And Jade/Alex/Sophie/Sandy/Jade (blimey hes come out of his shell!) are having a normal conversation, I switch over to feed 2 and theres Kate and Alison singing that 'i love you' song for the 13241241234 time!.

Just imagine if the trailer trash were in for 9 weeks, it would be the same old stuff every night , instead of the interesting escapades of their lives. We have'nt learnt anything about the shallow people in there, the others we learnt about their lives and adventures.

Let's hope BB3 isn't shallow and improves, if I want to watch the teletubbies I have that already on the BBC.

You're right we don't really know anything about the others, they're to busy making up silly games. I listened to Sandy talking in the garden this morning and he's the only housemate(apart from Alex)who's being themselves.

Do you not think the others are normally behaving like they are and making up silly games? I don't doubt that Sandy is behaving normally, but I haven't seen much false behaviour from any of the others either.

Whether this is good or bad, I don't know.

I suppose its what you want to watch really. To be honest I'd rather watch aload of people getting pissed and playing amusing games rarther listening to someones life story - Isn't that what the Biography channel is for?

have to say I am forced to agree with Jim, watching them get more and more pissed is amusing, especially with the factor of the blossoming romance of Kate and Spencer, I just want to see how far these drunken antics might take this relationship.

As in Are we about to see our first sexual encounter on Big brother in the UK, can we finally say out loud, yes someone finally shagged on our set.

I would rather definately watch something which could lead to something I might find hillariously funny than watching an old man, talk of his hatred for the others and how he considers himself a 'lion'.

My point on the lion thing is, isn't a male lion the leader of the pack, well I haven't seen any leading coming from this s'posed king of the jungle.

Well said, Jim. The reason why we're all sitting here tapping keys late every night is because the housemates are doing something interesting / boring / sexual / funny / etc.

Does anyone know when this heaven/hell split starts?

You obviously havn't seen the comments Sandy made.

He compared the all the housemates (not just himself) to a pride (not a pack!) of lions - he sad he was an old discredited lion with a mangy mane, another house member had eaten too many antelope and another wanted to have all the other housemates cubs.

Try to get your facts straight before mouthing off.

I think BB plan to introduce it when they feel the time is right, not at a set day.

I think it is interesting and arsey enough at the moment, I think they'll introduce heaven/hell when the housemates start getting on too well.

Actually it was Jonny he compared to a discredited lion with a mangy mane. He (Sandy) and Alex were the the two males who are going to go out and start ripping people apart.

The quotes are available on the C4 site.

Ahh ok - must turn my speakers up.

appears I might of been correct then, hmm and you were saying who should get their facts right?

No - he didn't say he was the leader of the pack, or anything like you said.

Why do people like Alex and especially Sandy bother applying to go on BB?
From previous years as well as all the foreign versions it's obvious BB wants boozing drunkenness, silliness, sex/romance. It's not going to be deep discussions on Nietszche!

Sandy might be able to go back to his job but will be booed when he leaves, and as for Alex? Theres no way he's going to go anywhere once he leaves!