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Old 17-08-2005, 15:27
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X Factor winner Steve Brookstein has launched a scathing attack on the show after being dropped by his record label.

His comments came as Simon Cowell admitted that the runners-up, Louis Walsh's G4, were the real winners of last year's series.

"The show gives you a platform but then pulls the rug from under your feet by making you sign to a certain record label and having no say in what happens next," Brookstein told the Daily Mail. It should be about music and talent but it's not.

"The X Factor is all one big theatre - it's turning music into the WWF. It's about killing music to make light entertainment. I've now got to break away from The X Factor, which is fundamentally cheese and regarded as so by anyone and everyone in the industry."


"It should be about music and talent but it's not."
Obviously, since you're the one that won the last one. We've heard nothing from him at all. I'm not surprised his record label dropped him. These comments are just out of spite and biterness.
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Old 17-08-2005, 15:33
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I liked him in XFactor and I voted for him but all he seems to have done since is note-for-note identikit copies of original songs - what's the point of that.
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Old 17-08-2005, 15:48
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Good, hopefully that's one less reality TV winner we'll have to hear from anymore.
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Old 17-08-2005, 16:00
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G4 were clearly (as far as the public were concerned) more popular than Steve Brookstein but they came second. Gareth Gates was widely expected to come first but was beaten into second place by Will Young (I am not taking sides on who had the best voice). Something very fishy going on there!

I think that someone high up in TV Land decided that Gareth Gates and G4 were going to be a massive hit anyway and would survive being put in second place.

By placing Will Young and Steve Brookstein in first place the TV Company maximised it's investment from the free publicity they obtain (and wouldn't have gained from a second place).
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Old 17-08-2005, 16:05
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I know you lot always sneer at posts that begin "A friend of mine, who works on the production team on that show...", but TRUST ME. Will Young won every single vote in that series. Gareth was NEVER in the lead -- it's just that the press assumed he was, and nobody in-the-know corrected them. On the production, Will Young was always the favourite to win, and if you ever meet anyone who worked on the prog, they'll confirm this. I promise.

Time to end this urban myth about GG.
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Old 17-08-2005, 16:06
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Originally Posted by planetnokia
G4 were clearly (as far as the public were concerned) more popular than Steve Brookstein but they came second. Gareth Gates was widely expected to come first but was beaten into second place by Will Young (I am not taking sides on who had the best voice). Something very fishy going on there!

I think that someone high up in TV Land decided that Gareth Gates and G4 were going to be a massive hit anyway and would survive being put in second place.

By placing Will Young and Steve Brookstein in first place the TV Company maximised it's investment from the free publicity they obtain (and wouldn't have gained from a second place).
Well, in the case of Gareth Gates, they were certainly less than accurate, weren't they? In the case of G4, only time will tell.
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Old 17-08-2005, 16:07
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Steve was boring and uninteresting...

If he breaks away from the X-Factor thing I'll be amazed...
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Old 17-08-2005, 16:11
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Originally Posted by zoot
I know you lot always sneer at posts that begin "A friend of mine, who works on the production team on that show...", but TRUST ME. Will Young won every single vote in that series. Gareth was NEVER in the lead -- it's just that the press assumed he was, and nobody in-the-know corrected them. On the production, Will Young was always the favourite to win, and if you ever meet anyone who worked on the prog, they'll confirm this. I promise.

Time to end this urban myth about GG.
We spent all evening ringing the GG number but it was permanently engaged and so were never able to cast our vote. I'm sure that many many other households suffered the same problem.
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Old 17-08-2005, 16:14
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Originally Posted by planetnokia
We spent all evening ringing the GG number but it was permanently engaged and so were never able to cast our vote. I'm sure that many many other households suffered the same problem.
Sure -- but what I'm saying is that Gareth had never won any of the previous shows in the series. The one with the highest number of votes was always Will Young, every single week. Sorry you had a hard time voting for GG, but I doubt there was any conspiracy.
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Old 17-08-2005, 16:21
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from what I've read about this Steve main complaint has been that he has not been allowed to release any original stuff, that he has spent less time performing live since he won the competition than he did in the previous 12 month and that Simon Cowell buggered off to America and on holiday when they were trying to get his album out - which was full of covers which he didn't want to do. Don't you think its interesting that all this has been in the press a couple of days before the new X Factor starts - whats the better we see Steve on it at some stage performing his new single
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Old 17-08-2005, 16:27
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Originally Posted by zoot
I know you lot always sneer at posts that begin "A friend of mine, who works on the production team on that show...", but TRUST ME. Will Young won every single vote in that series. Gareth was NEVER in the lead -- it's just that the press assumed he was, and nobody in-the-know corrected them. On the production, Will Young was always the favourite to win, and if you ever meet anyone who worked on the prog, they'll confirm this. I promise.

Time to end this urban myth about GG.
It's hardly a secret! The results of each week's votes were published in a Pop Idol book released just after the series ended
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Old 17-08-2005, 16:36
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Originally Posted by ShowbizGosQueen
It's hardly a secret! The results of each week's votes were published in a Pop Idol book released just after the series ended

Oh... sorry, I never read the book. But I understood from an earlier post that there was (still) a widespread feeling that Gareth had been "cheated" out of victory. All I was saying was -- he wasn't. He had never been expected to win in the first place.
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Old 17-08-2005, 16:57
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Originally Posted by planetnokia
We spent all evening ringing the GG number but it was permanently engaged and so were never able to cast our vote. I'm sure that many many other households suffered the same problem.
We had exactly the same experience, except we were trying to vote for Will. The number ***** 980 904 is permanently engraved on my memory, I rang it so many times.

Time to move on, don't you think?
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Old 17-08-2005, 17:13
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Originally Posted by Muggsy
We had exactly the same experience, except we were trying to vote for Will. The number ***** 980 904 is permanently engraved on my memory, I rang it so many times.

Time to move on, don't you think?
GG fans have got redial buttons.........
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Old 17-08-2005, 17:19
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Originally Posted by planetnokia
G4 were clearly (as far as the public were concerned) more popular than Steve Brookstein but they came second. Gareth Gates was widely expected to come first but was beaten into second place by Will Young (I am not taking sides on who had the best voice). Something very fishy going on there!
I think you'll find it's more to do with basic human behaviour.

So, you like G4 (heaven knows why, but fair enough), but they're against this average old guy. Noi need to vote, they'll win anyway. Then that equally grim Osbourne woman manages to get the fella masses of sympathy support, on top of his fans voting en mass due to thinking (and probably being right) that he needs it more.

Play that out again for the Will Young final.

And there's really no issue as to who had the best voice between Will Young and the kid he was up against ffs!

Conspiracy theories are for losers. Always seems to be that way, anyway.
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Old 17-08-2005, 17:44
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Originally Posted by planetnokia
GG fans have got redial buttons.........
But trying redial for WY produced NU tone, whereas by dialling the number in full, one could at least get as far as the engaged tone. WY fans are very tenacious.
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Old 17-08-2005, 18:05
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Originally Posted by Ratinho
I think you'll find it's more to do with basic human behaviour.

So, you like G4 (heaven knows why, but fair enough), but they're against this average old guy. Noi need to vote, they'll win anyway. Then that equally grim Osbourne woman manages to get the fella masses of sympathy support, on top of his fans voting en mass due to thinking (and probably being right) that he needs it more.

Play that out again for the Will Young final.

And there's really no issue as to who had the best voice between Will Young and the kid he was up against ffs!

Conspiracy theories are for losers. Always seems to be that way, anyway.
You are probably right but.........I never said I like G4!
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Old 17-08-2005, 18:06
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Didn't mean you. Just used what you said, because I was explaining why i'm pretty sure this happens sometimes.
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Old 17-08-2005, 18:12
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Originally Posted by Ratinho


Didn't mean you. Just used what you said, because I was explaining why i'm pretty sure this happens sometimes.
Ok!

By the way isn't conspiracy a crime and not just something "losers" indulge their fantasies in?
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Old 17-08-2005, 19:10
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Will Young won every single vote in that series
As a Will fan I must correct the statement that Will won every heat. He actually won 5 times (and the final) and Gareth 3. No-one else got a look in! Gareth won on the Big Band week (Mack the Knife) and Abba (One of Us) and the No.1s week (can't remember what he sang though). Will won the rest.


Round 1…Favourite Artist Week
Will 27.3
GG 26.3
Zoe 10.8
Rosie 10.5
Aaron 6.8
Hayley 6.8
Jess 4.6
Laura 4.3
Korben 2.6

Round 2... Christmas Week
Will 22.6
GG 20.8
Darius 19
Zoe 14.2
Aaron 5.4
Hayley 5.1
Rosie 4.8
Laura 4.3
Jess 3.8

Round 3..... Burt Bacharach week
Will 21.3
GG 21
Darius 18.2
Zoe 11.4
Hayley 8.4
Laura 7.1
Rosie 6.9
Aaron 5.7

Round 4..... Songs from the films
Will 29.8
GG 23.3
Darius 18
Hayley 10.8
Zoe 7.8
Rosie 5.5
Laura 4.8

Round 5....... Abba week
GG 36.6
Will 25.2
Zoe 14
Darius 13.3
Hayley 5.8
Rosie 5.1

Round 6........Big Band week
GG 25.4
Will 24
Darius 23.7
Zoe 15.6
Hayley 11.3

Round 7......... No 1s
GG 28.7
Will 27.9
Darius 24.5
Zoe 18.9

Round 8....... Judges’ choice
Will 39.8
GG 39.3
Darius 20.9

Final
Will 53.1
GG 46.9
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Old 17-08-2005, 19:29
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Originally Posted by planetnokia
Ok!

By the way isn't conspiracy a crime and not just something "losers" indulge their fantasies in?
Conspiracy is, conspiracy theories are what losers indulge in.
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Old 17-08-2005, 20:34
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I feel terribly sad (in the I must get out more sense of the word) even saying this so long after the event but I couldn't decide who I wanted to vote for between Will and Gareth so dialled for both. Now this is NOT meant to be provocative but I got straight through for Will but couldn't get through for Gareth even though I tried and tried and never managed it.

I was glad then that Gareth had success as well Will because I thought they were both talented and both deserved it.
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Old 17-08-2005, 22:50
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Steve is a talentless ****.
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Old 17-08-2005, 23:49
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We tried to vote for G4 in the final but kept getting a dead line. We also tried to vote for Aled Jones in the Strictly Come Dancing when he lost to Julian Clary and had the same result.
When I complained I was told that it was probably my phone company as some block those kind of call numbers. That isn't true because I didn't have problems at other times.

Also I suspect when that happens some people try one of the other numbers just to see if they work thereby giving a vote elsewhere!
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Old 18-08-2005, 11:38
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It makes no difference to the TV company who wins. They have nothing to do with the record company. Why fix it?
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