Either it wasnt show on the livefeed, or I somehow missed it.

I think it was Makosi and Kemal's way of re-affirming their relationship... nas as Science was there, he was drawn in by Makosi.

Although... Makosi seemed to be, by far the most excited about it all...

Shame really, considering all Orlaith genuinely wants is a female led coalition of... females

Regards

Heh, I just got accused of the opposite, just because didn't put Science's name in the thread topic

Can't win.

Seems to be one of those 'Science can do no wrong' posts and then have a dig at the FM who started the thread

Next thread will start 'I am more of a science fan than you are'

Arguing? Who is arguing? I'm contending your
point of view. Sorry if you seek free license to
print your own money. But to expose your view,
is to have peered over and subjected to intense
levels of scrutiny, and if we find it lacking and
flawed, we will tell you. Nothing to do with 'favs',
just a courtesy service we run indiscriminately. It
helps in refining perspective and uncovering the 'truth'

You gave false information, hence you did not report what had happened. Dare I say you lied.

If you are a Science fan then why do this? He was in the room and hardly said anything, but you go and accuss him of 'ganging up' on Orlaith.

if you saw the original incident, then you know that makosi/kemal/lesley and co did it to sam "to f*** her over and make her cry", as if that is their level of entertainment
and when that did happen, they still lay there and did nothing

sam needed her bag because it had medical stuff inside
if orla's bag has her contact lenses in it, then she will freak
she already did so in the secret garden when she couldn't change her lenses then

Hiya Ren...

Science does deserve to win at the moment IMHO... but my post was about Orlaith... not Science.

How can I criticise Derek for "going for" isolated HMs... when I don't do the same when other HMs do it?

...although in their defense they are yet to action their plan.

Regards

Johnson, You don't know SWW do you?....lol.

If you want blind loyalty from a supporter you can forget it from him, but you will get unbiased truth. If I was a housemate I'd want him on my side I can tell you.

I for one would be livid if anyone so much as went in my drawers without permission.I'm not surprised Makosi is calling the shots here!

uh oh..............

So you are saying that Science did not agree to allow Orlaith's bag to be hidden near his bed?

And please bear in mind, I was posting about four HMs... and it is Science's "fans" that are trying to make it an issue about Science.

For all I know Science may renege on the plan... my issue is that Orlaith is isolated so they "gang" up on her...

I hate it when Derek does it to Science... so I comment when other HMs do it... I try my best to react to actions / words spoken , and not HMs... and as I said earlier, in Science's defense, even Kemal and Makosi were worried that he would not play ball.

Regards

How do we get threads merged on here btw?

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...d.php?t=252993

Makosi said she would hide her own too and it will look like they have both been stolen. It is only a joke. No harm in it. I like Makosi too.

Look fellow Science fans (and you SWW LOL),

I know SWW is a Science fan (maybe), but this thread he/she started is not the truth. Hence, it makes me wonder why a Science fan would do that.

I do not believe I am being unreasonable, yes I have read SWW posts and yes the majority are pro-Science, so why try to taint him with false accusations?

Orla is close ... it's her impending beatification that has given the faux divas Makosi & Camel the hump (pun intended) and made them come over all Lesleh (not a nice image) as a result.

Ooh 'eck, sorry Ren.

I have no doubt the efficient DS Mods will merge it...

I have been impressed with your objectivity BTW... not that my views count for anything... but I have this ongoing issue about slavish devotion / hate for HMs...

I know I need to get out more...

*looks at callouses on finger tips )*

Regards

I dislike Orlaith and Kemal and only had some grudging admiration for Makosi until the pregnancy thing but this is a sick joke. Orlaith already feels like an outsider and yes its only a make-up bag (personally I would want to string up anyone who stole mine!), but stuck in a house with few personal possesions its going a bit far I think.

Yeah, thought some wires got crossed somewhere.

Thanks for the compliment.

Yeah, the blind worship, and blind hatred is annoying.

How is it not the truth?

Was Science in the room and did he agree to having Orlaiths make up bag hidden by his bed?

I don't understand what you are objecting to.

Angie

Science *is* involved. He witnessed the conversation, and when told by Makosi, that he musn't say anything to Orlaith, he said he would not say anything!
That's involved!

He did not agree to anything. In fact he actually walked out the room, because I think he felt uncomfortable about the situation.

He went into the garden and he is still in the garden LOL.

OK... let me explain myself...

Science agreed to allow Makosi to hide the bag near his bed.

If Science does wrong or is complicit in an act I disagree with... I will announce it loud and clear in the thread title...

Hence when a Science "hater" spins out cr@p, to me and says... that when Sci did this or did that... I can truthfully say... NO, I did make a comment about it...

I hate the way Derek "targets" beaten supposedly HMs, and feel that as I continously go on about it... I must judge all HMs equally... and indeed always have.

I agree there are a lot of "never have been" fans that do the old... "I am a Science fan but..." malarkey.

If you think I am such... then fair enough. I don't think I am... I want my posts to be continous and not duplicitous... I want my thoughts to be linear... all rules apply to all HMs... I still believe that Jason deserved to win over Nadia...

I still belive thet Science deserves to win.

And have you read the replies... Sam and Orlaith fans... no Science detractors!

I know that I have some times a seemingly brash way of posting, I can't hide the fact that I am an Uber-BB- Nerd and am member of various Fora...

I know I like Science enough to get a lifetime ban for defending him on the C4 site.

I take awhile to get used to...

Regards

But nothing has happened yet. It is speculative
at best; inventive at worst. It is like some sort of
spin on the 'Minority Report'. You condemn before
any action has taken place? Not so much as bringing
the truth to the table, as bringing the sin to the innocent.

I like your insights though, more so if they
could breathe on their own, without any
connection to a lie support machine, but they
do offer a quick guide to obfuscation and
I am sure the truth is within there, somewhere

The major flaw in your posts though is there
inability to follow a timeline, or a biographical
linearity, that would place many of your observations
within a real and transmutative context. Instead, they
hang in the air, with no support from below, or above,
having materialised out of thin air

But I do have more than a shoe full of respect for you

He raised an objection about the hiding the bags near his bed, saying he'd be blamed for it. Until Makosi said she wouldn't let that happen.