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Derek ... maybe not all that bad
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andy1973
23-07-2005
I know Science is a good lad but looking back objectively he wouldn't of been easy to live with. Derek says some kind words...

link
Cornchips
23-07-2005
I agree with you about Derek. He is a complex character, and like most people is neither all bad nor all good. He is playing a game in there and is a very complex character.

Science, although very entertaining to watch (which is why he should have stayed over orla) must have been a nightmare to live with.
marmar
23-07-2005
Good heavens can't you see when he is trying to manipulate the British Public as well as his other HM's
anna123
23-07-2005
hes an idiot! He made sciences last week in there a complete hell!
I also don't like the way he seems to be ganging up on all the girls in the house. It's obvious his next target will be the 2 women.
Little G
23-07-2005
Yeah, I liked Derek to begin with, but his constant character assasination is really getting to me. Science, Orlaith and now he's after makosi. He should be shot down.

I just realised that the peopel I hate in this house are the three gay folk. According to Kemal, I'd be homophobic. Was absolutely disgusted with the way he spoke to science that night, trying to make him say that he's homophobic.
Devilot
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by andy1973:
“I know Science is a good lad but looking back objectively he wouldn't of been easy to live with. Derek says some kind words...

link”


Im sorry but the despicable RACIST things he has said about Science far outweighs any good things he might say about him now he has succeeded in getting rid of him.

How DARE he talk about sensitivity towards Science

The only thing this proves is that he now has Orlaith next in his sights.
Jilly
23-07-2005
I really expected Derek to gloat more when Science went, but it was Eugene and Craig that seemed to me to be smug about it. I think Derek would like to have made a breakthrough with Science I hope outside they can make it up.
Leprechaun
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by Little G:
“Yeah, I liked Derek to begin with, but his constant character assasination is really getting to me. Science, Orlaith and now he's after makosi. He should be shot down.

I just realised that the peopel I hate in this house are the three gay folk. According to Kemal, I'd be homophobic. Was absolutely disgusted with the way he spoke to science that night, trying to make him say that he's homophobic.”

I second every single word in this post.

I noticed too those three people. But then I realised that they are just the worst people in GENERAL in that house.
Endemoniada
23-07-2005
I heard no kind words...just the usual sanctimonious drivel. Derek may be able to manipulate HMs, FMs and viewers alike but I will always see the treacherous slime-ball for what he is.
Jilly
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by hyacinthbee:
“Im sorry but the despicable RACIST things he has said about Science far outweighs any good things he might say about him now he has succeeded in getting rid of him.

How DARE he talk about sensitivity towards Science

The only thing this proves is that he now has Orlaith next in his sights. ”

Its funny you should say that I spoke to a black collegue at work today, he did not think Derek had been a racist towards Science, he also liked Derek above Science and thought Science had to go.
radio-one
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by Little G:
“I just realised that the peopel I hate in this house are the three gay folk. According to Kemal, I'd be homophobic. Was absolutely disgusted with the way he spoke to science that night, trying to make him say that he's homophobic.”

That's my feeling too. Those three have given gay guys a bad name.
gary45
23-07-2005
If Derek said anything nice about Science (which is doubtful) he said it for one reason only: tactics. He heard the reception Science got, and he doesn't want a backlash from the Science fans when he is next up. The man is so transparent.
diverdee
23-07-2005
The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he didn't exist
Synix
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“I agree with you about Derek. He is a complex character, and like most people is neither all bad nor all good. He is playing a game in there and is a very complex character.”

Agreed - he is a complex character - however, I think some of the most endeering moments in the house so far have been when Derek has given both Science (when Science wanted to be the Narrator) and Craig (Craig's tif with Ant) some heartfelt "wise" advice - there was an air of quality and progress about those moments.
Shady Dan
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by andy1973:
“I know Science is a good lad but looking back objectively he wouldn't of been easy to live with. Derek says some kind words...

link”

I see he's brainwashed you to.
hatboy
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by hyacinthbee:
“Im sorry but the despicable RACIST things he has said about Science far outweighs any good things he might say about him now he has succeeded in getting rid of him.

How DARE he talk about sensitivity towards Science

The only thing this proves is that he now has Orlaith next in his sights. ”

Exactly. What Derek is doing is damage limitation for himself and discrediting or Orlaith.

We shouldn't judge people on the last "nice" (or nasty)thing they said, but on all the information we have on them and their actions over a period of time.

That tells you more about who someone really is.
p381
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by Jilly:
“Its funny you should say that I spoke to a black collegue at work today, he did not think Derek had been a racist towards Science, he also liked Derek above Science and thought Science had to go.”

Well, that's only one Black person's view........and i don't know how ANYONE can like Derek - Black or White!
SWW (SWW)
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by andy1973:
“I know Science is a good lad but looking back objectively he wouldn't of been easy to live with. Derek says some kind words...

link”

All I hear is him trying to make Orlaith look bad now!

Insensitive... Hmm that is what Derek IS

Tacky... erm from the man that runs around the House making up ridiculous lies about Science.

Him and Kemal spent most of the morning ridiculing Science, yet Science is no longer a competitor!!! Derek is obssessed with "hate" of other female and most straight male HMs, from looking at his so called game plan... which appears to be more about a personal twisted agenda.

He has no honour, no integrity and more specific to him... no class.

Ole Orlaith
Ya get mi?
backdoor_uk
23-07-2005
Derek is certainly not bad at manipulating the public
Jilly
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by p381:
“Well, that's only one Black person's view........and i don't know how ANYONE can like Derek - Black or White!”

Well look at the results and hes still in there.
p381
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by Synix:
“ I think some of the most endeering moments in the house so far have been when Derek has given both Science (when Science wanted to be the Narrator) and Craig (Craig's tif with Ant) some heartfelt "wise" advice - there was an air of quality and progress about those moments.”

This was only for the viewers to think 'Oh, isn't Derek nice, isn't Derek decent'. He couldn't give 2 Sh*ts about Science or Craig......or anyone else in the house for that matter. He just wants to WIN!
Candice
23-07-2005
Derek nominated Science and Orlaith. One gone and the next to go. Derek is simply moving on to his next victim. He's been doing it all week and he's already had a bitching session with Kamel about Orlaith this morning calling her 'a lady of the night'. See link below.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/n...ry.jsp?id=1451

Edit: More like propaganda than kind words.
Jilly
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by Candice:
“Derek nominated Science and Orlaith. One gone and the next to go. Derek is simply moving on to his next victim. He's been doing it all week and he's already had a bitching session with Kamel about Orlaith this morning calling her 'a lady of the night'. See link below.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/n...ry.jsp?id=1451”

Has Orlaith ever called Derek or nominated him?
zazza
23-07-2005
Originally Posted by p381:
“Well, that's only one Black person's view........and i don't know how ANYONE can like Derek - Black or White!”


Because they've only seen the carefully edited highlights on the highlights show?

Because they belong to the BNP?

biomorph04
23-07-2005
....2.07pm weds12th Derek is talking to Eugene about how he feels towards the other housemates. He says “I get this angry feeling. Something like the feeling a man gets before murdering someone.“

.....Explaining to Roberto how he deals with things derek announced: "I could have someone executed in the morning and go out for a 3 course meal that night......I could have been a very good African dictator."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3579402.stm

How to spot a PSYCHOPATH at work

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/BUSINESS...e.psychopaths/

Corporate PSYCHOPATHS at large

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s1360571.htm

Corporate PSYCHOPATHS
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