Thanks everyone for the explanations. They need to beam in another message from his Dad to get him to de-stress. I still believe Science is the only one in there - with a couple of possible exceptions - with a good heart. It just gets harder and harder to see it. His willingness to participate in the make-up bag hiding scheme is something the old Science would never have done, and I really feel ashamed for him that he would even countenance it.

I know exactly how you feel. Most of the time I like Science (in fact he is my tip to win). However, one thing that seriously worries me about him is the way he chooses to rant at people, and the way he thinks he is always right, and just shouts and shouts and shouts over the top of people. He cannot be reasonable, cannot have a reasonable debate, and never ever considers anyone’s point of view.

However, when he is not doing the above, he is kind, thoughtful, funny, generous and caring. When he is being like this I really like him.

The only thing that would worry me about him winning is that if he is allowed to win, then we are sending a message to him (and every other angry person out there) that its OK to communicate issues in the way he does, and this does him no favours whatsoever. Therefore despite me having a decent sized bet on him to win at 10/1 (from the 1st weekend I might add), I think that although I would prefer him to be in to the end, I don’t think I want him to win.

Problem is though, I don’t really think I want any of them to win, although I must admit I am warming to Anthony, in that he, in my opinion, is the one who has conducted himself best in the house. That could all change though by tomorrow.

I do agree with you, I do think Craig picks fights and arguments to make himself look good with other HM's, especially when he's got other HM's behind him.

But this does not mean that Science was without blame on Sunday night!

Me too, I don't like him very much at the moment.

What else would you call a gang of people all plotting together to take the same action towards an individual.Craig wanted them all to attack him,Derek decided it would be better to all make it clear they were ignoring him and walk out of the room when he came in.Even before Science walked in they were all planning how they were going to confront him and expose him,all together.

Last night I felt for Science, but now he's sitting on the lawn deliberately winding people up and being generally obnoxious. Kemal is being quite amusing, he's calmly repeating Shhh to Science, as a mother would when pacifying a baby.

It's not nice too see people 'gang up' on him, but I can't help think he brings lot of it on himself, they can only take so much.

Well if ever a forum name didn't suit a poster

I'm entitled to my opinion and I feel yes that they did gang up on him.

I never said it was right of Science to take more than his fair share but it is a bit hypocrital for the likes of Craig to challenge him after he changed the shopping list to get beers for himself.

Science also returned some of his portion when they questioned him and after admittedly going off on one in the LR he tried to make things right by sitting down and having a conversation with Ant and Craig but Craig was having none of it.

And Craig telling Derek that Science called him the Dark Destroyer - am I imagining a conversation last week with Craig, Ant and Science when Craig was more than happy to back Science up on this?

PS for future reference if you have a different opinion than another FM, please refrain from screaming "Bulls*it". Would it be so hard to say in a mannerly fashion that you have a differing opinion?

Craig went too far, but if you listen to Science he rarely has anything nice to say and can be incredibly irritating. The other night they had taken as much of Science as they could handle and were reacting to the situation, it just so happened that he had p***ed most of the house off so it looked like they were ganging up.

In any other BB, apart from maybe the last one, Science would be one of the first to go. If he was among normal people with honour and respect he would look like a freak. But among this lot he looks like a saint.

Yes, he rants and yes, he's totally unable to compromise, but he also took a huge battering on Sunday night - hours of abuse from the likes of Craig spurred on by Derek - and just shrugged it off. He has no friends and no allies and yet he's still the strongest in there mentally. I think he's bloody remarkable to be honest.

Science is playing the role of a dog. Sometimes dogs are naughty.

I am blaming the rest of the houesmates for not having humour in doing the task.

Just like the Ostrich Egg task, most of the hms just sat around and felt bored.

It was only Science and to a lesser extent Makosi who really acted up to be the chicken taking care of the egg.

I think what's remarkable is that he hasn't been physically attacked yet.

But he has caused them a fail, how is that thinking of others, as Science says he does?

he was just joking around, he's working with someone who bitches about him 24/7, it's an awkward situation, it doesen't mean he's right, but he's not being too ridiculous.

How can you want science to go!?

what exactly do you want to watch?

craigs smug face once science is evicted...unbearable...

It looked like they were.. because they were.You even said so in your last post I'm not saying I can't understand how Science winds some of them up but I still think there actions were far worse than anything he does.Derek seems to be the one stirring things up and planting ideas in people's heads.Craig is convinced Science is trying to spilt him and Anthony up thanks to Derek and I think that was the REAL reason Craig kicked off originally.The mince was just a convenient excuse.

They were not ganging up on him. They're just sick of him. Like a society gets sick of any obnoxious, loudmouthed yobs "terrorizing" them, they have got sick of Science.

I agree. No other housemate could have taken it like he did.Can you imagine the others' responses if they had so many people ganging up on them.

Any reasonable housemate wouldn't have behaved like he has for 8 weeks. The guy is a prick.

I feel just the same as so many on here.It is like having a child. I know for a fact he would drive me up the wall to live with and i hate to say i would probably have lost it like Craig did. But he makes excellent viewing. So the sadist in me thinks he must remain. Not sure I want him to win though.

Being sick of somebody is a feeling not an action.Being sick of him may well have been the reason they took the action of gangin up on him

He took the action of going into that room to disrupt them. He suceeded. He, after leaving, took the action of going back, with the plan to "terrorize them".

Sounds like the behaviour of, erm, well, a "chav" actually.

Like now he is behaving like an idiot and spoiling the task - why does he always have to be the difficult/worst one why can he not be the good dog why the bad dog, he like he craves bad attention. If I was there I think I would just ignore him and walk away when he spoke to me he does not seems to recognise other peoples feelings and space. Then other times he is nice and caring !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cos he's a rebel, yer get me?

Until the people with power (Big Brother) tell him to do something.

You assume that because you don't like Science, that everything any other housemate says or does is perfectly valid.

It isn't.

And as for Eugene, he is a self confessed hypocrite. He is Derek's mini-me.

Makes me laugh when people go on about "he must be a nightmare to live with".

I don't doubt his loudness would be annoying, but what is worse - living with a loud person who loses his rag here and there, or living with attention seeking backstabbers who will abuse your loyalty as soon as look at you?

Mr "I condone violence" Eugene cannot stand Science, even though Science was one of the few who didn't write him off as a geeky nerd as soon as he walked through the door, yet he likes Derek, the man who slags everyone off to him every morning.

Great morals there, Eugene. Maybe if Derek shouted these insults about people he would be against that, too?

Well said

I have liked Science from day one. Haven't changed my mind yet and don't think I will be doing so.

As for people's changing views on Science day in day out. The same can be said of all of the housemates. After all, how many times have people changed their minds on Craig in particular ?