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Science - I like then dislike then like then dislike
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kazmartins
19-07-2005
Science is driving me up the wall I like him then he does something stupid and childish and I dislike him - why does he not stop with the defensive argumentative attitude and just relax. He reminds me of a child. I will not be voting for him to win because he is too much of a pain in the arse but I dont hate him either. In fact at this time I do not like anyone to win!!!!
trinity2002
19-07-2005
I feel exactly the same!
wideangle
19-07-2005
The first two weeks he was great,more recently when maxwell left he seemed to really calm for a few days and i started to see a better side of him with anth and craig but it all seems to have gone downhill again in the last few days...he will never get my votes to win.
Slippi
19-07-2005
just make sure he stays until the end!

BB isnt BB without science, he makes the show, and is the only saving grace from all the sly bitchyness.
PositiveThinker
19-07-2005
Stick with me. I loathe him.
moogester
19-07-2005
So do I, he makes me roar with laughter, then 5 minutes later want to scream at the television in anger
Bessie Wink
19-07-2005
That's the nature of Science! If we find ourselves, as viewers, changing our attitude towards him all the time; imagine what it must be like living with him?!
picnic
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by wideangle:
“The first two weeks he was great,more recently when maxwell left he seemed to really calm for a few days and i started to see a better side of him with anth and craig but it all seems to have gone downhill again in the last few days...he will never get my votes to win.”

Don't you think that it has gone downhill because Craig became jealous of Science having a laugh with them, particularly Anthony. Anthony told Craig he thought Science was funny and since then Craig has had the knives out for Science. Hence Craigs desperation to get rid of Science
alexalex
19-07-2005
Having missed a lot of last two days, can anyone work out whether there was a cause for this change in his behaviour, which had, like his friendship with Ant and Craig, been getting and better for a while.

Was it just pre-nomination nerves? Surely something else must have provoked this.
trinity2002
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by picnic:
“Don't you think that it has gone downhill because Craig became jealous of Science having a laugh with them, particularly Anthony. Anthony told Craig he thought Science was funny and since then Craig has had the knives out for Science. Hence Craigs desperation to get rid of Science”


Craigs had incidents with Science before this though!
pony
19-07-2005
He seems to grow in paranoia and ego by the day. I never liked him, but I thought he was effectively harmless. Now he seems to be spoiling for trouble.
homer911
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by alexalex:
“Having missed a lot of last two days, can anyone work out whether there was a cause for this change in his behaviour, which had, like his friendship with Ant and Craig, been getting and better for a while.

Was it just pre-nomination nerves? Surely something else must have provoked this.”


craig was jealous that science was getting to friendly with ant on saturday and sunday happened as a result.
Aerial*
19-07-2005
I feel the housemates are using Science as a scapegoat. He is the only housemate who hasn't bonded with any one group so he's the easy option this week.

They didn't need to discuss nominations but by completely ganging up and alienating him from the group the deed is done. I reckon Makosi is the only one who won't nominate him this week (possibly Orlaith because of the incident with Kemal and Derek)

Science is the only housemate that I would trust with a secret or depend on his loyalty.

The rest are a bunch of manipulating cowards!!!
homer911
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by trinity2002:
“Craigs had incidents with Science before this though!”

yes but it seemed they had sorted things out until he spoke to derek and kemal who said science was trying to be maxwell and move in on anthony and craigs obsession took over.
WhyBother6
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by PositiveThinker:
“Stick with me. I loathe him.”

LOL.I had to laugh at that line coming from somebody called positivethinker
PositiveThinker
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by alexalex:
“Having missed a lot of last two days, can anyone work out whether there was a cause for this change in his behaviour, which had, like his friendship with Ant and Craig, been getting and better for a while.

Was it just pre-nomination nerves? Surely something else must have provoked this.”

Yes, he decided he was above the common rules of decency and used far too much food than he should have. He then believed when people had a go at him that they were targeting him for nominations. Craig correctly pointed out that he was playing the victim... Again.

My guess is that it's a result of surviving against Maxwell and hearing himself get cheered on Friday.

He was quiet for about 2 weeks, when everything was going his way within the house, and he was part of a group that was scheming against the others, and then when he found himself up for eviction, he began to believe this was all the fault of Derek, and started plotting against him with Anthony and Craig, who despite his attempts to be their new leader just got irritated by him, like everyone else in that house has got irritated by him.
picnic
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by homer911:
“craig was jealous that science was getting to friendly with ant on saturday and sunday happened as a result.”

Plus the cheers he got Friday night and the pre-nom bitching by Derek and Orlaith and now Eugene about Science, all been building to the fight Craig instigated about the mince. Calling Science greedy was a bit rich coming from him !
wideangle
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by picnic:
“Don't you think that it has gone downhill because Craig became jealous of Science having a laugh with them, particularly Anthony. Anthony told Craig he thought Science was funny and since then Craig has had the knives out for Science. Hence Craigs desperation to get rid of Science”

Yes you do have a good point but science does let himself down without anyone else's help.
trinity2002
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by homer911:
“yes but it seemed they had sorted things out until he spoke to derek and kemal who said science was trying to be maxwell and move in on anthony and craigs obsession took over.”

I think from what I've seen that Craig just goes with the flow with whoever he's talking to at the time. We saw his vitriol spewed at Max, Ant and Saskia in the first 2 weeks, and not to mention Sam. And then when he jumped ship, the vitriol changed to Vanessa, Makosi, and basically everybody except Max, Ant and Saskia.

I don't put this down to any other HM doing..........he does it himself to let himself be heard!
PositiveThinker
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by Aerial*:
“I feel the housemates are using Science as a scapegoat. He is the only housemate who hasn't bonded with any one group so he's the easy option this week.”

Bullshit. The people being targeted this week were Orlaith, Kemal and Derek. Until he started behaving like he usually does.

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“They didn't need to discuss nominations but by completely ganging up and alienating him from the group the deed is done. ”

THEY DID NOT GANG UP ON HIM

Everyone agreed he was being unreasonable with the food, and then when they tried to say something he started screaming again. It was then he, who later that night went into that room gunning for a fight.

Ugh. I cannot stand the way people see what a nightmare he is to live with, and then think it's the others ganging up on him. I wish they would! I wish they'd nail him to the bloody wall, and gag him!
Ballyhooly
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by PositiveThinker:
“Yes, he decided he was above the common rules of decency and used far too much food than he should have. He then believed when people had a go at him that they were targeting him for nominations. Craig correctly pointed out that he was playing the victim... Again.

My guess is that it's a result of surviving against Maxwell and hearing himself get cheered on Friday.

He was quiet for about 2 weeks, when everything was going his way within the house, and he was part of a group that was scheming against the others, and then when he found himself up for eviction, he began to believe this was all the fault of Derek, and started plotting against him with Anthony and Craig, who despite his attempts to be their new leader just got irritated by him, like everyone else in that house has got irritated by him.”

Craig is ALWAYS eating more than his fair share, and has laughed about how his midnight cooking has caused the others to have no food when they wake up. So his rant about food to Science was an excuse to pick a fight he had been itching to have (in front of an audience), all because Derek has planted the idea in Craig's head that Science and Anthony are getting along a little too well.

Craig is an obsessive, jealous fool.
trinity2002
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by PositiveThinker:
“Yes, he decided he was above the common rules of decency and used far too much food than he should have. He then believed when people had a go at him that they were targeting him for nominations. Craig correctly pointed out that he was playing the victim... Again.

My guess is that it's a result of surviving against Maxwell and hearing himself get cheered on Friday.

He was quiet for about 2 weeks, when everything was going his way within the house, and he was part of a group that was scheming against the others, and then when he found himself up for eviction, he began to believe this was all the fault of Derek, and started plotting against him with Anthony and Craig, who despite his attempts to be their new leader just got irritated by him, like everyone else in that house has got irritated by him.”


I agree more with this synopsis than I do with the ridiculous claims that Derek has brainwashed all the other HM's into not liking him. He has always irritated the majority of HM's, nearly all of them have had a problem with him at one time or another, the only reason it took him so long to be nominated was because the other HM's had bigger fish to fry!
donsy90
19-07-2005
What i dont get about Science is that he says he is being honest, when he tells some HMs what others have been saying about them but why does he never tell them what ME-kosi is saying about them?
He says he is always doing things for others and then today, risks them failing the task.
He eats what he wants, when he wants with no thought for the budget.
He plays the victim all the time.
He never takes anyone elses opinion on board and as far as he is concerned he is always right.
Imo, he loves being the centre of attention just as much as Me-kosi.
PositiveThinker
19-07-2005
Originally Posted by Ballyhooly:
“Craig is ALWAYS eating more than his fair share, and has laughed about how his midnight cooking has caused the others to have no food when they wake up. So his rant about food to Science was an excuse to pick a fight he had been itching to have (in front of an audience), all because Derek has planted the idea in Craig's head that Science and Anthony are getting along a little too well.

Craig is an obsessive, jealous fool. ”


**** Craig... They ALL thought he was being unreasonable. Everyone in that house, apart from Makosi, who has no friends left, is sick of him. Even she said he was a prick.

Even Eugene wants him to start a physical fight just so he doesn't have to put up with him anymore.
pickle
19-07-2005
You're too fickle, you have to go with the rough and the smooth. For me, Science has more qualities and redeeming features than any of the others, he's not perfect but hey, who is.

He needs your support through the good times and the bad times, remember it's not easy in that house.
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