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Derek: "My own kind annoy me most"
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LaVidaLoca
20-07-2005
Originally Posted by grannyzee:
“Now, let me see.

Could he have meant everyone who is

male
and in his 40s
and bald
and black
and gay
and conservative
and a master of the hunt (no this isn't rhyming slang)
and cruel
and pompous
and a nasty bas*ard

I think this is really what he must have meant. :yawn:”


I'd add "human" to that list, even though he's made me doubt that he is one.
antimaxwell
20-07-2005
Originally Posted by hyacinthbee:
“Educate yourself!

Go and google 'Uncle Tom', 'House N*****' and 'black on black racism.'

And then you come back here and tell me that Derek cant be racist towards Science because he is black.

Its like banging your head against a brick wall! ”


It's a social class difference, not racism. He strives to climb the social ladder, while it makes him feel superior to put others down regardless of their race.
RobCole
20-07-2005
Been said before I'm sure but Derek is patently self-loathing. By saying Science was the sort of person who made him hate black people what he's really trying to do is dissociate himself from black people- i.e. "i'm not one of them". No self knowledge at all - because he doesn't want self knowledge. he rather reminds me of that freakishly clever boy who was on Wogan years and years ago cos he was an antiques expert or something then had a sex change...
djbrenton
20-07-2005
I"t's a social class difference, not racism. He strives to climb the social ladder, while it makes him feel superior to put others down regardless of their race."

I agree, I don't think it's racism so much as class difference. What Derek'sproblem is, is that as a black man he doesn't like being considered in the same group as the commonly perceived black cliche. It's much like a gay man who's embarassed by the screaming queen stereotype. He feels that Science lets the ( i.e Dereks ) black image down perhaps.
Having said that, it's not impossible he just doesnt' like other black people, there's a strong dilslike of Africans by Jamaicans for example.
Ambergold
20-07-2005
Ahh derek a man with so many issues a psychiatrist wouldn't touch him with a 10 ft shit*y barge pole.
LaVidaLoca
20-07-2005
Originally Posted by RobCole:
“Been said before I'm sure but Derek is patently self-loathing. By saying Science was the sort of person who made him hate black people what he's really trying to do is dissociate himself from black people- i.e. "i'm not one of them". No self knowledge at all - because he doesn't want self knowledge. he rather reminds me of that freakishly clever boy who was on Wogan years and years ago cos he was an antiques expert or something then had a sex change...”


Exactly what I think too and I have said so on another thread... "Derek: The human stain" I think..
Ambergold
20-07-2005
Originally Posted by djbrenton:
“I"t's a social class difference, not racism. He strives to climb the social ladder, while it makes him feel superior to put others down regardless of their race."

I agree, I don't think it's racism so much as class difference. What Derek'sproblem is, is that as a black man he doesn't like being considered in the same group as the commonly perceived black cliche. It's much like a gay man who's embarassed by the screaming queen stereotype. He feels that Science lets the ( i.e Dereks ) black image down perhaps.
Having said that, it's not impossible he just doesnt' like other black people, there's a strong dilslike of Africans by Jamaicans for example.”


That is only true for some Jamaicans and some Africans, times are a changing so lets not generalise. It is partly a class thing of course, however it has to be noted in the circles he moves in his colour is probably made a big issue of.
If you are confident with who you are being near to someone like Science does not automatically mean that you should be thrown in a panic and fear you will be clumped together. Derek has also made sweeping statements about asylum seekers and just to point out his nickname is a derogatory dolls name.
morne nagel
20-07-2005
Here's A CLIP OF THE COMMENTS (right click to download) from 'Nominations Uncut', which were subsequently edited out of the main show.

DivX AVI format - 21.2MB

I agree fervently that Derek obviously has some thinly veiled self-hatred issues regarding race and it certainly affirms his political affilations with the 'Monday Club'.

Also relevent is the clip from two weeks ago featuring Derek's justification of the word 'n*gger' in the context of Science:

RACIAL RHETORIC CLIP - 8.6MB
LaVidaLoca
20-07-2005
Originally Posted by morne nagel:
“Here's A CLIP OF THE COMMENTS (right click to download) from 'Nominations Uncut', which were subsequently editted out of the main show.

DivX AVI format - 21.2MB

I agree fervently that Derek obviously has some thinly veiled self-hatred issues regarding race and it certainly affirms his political affilations with the 'Monday Club'.”

Thanks for that Let's hope that some people won't accuse you of "tampering with it" and that Derek never actually said such things and even if he did "they were meant in a joking way" as this is all we're hearing lately whenever we dare to point out the obvious...
xxsammiexx2003
20-07-2005
Originally Posted by BigBrother7:
“Derek's so funny. What a great man. He has to win! How can he really be called racist because he finds black people annoying! Firstly its his opinion, he isnt disliking them because theyre black, its because he says he usually finds them annoying. Plus, he's black himself! Apparently racism between the same 'type' is allowed i.e. what black rappers call themselves in songs, but white people would be arrested for...”

White boy Eminem is allowed to do it too .
morne nagel
20-07-2005
A lot of people are still in disbelief that Derek holds racially reprehensible prejudices. I hope they can look at the clips above.
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