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What does everyone actually think of adele?
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nickerscat
15-06-2002
Interesting the way she goes about the bitching. She'll tentatively say she thinks someones 'shady' or 'dodgy' to a person to plant a seed of doubt in their minds, then she gauges their reaction before deciding whether or not to carry on. She's got brains, unlike Jade, and this makes her dangerous.
Calrissian
15-06-2002
Adele, brains, and a body to match.
How do i get hold of her phone number ? lol

Ohh, and she'll have 70,000 too, she is gonna be one wanted woman !
cheese
15-06-2002
she doesnt actually bitch as much as u lot make out. iim sure she doesnt plan it, just if she has a feeling about someone shell express it. shes a good judge of character, which u guys obviously arent
nickerscat
15-06-2002
I think she does plan it although, as it's only a gameshow, this doesn't really matter as she is perfectly entitled to play to win. However how she can described as a good judge of character I don't know after she got so friendly with Lee.
nickerscat
15-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by nickerscat
I think she does plan it although, as it's only a gameshow ,this doesn't really matter as she is perfectly entitled to play to win. However how she can described as a good judge of character I don't know after she got so friendly with Lee. ”

Sorry folks, I was trying to edit my post but ended up quoting it and I can't delete it for some reason - blame the beer and the World Cup!!!
blink
15-06-2002
It seems to me that the reaction to Adele is precisely the reason why a woman cannot win the game!

What has she done that is so awful? Been nice to people and then nominated them? Inasmuch as she has to nominate somebody - and indeed under the new rules has to give a critical reason for doing so - what else is she supposed to do?

She's only doing what every other housemate is doing, in that regard. But being a woman, of course, she is bitchy, two-faced and all the rest of it.

And of course, it is other women that are the harshest in their judgement!

I despair, I really do! :'(
nickerscat
15-06-2002
I don't think Adelle's being a woman has anything to do with it - look at all the stick Sandy got for being bitchy and, unless I'm very much mistaken, he is a man!!!
cheese
15-06-2002
[quote]It seems to me that the reaction to Adele is precisely the reason why a woman cannot win the game!

What has she done that is so awful? Been nice to people and then nominated them? Inasmuch as she has to nominate somebody - and indeed under the new rules has to give a critical reason for doing so - what else is she supposed to do?

She's only doing what every other housemate is doing, in that regard. But being a woman, of course, she is bitchy, two-faced and all the rest of it.

And of course, it is other women that are the harshest in their judgement!

I despair, I really do!
QUOTE]

I totally agree u sexist pigs!
blink
16-06-2002
Put it another way: Imagine a woman in there who did nothing all day but lie around smoking and making the occasional smart-arse remark. I'm sure she'd be favourite to win it!

No chance! No matter how good looking she was. In fact, her good-looks would be something extra to hold against her!
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
The reaction to Adele has nothing to with her sex - look at the reaction to 'Nasty' Nick in BB1.

The comments about being "two-faced" are not to do with who she nominates but about how she's always best freinds with whoever she's alone with and hates whoever she thinks they hate or who she might be able to make them hate.

I've said in other threads that this may not be a concious thing she does but rather a 'survival tactic' she adopts in real life by being a social chamelion - changing her views to match those around her. Many people do this, but only when it's seen on TV from both sides by someone outside does it seem so obvious.

Whilst I agree that there are definate predudices in the public which seem to conspire to make it almost impossible for a woman to win, I don't think that is the reason in this case as it has already been demonstrated that this sort of behaviour is looked on badly by the public regardless of sex.

If it wasn't for the very negative way some people seem to judge Kate because of her looks I would actually have some hope that she could be the first female BB winner....she's enough of a "laddette" to join in with the lads, but still femine enough to get on with most of the girls....somehow shes seen in a really negative way outside though...mostly by females maybe? (and yes, I know I'm courting a flame for that bit!
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by blink
Put it another way: Imagine a woman in there who did nothing all day but lie around smoking and making the occasional smart-arse remark. I'm sure she'd be favourite to win it!

No chance! No matter how good looking she was. In fact, her good-looks would be something extra to hold against her!
”

Then again., we've not had a male BB winner that acts like that either.

BB1 = an 'ordinary bloke' who showed some maturity dealing with a tricky situation and was more popular than the remaining housemates who had been portrayed as boring

BB2 = a complete natural entertainer who the public took to completely

Celeb BB = a natural comic who kept a level head and lots of entertainment
MelBB1
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by Calrissian
Adele, brains, and a body to match.
How do i get hold of her phone number ? lol

Ohh, and she'll have 70,000 too, she is gonna be one wanted woman !
”

Really? then explain why she is still a virgin at the ripe old age of 23? LOL !!!!
Father Jack
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by MelBB1
Really? then explain why she is still a virgin at the ripe old age of 23? LOL !!!! ”

She hasn't received the money yet, has she?
As C4 presumably know the result in advance they could have paid her already I suppose.

Do you know something we don't Mel?

Jack
MelBB1
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by blink
It seems to me that the reaction to Adele is precisely the reason why a woman cannot win the game!

What has she done that is so awful? Been nice to people and then nominated them? Inasmuch as she has to nominate somebody - and indeed under the new rules has to give a critical reason for doing so - what else is she supposed to do?

She's only doing what every other housemate is doing, in that regard. But being a woman, of course, she is bitchy, two-faced and all the rest of it.

And of course, it is other women that are the harshest in their judgement!

I despair, I really do! :'(
”

Open yours eyes and ears. If she only nominated people she did not like that would be okay but to manipulate others (Alex, Lee, Sophie, Jade) and influence them to vote the same way as herself is what I have a problem with. Why does she have to hint to others how she is going to nominate? think about it. Adele does not deserve to win. The smart women would go about it in an intellectual way i.e. using the Diary Room as a sound off and not the other housemates.
emma555
16-06-2002
I can understand why people like her. When she's talking to people, she is always really polite and friendly. But I haven't liked her since week one, and she was even the one I chose to be booted out the first week.
I think she is smart and pretty, and she is definitely influencing the other housemates. She only says very subtle things, but she is able to get out whatever she wants from them. She is constantly checking her position in the house.
Last night, even though she was in the rich side, she didn't look that happy, I think she was realising the negative effects of being "rich". She tried to influence Alex's views of Jonny again, she asked him what he thought of PJ and Spencer's reactions and his diplomatic answer was everyone's different which Adele couldn't believe because it wasn't what she wanted to hear. Alex even came to Jonny's defence!!
There is just something about Adele I really don't like. Alison has said that Adele is the housemate she least likes because of how fake she is. Look at how Adele behaves when she is making her nominations. She chooses her words very carefully. I really hope she doesn't win.
MelBB1
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by Father Jack


She hasn't received the money yet, has she?
As C4 presumably know the result in advance they could have paid her already I suppose.

Do you know something we don't Mel?

Jack
”

You are seriously missing my point. If Adele had brains and beauty as alleged then why is she still a sad old virgin?
emma555
16-06-2002
That is Adele's personal choice. There is nothing sad about it.
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by MelBB1
Really? then explain why she is still a virgin at the ripe old age of 23? LOL !!!! ”

Because that's quite young? Because she's not met someone she feels physically comfortable with? Because sex isn't everything? Because it may not be true (call me a cynic)?
MelBB1
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by emma555
I can understand why people like her. When she's talking to people, she is always really polite and friendly. But I haven't liked her since week one, and she was even the one I chose to be booted out the first week.
I think she is smart and pretty, and she is definitely influencing the other housemates. She only says very subtle things, but she is able to get out whatever she wants from them. She is constantly checking her position in the house.
Last night, even though she was in the rich side, she didn't look that happy, I think she was realising the negative effects of being "rich". She tried to influence Alex's views of Jonny again, she asked him what he thought of PJ and Spencer's reactions and his diplomatic answer was everyone's different which Adele couldn't believe because it wasn't what she wanted to hear. Alex even came to Jonny's defence!!
There is just something about Adele I really don't like. Alison has said that Adele is the housemate she least likes because of how fake she is. Look at how Adele behaves when she is making her nominations. She chooses her words very carefully. I really hope she doesn't win.
”

Here here. An intelligent post at last. I know she will not win so rest assured.
Father Jack
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by MelBB1
You are seriously missing my point. If Adele had brains and beauty as alleged then why is she still a sad old virgin? ”

'K
Mel how old are you? I'm interested that you think Adele is OLD at 23. Good lord.

Maybe the fact that she has brains and beauty is WHY she's still a virgin, losing one's virginity is not a RACE my dear. You are allowed to wait until it means something more than a quick shag on the parent's bed during a party. Is that how you lost yours (assuming you did)? Were you 12?

God knows what sort of homelife you must have to have that sort of attitude.

Jack
not a virgin, but respects those who chose to be despite childish comments like those of Mel.

ANYONE ELSE AGREE WITH ME????

Respect to Adele (at least on this issue anyway)
Lucytash
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by MelBB1
You are seriously missing my point. If Adele had brains and beauty as alleged then why is she still a sad old virgin? ”

what does having brains have to do with losing your virginity? Even those with very low IQs can manage it. I would think the clever thing is to be able to stand up for your own convictions.
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Father Jack


'K
Mel how old are you? I'm interested that you think Adele is OLD at 23. Good lord.

Maybe the fact that she has brains and beauty is WHY she's still a virgin, losing one's virginity is not a RACE my dear. You are allowed to wait until it means something more than a quick shag on the parent's bed during a party. Is that how you lost yours (assuming you did)? Were you 12?

God knows what sort of homelife you must have to have that sort of attitude.

Jack
not a virgin, but respects those who chose to be despite childish comments like those of Mel.

ANYONE ELSE AGREE WITH ME????

Respect to Adele (at least on this issue anyway)
”

I'm with you on this one Jack...most people who I'd credit with more intelligence lost their virginity later rather than sooner. It's much easier to give in to peer presure or basic urges if you can't conceptualise consequences or see the long term benifits of waiting....or am I just being intellectually snobish? Na!
Father Jack
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by fan-at-ic


I'm with you on this one Jack...most people who I'd credit with more intelligence lost their virginity later rather than sooner. It's much easier to give in to peer presure or basic urges if you can't conceptualise consequences or see the long term benifits of waiting....or am I just being intellectually snobish? Na!
”

Nothing wrong with intellectual snobbery: I do it all the time!

I lost mine later rather than sooner, and though there was definitely a social pressure to shag the first girl that came along (if you'll pardon the expression), I didn't do it until I had real feelings for the person. Strangely, people didn't actually pressure me personally into doing anything.
Can't think why...

Jack
Glad he waited

I'm still waiting for young Mel to tell us her age and IQ
SugarHiccup
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by fan-at-ic
The reaction to Adele has nothing to with her sex - look at the reaction to 'Nasty' Nick in BB1.

The comments about being "two-faced" are not to do with who she nominates but about how she's always best freinds with whoever she's alone with and hates whoever she thinks they hate or who she might be able to make them hate.

I've said in other threads that this may not be a concious thing she does but rather a 'survival tactic' she adopts in real life by being a social chamelion - changing her views to match those around her. Many people do this, but only when it's seen on TV from both sides by someone outside does it seem so obvious.

Whilst I agree that there are definate predudices in the public which seem to conspire to make it almost impossible for a woman to win, I don't think that is the reason in this case as it has already been demonstrated that this sort of behaviour is looked on badly by the public regardless of sex.

If it wasn't for the very negative way some people seem to judge Kate because of her looks I would actually have some hope that she could be the first female BB winner....she's enough of a "laddette" to join in with the lads, but still femine enough to get on with most of the girls....somehow shes seen in a really negative way outside though...mostly by females maybe? (and yes, I know I'm courting a flame for that bit!
”



I totally agree with everything you said, fan. Kate! Go on ya good thing!!! Hope she wins
Vote for Kate to win
nickerscat
16-06-2002
I think holding onto your virginity for the right person is pretty cool. It has probably saved Adelle from being hurt by prats like PJ who's brains are in their trousers.
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