After seeing him this morn. on kids' TV, there is no-one in any of the BBs as charismatic & funny as Brian. I wonder how he would have handled this bunch?

Because brian won last year i dont think you can try twice.

Yeah pity he isn't on, or even better Craig who would of brought up the Shower thing with Jonny in a much better way

He was very articulate and would of taken him to the cleaners.

or Bubbles. It was great how those two used to fight, but became good friends. Still missin BB2

Like ehhh !!! I was thinkin' right ? the carseys like ehhh !! messed up like !! so I'm taking you to the cleaners right, like I'm talkin' kinda artic.. articu... oh b****cks. clean the bog la !!

Ehhhhh!!

oh those happy days of summer!

Well personally I believe if brian was in there, then alex would more than likely hit on him and it would of turned into some form of gay sex BB, and personally I don't wanna see that.

Rather libelous thing to write there Wayne. He has a picture of his ex-girlfriend on the wall. If you had'nt realised then he has stated to others he knows what people think of all models being gay etc. He's german in a lot of respects and even has the same 'german' tone having worked in Germany for a long time myself.

He's a classic german person if you ask me.

that comment just doesn't deserve space in this forum.

it was a just an opinion on what i thought would happen if Brian was in the house.

Apologies if you did not like it.

You seem to be saying that Alex is gay because he is pretty. Is that what you think gay men look like ?

Perhaps you should seek out more information about people before you give them a sexual identity.

Furthermore, your apology is worded in such a way to suggest it is our fault for the way we interpret it. You haven't apologised for the implication that Alex is gay.

Brian didn't seem to be particulary interested in sex. Highly unlikey to happen even if Alex was gay. Remember, as you can be straight and celebate, you can also be gay and never have any sex.

I am confused how you could actually take a apology as an insult or degradational comment.

I apologised on the basis that I have stated something of a personal opinion, which I would agree even now that it does in fact break the rules. To which I was apologising.

Whether I feel I must apologise for the assumption I have that Alex is in fact gay, why should I? Why must I feel that through my insults I feel I must be apologetic, because I have hurt other members feelings.

I have apologised for the members, but my personal feelings and thoughts on this matter, I feel I do not need to apologise for.

I was not saying that my apology was on the basis of how you interpret what I was saying, but an apology for breaking the rules, as well as upsetting any other forum members.

If you saw it another way than that, then I again apologise, as I feel I should of possibly gone more in depth as to what I actually meant by saying sorry.

Other than this, I feel I haven't got anything other to apologise about, I marked out my feelings as to what i wanted and did not want to see on TV.
Any implications I made about sexuality of a member of the BB house, is an opinion I feel I must NOT apologise about.

So, what were you apologising for ?

I was apologising for offending anyone with my viewpoints.

As I had stated in the above comment.

Sorry if I sound like a stickler for detail but this wording suggests you are apologising for our behaviour. Perhaps it should say, 'sorry if I offended anyone'.

Saying you are sorry if we didn't like it is nothing like apologising for your remarks.

I think you should read up on libel issues, just because you registered on a forum, does not mean you are free to libel people in the public eye which could do damage to their career.

For example if Alex went for a job and he was turned down because the magazine was for 'men' but obviously the editor was a member of this forum and thought that Alex was perceived as gay from people libelling him here then he probably would'nt give Alex the job. Alex would have every right to prosecute the owners of this website.

Not the owners, the individuals who make the comments:

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He's agreed to these terms and conditions

I cannot nor will I not carry on this argument as to whether I worded my apology correctly.

I have apologised and that is all that matters, or it should be.

If you feel I have not apologised enough or gotten down on my knees and licked your boots enough, then please do not reply to whatever i say. That is your choice.

To carry on this argument any further would be like kindergarden banter, and in the rules again, it states we should respect one another, so I am having the respect enough for the rest of the forum members to apologise, But I feel I am faced with people who wish more of me to apologise. Which I cannot give.

Either way, this argument is finished.

OK, WayneF, I suppose we are picking on you a little because you represent a vulgar and insensitive element which has invaded these boards of late.

There are two issues here:

1. Saying Alex is gay without any evidence to back it up.

2. Using the term, 'Gay', as a term of insult. This is not only insulting to Alex, but to any other person who might be gay, or knows someone who is gay.

I hope you will stay with us, WayneF, but please be respectful to the feelings of others.

Whether Alex is gay or not isn't the issue!
I just wish there was someone as great as Brian! Spencer has the potential to be funny but I think he might have too much of a laddish attitude to women - that they're just for his gratification.

I don't think there's much point in this continuing. Thread closed... I think the points made by Leanne speak volumes for the spirit of our terms and conditions and the manner in which members both old and new alike should interpret them.

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