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How would you run BB4?
mynameischris
14-06-2002
If I had any say on BB4, I would try to make it mega-tough.

For a start, I would revert to the original idea: no contact with the outside world.
So, no treats that involve watching football, boxing etc etc.

If we were going to go the whole way and completely isolate the contestants, they could even go as far as
- relabelling packaging of food etc
- digitising the voice of Big Brother
- having a seperate 'eviction room' that evictees go through so contestants hear nothing from outside
- no 'random' treats to 'cheer them up': make em work!
- they could even go as far as somehow blocking the garden: obviously they couldn't put a roof over it but maybe some kind of dome so they couldn't here shouts from outside.

Maybe its just me being a tad sadistic

suggestions anybody?
c
Babycatcher
14-06-2002
I quite like this idea!

Mess with their heads!!!!
gid
14-06-2002
Extreme Big Brother:

As above, but:
[list][*]No natural light, no clocks[*]Grey boiler suits only[*]Cold water only[*]Musak played into the house 24/7[*]Only beige/yellow food[*]Solitary confinement for failed tasks[*]Lots of sharp objects, just lying about[/list]
It would be an endurance show, where all contestants get £1000 per day they stay in the house. Leave by choice or by straight-jacket. When one person leaves, another replaces, chosen by the viewers.

Ideally, have them all speak different languages so they can't communicate...
johnno
14-06-2002
I don't see why it should be 'mega tough'. If u are too hard on the HMs then you risk them walking out. I think all this series has proven is that they have had too much money and booze for nothing, and not enough to do. The previous series were simply based on basic rations of everything, and extras only for completing decent challenges that usually needed team work. They used to gamble a percentage of their weekly allowance on winning depending on how optimistic they were. And they need a proper schedule, with occasional surprises to break the routines. There was enough time for lazing about and discussion and back stabbing, and seeing who the leaders were or wanted to be, and a full gamut of interpersonal relationships. I really don't see why we need a sadistic BB for it to be entertaining. I think overall the HMs should ENJOY the experience as much as we enjoy watching.
Calrissian
14-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by gid
Extreme Big Brother:

As above, but:
[list][*]No natural light, no clocks[*]Grey boiler suits only[*]Cold water only[*]Musak played into the house 24/7[*]Only beige/yellow food[*]Solitary confinement for failed tasks[*]Lots of sharp objects, just lying about[/list]
It would be an endurance show, where all contestants get £1000 per day they stay in the house. Leave by choice or by straight-jacket. When one person leaves, another replaces, chosen by the viewers.

Ideally, have them all speak different languages so they can't communicate...
”

Oh my !, that sounds like a superb show. Best of all, the fact that none of them can understand eachother, although i suppose you could say that is the case in the current house.

Sharp objects, hmmm, VERY good.
pRy
14-06-2002
Base it 1000m under ground in an old nuclear bucker, so the entire world could no longer excist and they wouldnt know.
cerberus
14-06-2002
I thought it was fairly well established that most people who want to watch an endurance show will watch something other than BB.

I think most of the ideas this year (apart from the lack of tasks) have been pretty good in theory, but they've screwed up the execution by changing their minds constantly about what they're doing.

If BB was going to 'get tough' they should have implemented the strikes system from the beginning - say one warning then a strike - instead of the constant warnings until the other night. The split would have worked much better if they had made the housemates experience 'rich' and 'poor' before splitting it.

I have a few other ideas, but I'm keeping them to myself
gid
14-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by cerberus
I thought it was fairly well established that most people who want to watch an endurance show will watch something other than BB.
”

Yeah... the idea of BB3 is the viewers' endurance...

Quote:
“
I think most of the ideas this year (apart from the lack of tasks) have been pretty good in theory, but they've screwed up the execution by changing their minds constantly about what they're doing.
”

IMHO, the problem this year (other than the choice of housemates) is their insistence on using the Saturday PM show for the main task. This means that the task will be at most about 15 minutes long.

Now they've split the house, the tasks also now to be individual, rather than team-based, to decide the coming week's split. This takes away any bonding, or letting the side down. It also means the budget gambling can't be done.
Little Ali
14-06-2002
I'd give 'em some more tasks to do!! If I have to watch them all sitting round making small talk all day for the rest of the show I'm gonna scream!!!!
Anyway what happened to "kick 'em out if they're too boring"??
Tony@home
14-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by gid

IMHO, the problem this year (other than the choice of housemates) is their insistence on using the Saturday PM show for the main task. This means that the task will be at most about 15 minutes long.

Now they've split the house, the tasks also now to be individual, rather than team-based, to decide the coming week's split. This takes away any bonding, or letting the side down. It also means the budget gambling can't be done.
”

I tend to agree. Last year's team-based tasks, like the world record attempts, lasted most of the week and provided a focus for the housemates AND made good watching on TV. This year, there is nothing really happening. I look on E4 and all I see is either boring conversation, chickens and aircraft noise, or someone complaining / breaking the rules out of boredom (sp?).

Am I the only viewer who is getting a bit pee'd off with the constant rule breaking? It makes watching the live broadcast much less enjoyably. If BB gave out some proper tasks, their minds would concentrate on other things.
pjh
14-06-2002
Here's what I would do

2 House, Both Identical.

ONE Filmed - One NOT

The ones in the fake house would still go thorugh all the BB motions, but the producers would emulate the public vote. BB would emulate the experience for them with tasks, fake camera men bumping around etc.

So the pretentous wannabes would not know for sure if when they were evicted they're going to meet Davina, or getting in the back of a taxi to their house.

No more listening to them fantasing about the VIP list at the Met bar.

pjh
cerberus
14-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by pjh
Here's what I would do

2 House, Both Identical.

ONE Filmed - One NOT

The ones in the fake house would still go thorugh all the BB motions, but the producers would emulate the public vote. BB would emulate the experience for them with tasks, fake camera men bumping around etc.

So the pretentous wannabes would not know for sure if when they were evicted they're going to meet Davina, or getting in the back of a taxi to their house.

No more listening to them fantasing about the VIP list at the Met bar.

pjh
”

Evil idea, I like it

But... who would be in the 'real' house, if not a bunch of wannabes?
minnie
14-06-2002
Yeah and I wouldn't let them know the results of who was to be evicted....Davina can just wait for whoever it is to go to the toilet and they can be kidnapped and slung out of a secret door - none of the housemates will know who is going and when...

all they will know and realise is that FEAR of going to the loo in case it 's THEM!!!!!!

haw haw...
minnie
14-06-2002
another thought.....

better still - all the beds are boooby trapped so that the mattresses can be turned over by BB and the sleeping occupant is dumped in a secret chamber underneath thte house as they sleep...

this could also be the fate of the BB evictee! It would happen in the dead of night when they are all asleep after being dosed with drugged wine by way of a BB "treat". Of course BB would have to enforce a rule to say all contestants must sleep in bedrooms....

in the mornign, they would all awake finding a missing housemate but not knowing where or how they went.

If they sussed the booby trapped beds or secret door in toilet it would at least be interesting to see them resisting the loo for as long as poss. and trying to keep awake in bed at night....
sleep deprivation + constipation = utter madness...
pjh
14-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by cerberus


Evil idea, I like it

But... who would be in the 'real' house, if not a bunch of wannabes?
”

Maybe wannabes still, but not cocksure gloating 'We'll meet in the Met Bar when we get out' wannabes.

pjh
grove34
14-06-2002
I'D RUN IT OUT OF TOWN FOREVER.
pjh
14-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by minnie
another thought.....


in the mornign, they would all awake finding a missing housemate but not knowing where or how they went.

”

But you could leave a bloodstain or bloody sheets for the remaining housemates to clean up!

pjh
minnie
14-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by pjh


But you could leave a bloodstain or bloody sheets for the remaining housemates to clean up!

pjh
”


WICKED!!!!
pjh
14-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by minnie



WICKED!!!!
”

:'(
helios
14-06-2002
Get rid of the bars and make the whole house poor,
Bring back the team based tasks which will need training for.
All treats will have to be earnt by completing a task.
Increase the prize money so no one will want to walk, say £500000, maybe have a runners-up prize too, a car or a holiday.
Keep the strikes, for each strike your possible prize money is reduced by half, that should keep them in line!
Digital.Diablo
15-06-2002
A big square padded white room, a toilet in one corner, a shower in another, and 10/11 or 12 (depending on how many HM's) white beds in a circle with just an 'oracle' in the centre. Out of this oracle could emerge everything they need, including all the food and drink they eat, radio mic batteries e.t.c.

How's about constant white noise going 27/4 (or spencers bloody incessant drumkit improvisation)

Ohh, and they could only wear grey underwear and nothing else...

The winner is the the last one to crack up.
Digital.Diablo
15-06-2002
Or even, play the muppets..

Manamana


Manamana Du Du di du do, Manamana , do do di do
Manamana Du Du di du do, Manamana , do do di do
Manamana Du Du di du do, Manamana , do do di do
Manamana Du Du di du do, Manamana , do do di do
Manamana Du Du di du do, Manamana , do do di do
Manamana Du Du di du do, Manamana , do do di do argghhh.....
Pingu
15-06-2002
BB4:

A very small house.
Lots of knives lying about.
Create lots of friction.
Make them live in poverty.
When they go to the diary room they are shown clips of all the bitching and backstabbing.

Cook for five weeks...

AND ENJOY!!!!!

Its reality tv/horror
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