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Spencer?!?!?!?
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zippy999
16-06-2002
Spencers Ok but thats all!I actually like Alex best,although why he falls for Adeles crap and why he wanted to be stuck with lady Sophie i dont know!!!!!
Glasgow Guy
16-06-2002
Well Spencer was my absolute favourite up until last nighth, but after his homophobic comments I've gone right off him. I think he could have gone on to win, but after his comments is unlikely to now.
jobbio
16-06-2002
What did he say Glasgow Guy was it about alex? IF hes made homophobic comment all the more reasons for me to dislike him!
By the way i didnt start the who fancies spencer post!!!!!!
Lee Cool
16-06-2002
Spencer is okay, but hes starting to annoy me, hes a bit rude to people, hes only doing well because loads of immature 15 year olds fancy him.
Glasgow Guy
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by jobbio
What did he say Glasgow Guy was it about alex? IF hes made homophobic comment all the more reasons for me to dislike him!
By the way i didnt start the who fancies spencer post!!!!!!
”

This Jobbio

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...threadid=27109
jobbio
16-06-2002
That was bad, although i'm disgusted at the comments of Adsam or whatever the little pr*cks name is!
maggie
16-06-2002
He was my favourite in the beginning, but now I can't stand him. He's homophobic, a very sore loser, arrogant, and he sits around all day (or sleeps) letting others cook for him and clean up after him.

A nasty piece of work.
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
Spencer - I can't figure out why he applied to be on the show, though it may be as simple as "for the money" I think.

Of the people in the house, he seems the most self assured, where as most BB contestants seem to need some sort of ego building...sometimes disguised behind very brash self confidence (like Alison/Brian?)

Spencer's appeal I think lies in this self confidence and undoubted intelligence along with a surley rebeliousness (James Dean?).

As for his looks, as a man I find women/girls choice of who they find attractive very difficult to fatholm - why I don't get women chasing after me is a constant source of amazement

I don't really beleive in any serious way that Spencer is homophobic. He resorted to remarks against Alex's sexuality as an easy target in his frustration, and I would expect that in a more rational state he'd regret those comments. I've certainly made some very cutting comments against people becuase it's an obvious target in states of anger at times - comments which I didn't beleive, but that I knew would hurt that person, and that I regreted as soon as I saw the reaction it produced...so I would reserve judgement on his real attitudes personally.

I think Spencer last night was pushed almost beyond his endurance with the prospect of another week of nicotine withdrawal, and as an ex-smoker myself I'd forgive people almost anything while going through forced withdrawal! It produces symptoms akin to split personality disorder...see my posts elsewhere about a "nicotine daemon"

What I find interesting is how people will treat a short outburst as "showing someones true colours" in the face of weeks of contrary behaviour?

Also, those that judge Spencer as not doing anything all day obviously don't watch the late night stuff. As a night owl myself I've lived my whole life with smart-alec remarks of "you waste the whole day in bed" and "you're lazy"...I could easily say the same thing as when I'm awake, they're asleep all the time! Just because people choose to sleep on a different time table does not make them lazy....in my view, people that are in bed before midnight, or up before 12 are wasting the night!
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
Oh, and I think the reason I like Spencer most is that he's the only person in there (PJ slightly) that is looking to entertain themselves by trying to mess with BB...which is exactly what I'd be doing...in the same way as prisoners of war films, I'd be looking for cracks in the rules, ways to bend them until they break or have to revise them, and anything else just to make the people outsides job 'interesting'
schwobble
16-06-2002
Spencer has also now got BB by the b*lls, exposing BB's weakness, inconsistency and general all-round lack of control, forcing BB to give in to his threats.

If he can rope enough of the other housemates in with him, anarchy would ensue. That would be fun.
FatBetty
16-06-2002
It's like being in my local when 'pissedup' kareoke is on. And if one more person plays that kazoo ....aaaaarrrrrrggghhghghghg
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by schwobble
Spencer has also now got BB by the b*lls, exposing BB's weakness, inconsistency and general all-round lack of control, forcing BB to give in to his threats.

If he can rope enough of the other housemates in with him, anarchy would ensue. That would be fun.
”

I agree - I loved his comments about the poor quality of the divide lock when BB instructed them to open it before the task. So sarcastic.
Calrissian
16-06-2002
re: Spencer.
He reminds me of a dear friend i once had. Spencer is acutally quite nice really. His cheaky remarks to alex are really just there to poke alex, bug him a little - nothing serious.

Spencer is attractive, he is quiet, doesnt get all rowdy, and sure doesnt act like a fool for the camera. This is why he is likely to win, unless adele somehow turns more voters her way.


** father jack.
RE : Attractiveness.

Generally, most important thing people (usually unconsiously ) is choose the person who is closest in terms of 'attractiveness'.

This is an old theory, the 'matching hypothesis'.
E.g a really attractive girl 'generally' goes for an equally attractive guy. vice versa.
However, its clearly not always the case.
Glasgow Guy
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by fan-at-ic
I don't really beleive in any serious way that Spencer is homophobic. He resorted to remarks against Alex's sexuality as an easy target in his frustration, and I would expect that in a more rational state he'd regret those comments. I've certainly made some very cutting comments against people becuase it's an obvious target in states of anger at times - comments which I didn't beleive, but that I knew would hurt that person, and that I regreted as soon as I saw the reaction it produced...so I would reserve judgement on his real attitudes personally.
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Well, this is a good point fan-at-ic, whilst it can never be an excuse for racist or homophobic comments, it is a possible explanation. I think in retrospect I shall wait and see if he makes any other comments before voting him out. (But he's on a 3rd strike with me hehehehe)
fasttrack
16-06-2002
how can anyone think of spencer winning hes so lazy and boring just like pj
Calrissian
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by fasttrack
how can anyone think of spencer winning hes so lazy and boring just like pj ”

But, you know, the boring people dont annoy as many people, so, they generally make it more often to the last 2-4 people.

Boring can be useful.
Father Jack
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Calrissian
re: Spencer.
He reminds me of a dear friend i once had. Spencer is acutally quite nice really. His cheaky remarks to alex are really just there to poke alex, bug him a little - nothing serious.

Spencer is attractive, he is quiet, doesnt get all rowdy, and sure doesnt act like a fool for the camera. This is why he is likely to win, unless adele somehow turns more voters her way.


** father jack.
RE : Attractiveness.

Generally, most important thing people (usually unconsiously ) is choose the person who is closest in terms of 'attractiveness'.

This is an old theory, the 'matching hypothesis'.
E.g a really attractive girl 'generally' goes for an equally attractive guy. vice versa.
However, its clearly not always the case.
”

Yep, know it well: there is a caveat, as I recall, that "attractiveness" is not confined to good looks, but includes wealth, power, blah blah blah.
In fact we also gravitate to similarly attractive people as friends too.


Jack
I can only assume that I'm so gorgeous that girls are put off
fasttrack
16-06-2002
yes thats true but wouldnt you agree that the more individual and dominant character makes far more intresting television
mavis b sausage
16-06-2002
This is one of the more interesting threads (particular thanks to father jack and -I think- sarah). Spencer has that rather sulkk babyish look that some women seem to go for-not me I hasten to add. PJ is mr. average but I think his troll-like personality seeps through. Alex is not bad looking but too thin and effeminate looking for a lot of women I would have thought.. Jonny is a mate, the sort of bloke a girl can be comfortable with and not feel any great need to sh#g. As for the girls, Adele is beautiful, but I'm not sure about what's inside... Kate is sort of pretty-to-average. Sopie Ican't really comment on as she reminds me of a vey old and dear friend of mine so I am probably biased in her favour. As for Jade, I can't bear to look at her, which in a way bothers me, I have NEVER had such a negative reaction to someone in my life. All I can say is that from peering out between my fingers when she is on she has very good skin-shame about the rest of her (inside and out) As to her mental age, again very difficult, on first sight about 5 but on further viewing I see something much older/darker/cleverer peeping out. A bit scarey really.
Sorry to have yattered on for so long
Mavis B
MustGetOutMore
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by jim4bb
Not as boring as watching Jade repeatedly bounce her boobs up and down whilst adjusting her bikini.

I agree with the postting she is being used as a point of ridicule not just by BB but also by other CH4 programmes like Graham Norton. I used to think GN was funny, but his constant references to pigs etc about Jade are becoming tedious.
”

oink oink chipstick yawn tonsils oink oink

I don't like GN but I do think Farmer's Weekly should get involved in the Jadee discussion
Calrissian
16-06-2002
Yep, know it well: there is a caveat, as I recall, that "attractiveness" is not confined to good looks, but includes wealth, power, blah blah blah.
In fact we also gravitate to similarly attractive people as friends too.


Jack
I can only assume that I'm so gorgeous that girls are put off [/b][/quote]

Hmm. Yes, its the whole persons facets that are important, money is sadly more desired by girls than 'niceness'.

Spencer seems to have a fair amount of most facets, which is why is desired by so many. He hasnt got amazing physical looks, but, he has many other quality features that make him 'rich'.
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by fasttrack
how can anyone think of spencer winning hes so lazy and boring just like pj ”

Boring? Because he's not running round acting the fool? Because he's not making stupid comments betraying a lack of education? Because he's not constantly trying to find ways to make the others hate each other? Because he never seems enthusiastic when not impressed by things?

Or boring because he's got his own view of the world and he's not that bothered if other people share it? Or because he's always up and awake late at night when most little kids will be in bed and missing his conversations? Or because when he does talk to people he assumes they're intellegent and doesn't dumb down, which then means the less intellegent housemates don't follow him and the conversation dies?

As with other BB series, I find myself amazed at the people the public find "boring". It seems that anyone with a brain and who doesn't bounce arround all the time or who is awake at night and not during the day is seen as boring? Why?

Can anyone who finds Spencer boring explain to me why?

Also, there seems to be lots of people who complain that Spencer and PJ 'let Alex and Adele do all the work on the poor side'. This doesn't match what I've seen watching more in the earlier hours and not much in the mornings. My impression has been that Adele and Alex have been asleep most of the time and over occupied with cleaning over and over when they are awake. I've watched Adele wipe the same bit of work top 4 or 5 times over an hour long 'cleaning' spree sometimes. That's not letting others do the work, it's letting others engage in their compulsive obsesive disorder without making a scene over it!

If someone came cleaning round me every few minutes as I sat having a conversation , I'd find it very infuriating. Having shared house with many people over the years I know that everyone has a different level of tolerance when it comes to mess, and whoever has the lowest tolerance will almost always end up doing just about all the cleaning because they hit their threshold before anyone else. Seems to me that's likely what may have been the case with Alex and Adele as both seem to have issues with tidyness and hygine which borders on obsession to me.
fasttrack
16-06-2002
where do you find these accusations about alex and adele they are always up and seem to do their fair share of work cleaning the chickens cage or preparing lunch . where as spencer who sleeps in and isnt hyper is intelligent ! why because he hasnt said anything yet the most weve heard from him has passed through his arse
Father Jack
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by MustGetOutMore


oink oink chipstick yawn tonsils oink oink

I don't like GN but I do think Farmer's Weekly should get involved in the Jadee discussion
”

You forgot boo hoo, "please comfort me " boo hoo etc


jack

xxxxx
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by fasttrack
where do you find these accusations about alex and adele they are always up and seem to do their fair share of work cleaning the chickens cage or preparing lunch . where as spencer who sleeps in and isnt hyper is intelligent ! why because he hasnt said anything yet the most weve heard from him has passed through his arse ”

Always up DURING THE DAY, which happens to be when the chickens need cleaning etc....but they're almost always in bed before midnight which is when I'm often watching till 3am or later.

I've seen Spencer do much more cooking and fire starting etc than anyone else, but again, probably because he's up and about at the same time as I'm watching.

My point is that people judge based on what they see during the day, and assume that because people choose to sleep during the morning/early afternoon they're lazy. I could equally argue that people who waste the night are lazy is my point.

Spencer isn't hyper intellegent - that's not what I said, but he credits other people with some intelligence, and when they fail to even meet that, he can't be bothered to try and explain things...and why should he?

My impression is that the comments he does make very often go over the heads of those in the house as much as they do those watching....the same was true with Dean and Elizabeth in BB2 who were always talked about as boring in forums and the press and yet had me in stitches with the one line comments and little chats late at night.
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