bit between Anthony and Science that wasn't shown didn't do Ant many favours, and showed Science trying to get Anthony to talk without getting angry.

Anthony was ranting at Science. Science tried to tell Ant to just talk, but Ant was having none of it, and Ant's voice started going into that "ready to have a fight" voice that sometimes comes out when he's had too much beer.

Science was trying to calm it down, but Anthony was dragging old stuff back up from the past. Something which on tonight's highlight show was mentioned when Ant was telling other people not to drag up the past.
Science is obviously going to want to defend himself, but he was trying to talk with Anthony, but Anthony was just throwing petty digs at him,.....and it all came out that Ant holds a lot of resentment to Science simply because Science beat Max in the eviction battle.
Ant was just digging old stuff back up which wasn't in any way constructive, and it was just designed to have a go at Science.

Ant was just winding himself up. All Sceince was trying to do was defend himself....but Ant was getting angry with Science for simply defending himself.

It all came out when Ant had a bit of beer in him.
He has contempt for Science because Science survived, and Max didn't.
Ant said some very hurtful things to Science as he was leaving the room.

The thing that these little pea brains can't get into their thick skulls, is that it was the housemates themselves who put Science up against Max.
It was their own faults for putting Science up against Max.

What gets me more than anything, is that Science is criticised for simply defending himself.
Some times it's others who kick off the situation, yet Science gets the blame for just defending himself.

It was Craig who had a hissy fit over the mince. Science put some mince back, yet Craig was carrying on like Science had killed his dog.
So all housemates steam into Science despite him putting some mince back,...so what the hell is Science supposed to do?
It's all very well saying Science should have been calm when Anthony was talking to him...but Anthony was saying things that were just simply wrong, and untrue.

Craig has been making pasta meals for Ant in the early hours every single night, yet they blame Science for food shortage.

They didn't show some of the housemates helping themselves to some big sandwiches later on when Science wasn't there.......which leads me to believe that this supposed food shortage wasn't as bad as was made out.
So there was supposed to be food rationing, but they can eat what they want when Science isn't there?

Why should it be only Science who has to follow this food rationing rule, while the others can eat whatever they want, when they want?

They also decided not to show Science walking in on a load of housemates assassinating his character....again...what is Science supposed to do?

Science has been pretty quiet on the arguing front for quite a while, then the day before noms, all the housemates are pointing fingers at him.

How dare Science speak out against them when they are lining him up to be nominated for eviction....how rude of him, he should know his place and keep his mouth shut.

I think yesterday was a situation where Science was justified in defending himself.
He was getting a lot of grief from all angles for no real reason.”

Why waste all that time typing a post that is absolute nonsense

Slippi

19-07-2005

i thought it was great when craig said 'someone else should be there insteead of you(maxwell)'

and science retorts 'well...im sorry to burst your bubble'

haha.

ramiz

19-07-2005

I watched the live feed and the edit.... I don't think science came over well at all.

Craig was made to look bad though.

I don't think anyone came across a winner.....except the BB editing room. Well done....here's to a Bafta!

Melanie20

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by Slippi:
“i thought it was great when craig said 'someone else should be there insteead of you(maxwell)'

and science retorts 'well...im sorry to burst your bubble'

haha.”

I thought that remark from Craig was very telling also Anthony said something along the same lines which really shows that they think they have more of a right to be in the house than Science does-who do they think they are?

ramiz

19-07-2005

It's nothing 'bout rights Melanie20, it's that they dislike Science and wish their friend(Maxwell) was there instead.

God forbid Maxwell was there instead of Science, however, since that particular eviction night, Science has got louder and ruder.

Maybe he thinks he's invincible?

It was a powerful statement from the public though.

MissyAnn

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by Georgiecats:
“What? I must be watching a different show.

He came across as an ignorant, loud-mouthed, aggressive idiot, who refused to let anyone else speak. All started by him being greedy with food that is already rationed.

He will definitely be up for eviction and he should go.
”

You are joking, Craig's scary impression of bunny boiler totally stole the show, and exposed his vicious nasty persona. Anthony cant breathe without that pyscho guarding their ever so close friendship like a guard dog. That was his real beef against Science and that he thought he was trying to take Ant away from him, which was fuel by the other snake in the grass 'Derek' telling him lies that Science wants to replace Maxwell, as if! Science has more indiviuality than that sub moron Craig. No your wrong, Craig made himself look the an A***, and Science came across more favourable. Science to win.

Ballyhooly

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by sleepwalker:
“*rolls eyes*

I can't believe they're pushing this egoistic moron to win.”

It was edited so that those who don't see the live feed have pity for Orlaith. I suspect that she is up for eviction this week, and her backstabbing was all cut out.

Ballyhooly

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by MissyAnn:
“You are joking, Craig's scary impression of bunny boiler totally stole the show, and exposed his vicious nasty persona. Anthony cant breathe without that pyscho guarding their ever so close friendship like a guard dog. That was his real beef against Science and that he thought he was trying to take Ant away from him, which was fuel by the other snake in the grass 'Derek' telling him lies that Science wants to replace Maxwell, as if! Science has more indiviuality than that sub moron Craig. No your wrong, Criag made himself look the an A***, and Science came across more favourable. Science to win.”

ROFL! Craig certainly is a bunny boiler. They conveniently forgot to show Craig's tantrum because Science and Anthony were playing tennis!!

Ballyhooly

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by gertie:
“Deserves to win!!!!!! He's a loud mouth lout and needs to be bought down a peg or two, to make him realise that his behaviour will not be tolerated in the outside world.

The last thing he needs is to be rewarded for his behaviour ”

And whose behaviour IS worthy of a reward?

Melanie20

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by ramiz:
“It's nothing 'bout rights Melanie20, it's that they dislike Science and wish their friend(Maxwell) was there instead.

God forbid Maxwell was there instead of Science, however, since that particular eviction night, Science has got louder and ruder.

Maybe he thinks he's invincible?

It was a powerful statement from the public though. ”

Just to say, I didn't think the show was 'pro Science' at all.

I thought it was very pro Craig as it cut out all of his three rants against Science because:

A) Science was trying to split he and Anthony up
B) Science was still in the house instead of Maxwell

MissyAnn

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by Melanie20:
“Just to say, I didn't think the show was 'pro Science' at all.

I thought it was very pro Craig as it cut out all of his three rants against Science because:

A) Science was trying to split he and Anthony up
B) Science was still in the house instead of Maxwell”

Thank God for live feed, and that BB viewers would have seen the Bunny Boiler 'Craig' in action. Glenn Close has nothing on that psycho!

Melanie20

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by MissyAnn:
“Thank God for live feed, and that BB viewers would have seen the Bunny Boiler 'Craig' in action. Glen Close had nothing on that psycho! ”

Exactly! That is what I am basing my opinions on! I saw Craig on the live feed and he made Science look like the Ark Angel Gabriel in comparison.

yorkbart

19-07-2005

I guess - at the end of the day - they have to make an entertaining 50 minute TV show when they sit down to edit the highlights. Not necessarily fair, not necessarily biased, just entertaining.

If 3+ hours of Science's ranting was cut, it was probably done because to have a highlights show filled with that would not be entertaining, people would switch off, and ratings would be down.

I watched the highlights (not live feed), and I still came away thinking Science was ranting a lot, and getting a headache from it. They have to tell other stories too, whcih they did, and I'm sure that was the primary reason for any cuts.

As it was I think Science and Craig both came out poorly, but the show worked to also show what's going on with Makosi and Kemal and Derek and their mutual manipulations. I would guess that one from each camp is nominated this week, probably Science and Makosi, and that is why they need to show a balance of what is happening to/for both.

gertie

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by Ballyhooly:
“And whose behaviour IS worthy of a reward?”

Any person science has wound up over the past 7 weeks deserves a reward for not giving him a good slapping

MissyAnn

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by gertie:
“Any person science has wound up over the past 7 weeks deserves a reward for not giving him a good slapping ”

Well dont for get Kemal and Derek in that reward

WhyBother6

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by duncann:
“I read the forums this afternoon. I don't watch the live feed. The Science fans on here were concerned he had blown his chances last night and were critical of him. But tonight I couldn't see why they thought that and the same people are now saying the editing fairly showed what happened. I have absolutely no idea why Craig, sitting with the others chatting, suddenly went beserk at Science. I couldn't follow it. I get the impression a lot was cut out.”

HUh?? The majority of posts were from people sickened by how they were ganging up Science.The worry was that Endemol may edit it against him even though he was the one being ganged up on

.Thankfully they weren't too bad with the editing.They cut alot of the argument with Anthony out but they also cut out Craig's particularly nasty comments about getting everybody to attack Science and also all the bitching and unfounded accusations about Science being homophobic,racist,a savage etc etc.

acushna

19-07-2005

Originally Posted by brightlights:
“with comma splice (incorrect):

I wouldn't normally bother, however, you deemed it necessary to correct another DS member's post in this vein.

with semicolon (correct usage):

I wouldn't normally bother; however, you deemed it necessary to correct another DS member's post in this vein.

Google comma splice and you'll find thousands of better explanations. But basically you can't use a comma to join two full sentences into one. Speaking as a semicolon fan I would have to say it bugs me.

I wouldn't have said anything all the same, but you were asking for it!”

I still disagree, finding nothing incorrect about the above. I am referring it to more learned authorities, but I think you're wrong.

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