Rubbish. Despite all his bravado he wants company, and he's brave enough - maybe blockheaded enough - to go back into the lion's den.

Why shouldn't he be in the living room? Why should he skulk away like a scared animal? He's terrorized no one. He hasn't got a bullying bone in his body. He's just contrary, which is a completely different thing.

Science: "I would have boxed his jaw in the real world"

He condones it as well. And has shown moments of it.


Eugene says he gets on well with him individually, but finds his behaviour at others time repulsive. I just wish Sciene fans would admit how disgusting he can be at these times.

People who keep changing their minds back and forth are weak individuals who take everything on face value. They have an inability to see beneath the surface, to see what is really going on.

How they survive in real life I will never know. Maybe when they have grown up a bit and gained some valuable life experience.

Bollocks. He knew exactly what he was doing. There's no bravery it goading people, and he does it all the time.


He screams abuse at anyone with a different opinion. There's never been a more intolerant, bigoted fool on this show. And that's saying something. And "terrorize" was the word he chose to use.

Agreed. I have always supported Science, yet acknowledge his faults. Nobody in the house is an angel. Nobody in the world is an angel.

And with regards to Craig, someone who laughs (last night) about his bullying of Sam is just an a*sehole.

Whatever, he argues or not, he speaks loud or not, he is one genuine person I feel. He is THE one honest housemate along with Eugene. Science stands for himself, he has never bitched behind anyones back, talkd at their faces tho. He has never made alliances and even being so young hasnt been involved in any disrespectful and un-honourable acts like others @ booz-driven antics in pool etc. He could have easily taken davantage then as well. To me he is genuine. He should WIN. I cannot think of any HM other than Sciene and Eugene who are not playing the evil game. Especially I have started to hate Kemal and derek. Especially Kemal who is so jealous with makosi and his obcession with makosi being a mole, he is stuoid and dont realise how stupid he is being seen in outside world. Even after the real mole was discovered in the garden he and derek still belief that they will nail the makosi by telling every1 that she is a mole.

I haven't seen this Ballyhooly, but if this is true, then he is indeed what you say.

That's a sweeping statement to make about people judging individuals on a RTV show.

And what does this valuable life experience afford one then? The ability to blindly suppost someone, even when you know they are in the wrong, simply because age has helped you develops an inner eye that can look inside a HM and know the truth?

Hog wash.

He was laughing while reminiscing about week one antics last night in the living room (everyone had just finished playing Weakest Link), and said that him and Lesley were evil to Sam, and were discussing the things they had done.

A few people were a bit uncomfortable (Orlaith and Eugene left, because obviously, they didn't know what everyone was going on about).... and some of the stuff seemed to be news to Anthony, and Science who said that they weren't aware of all the antics.

It is one thing to bully people, but to proud of it, and to see nothing wrong with reminsicing about it is another thing entirely.

And keep in mind, this is the same Craig who is now sucking up to Orlaith, and said he felt sorry for her when everyone was in the same room to witness Kemal's rant("written" by Derek)... yet Craig had earlier picked a fight in front of an audience.

And tomorrow you will no doubt agree, eh?

Eugene is not as nice as you think. He has dropped a few nasty comments.

Yes. Eugene is being used by Derek, yet he seems happy to have the company (and so he should be)!!

But he is getting bitchier by the day.

Maybe Science doesn't see his behavior as intimidating or bullying but always being on the defense and always shouting over people right in their faces can be very intimidating to the people on the receiving end.

On topic: I love Science

I know this is a Science thread, but as I am replying to your post about Craig also, I am going to go off topic for a moment.

I so dislike Craig, especially after rewatching his audition video. I have done a transcript of it and highlighted one piece in particular. What his audition tape is saying is that he is very good at manipulating people and it seems he is. Here is Craigs audition transcript :

Craigs BB6 Audition tape transcript

Right Big Brother. You've gotta let me fk'in get on this show because I'm fk'in one spoilt little brat, and I fk'in always get my own way one way or a fk'in 'nother.

I've got my own Salon at 19. Im fk'in doing so wellin my hairdressing industry. I need to get my views out, I need to get my fk'in Salons views out there. Sick of these little tw*ts that fk'in they keep putting on that are a little pu**ies, and are frightened to say anything what they think.

I am an opinionated person. I love my attitude. I love having opinions on people. I always have done and I always will do.

I do tend to look down on people, you know, I'll look at someone, what they are weraing and I'll think eh...........

..........Coz they're all sad and pathetic, getting on with their boring little lifes, working their shi**y little jobs, sitting in their stupid little council houses doing absolutely nothing with their lifes.Greatest accomplishment is having kids. Anybody can sit there and have kids.

I am very good at spreading rumours, coz I can make people believe what I want 'em to believe. All you gotta do is literally look at peoples weaknesses and exploit 'em. I love destroying peoples lifes and I get delight at seeing other people unhappy.

Craig is vile, I doubt many would disagree with that, but his audition tape shows exactly the type of people Endemol wanted in the house this year.

Back on topic, Science has been more obnoxious than usual today, he's been trying to wind them up all morning, he's called them idiots, pathetic and a whole bunch of other insults. They are starting to bite back (after tolerating it for hours) and no doubt Science fans will be saying he's being bullied again later when the others refuse to sit with him.

God, is anyone watching the live feed, I can't believe how bad Science has been today, he's loving it now that Derek has finally risen to his bait.

Oh very droll.

I have a love/dislike relationship with most of the HM's, I just get tired of being told that I am not a 'real fan' if I happen to see the faults in a HM that I also like.

Science is a case in point, I like him, I would be happy if he won, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't make me very frustrated at times, that I can see that he is doing himself no favours and that I couldn't live with him.

Underneath he seems to be a genuine bloke, but how do I really know that? All I have to judge is what I see and sometimes I don't like what I see, I am not going to saint him and constantly qualify why he does the things he shouldn't.

At the moment he's my favourite, but that can change, I cannot forgive him for things that I wouldn't forgive other HM's for and if that doesn't suit then so be it.

At least we know Science, after Maxwell left, didn't change for the cameras. He is still the same old Science he was at the start, 100% himself. We found a better side of him later and he could use that again. He dont take no crap from the other HMs and could take them all at once. Im backin Science up until the end, I cant say I like Derek, Eugene, Makosi etc any better than Science.

Science to win!!!!!!