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Biased editing or what!
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Lucytash
16-06-2002
It looks as though Ch 4 are grooming Spencer to be the winner. I really feel like not watching anymore.
Digital.Diablo
16-06-2002
And making PJ out to be the bad guy..
MsCrow
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by Digital.Diablo
And making PJ out to be the bad guy.. ”

pj is the 'bad guy' so to speak, they reflected is disgusting behaviour last night in the right way, spoilt rude little brat he made himself out to be

Ms
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
You're refering to the BB C4 edited version tonight?

I must admit that whilst I think a lot of people on these forums have expressed an extreem view about Spencer and PJ's negative reaction to the disappointment of being in the poor side for another week, the edits tonight really failed to show anything like how bad their reaction was for a short time.

I wonder how much they were forced to edit because of language, but certainly they skipped almost every negative thing Spencer said but kept the flavour of PJ's outburst. I do think Spencer's reaction was much less intense than PJ's anway though, so perhaps it wasn't as bad a distortion as all that.

Didn't you find Alex was portrayed quite badly though? My feeling was that his choices were very selfish given the fact that he could have done the honourable thing and stayed on the poor side on his own, but they choose to show him gloating inter-cut with the others feeling bad....

They also skipped Jade deliberately stiring things (again)...
BBTIME
16-06-2002
I'm glad they got in the bit where Jade was telling Alex that the 'boys' were making him look a fool. It showed her off to be the 2 faced liar she really is.
Very clever tactics on Jade's part - she's bitched about alex and then has won him over by revealing what the boys are doings. She has done the same with Kate, Adele, and Sophie.
Lucytash
16-06-2002
They could have bleeped out the bad language.
I've sent an email to Ch 4 telling them of my disgust & I would suggest that others who are angered by it, do the same!
My daughter, who only watched tonight's show thinks I exaggerated(?)!
Angie Leach
16-06-2002
It's disgusting. Endemol are responsible for the footage shown of C4.

Jade is never shown to be a stirrer. Spencer is only ever shown being mildly funny. Sophie is never under the spotlight, and she is nearly ALWAYS the main focus of the Live streams.

I suppose it's just a business to them. They have the job of making a soap from the characters they've chosen.

It's just a matter of picking the bits they want, to fit in with the theme of the night, rather than showing the bits that really have an affect on the live audiences.

Money, money, money.
Rob the Don
16-06-2002
There is no doubt in my mind that the editing tonight was biased in Spencer's favour. Even showing him going to the diary room to thank BB for the tobacco will make those who didn't see E4 last night think that he is just making the best of his second week in the poor house.

PJ came over more or less the way that he acted - a poor loser.

Makes you wonder.
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
I just remembered too...they failed to explain why Kate was talking about being seen as a 'slag' because the BB security failed to protect the housemates from things being shouted in at them, and how much this upset her....I'm not sure what people will think about her talking about sex and then wanting a pillow fight with Jonny to relieve her "anger" in the light of missing this bit of the jigsaw...
Tracy
16-06-2002
We all know that PJ went off on one last night, and was a lot worse than Spenny but he still got funny none the less. Regardless of the facts, BB totally over looked Spenny's reaction. So, what take on the events will those who only watch C4 get?

They've shown Spenny being a 'cool dude' and thanking BB for his baccy ration, while PJ's going 'postal'. They could have at least left in the part where Alex explained his reasons for not chosing Spenny. His reasons being the snidey gay comments he'd had to put up with.

I dispise this kind of selective/biase editing policy that BB adopts. I'd rather they showed both sides of a person, not the one they want people to believe, just 'cos he's the favourite.

I don't think Alex came out of that episode too badly. They almost made it look like it was Jade's fault as to why he didn't pick PJ and Spenny, which was due to her convo with him the night before. The only bad bit, was when he pushed the washing over. But that was explained, 'cos he had a headache probably due to lack of sleep because of Jade.

Another thing they failed to show was Jade turfing Spenny out of the bedroom to have a shower. This was just after the 'dog s**t' breath part. 'Cos he was stinking the bedroom out.

But, unfortunately, I do think they're grooming Spenny to win.
fan-at-ic
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by Rob the Don
PJ came over more or less the way that he acted - a poor loser.”

Poor loser at the time, but he seems to have recovered his faculties once he'd had a while to calm down.

...I noticed Adele acusing him of scheming because he wanted to apologise for his bad reaction...hmmm, and I'm sure she'd have had plenty to say if he hadn't apologised! Yet again taking the chance to make personal gain from pointing out the faults in others...not an attractive trait...
schwobble
16-06-2002
Re. Jade :- it hasn't worked with Kate. I think she might have gained herself an extra nom.

As for PJ/Spencer, it's touch and go whether they nominate Jade or Sophie. (Would PJ nominate Jade? Sure - he's had his BJ, now he doesn't want to know her. Unless she can be useful to him of course, and this week she can't, coz (a) she's lost the right to nom, and (b) there's bars between them preventing a repeat performance.)
Lucytash
16-06-2002
I would have been interested to hear what Ch. 4's resident pyschs.' interpretations of their behaviour would have been.
schwobble
16-06-2002
If C4 are grooming Spanky to win, then they can't be in league with the bookies, who stand to get stiffed if he goes.

More likely they'd wait until the odds on him shrank to pennies in the £, then turn the cameras/editing on him to show him in an extremely bad light and mash up his chances.

Give it a couple of weeks.
Lucytash
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by schwobble
If C4 are grooming Spanky to win, then they can't be in league with the bookies, who stand to get stiffed if he goes.

More likely they'd wait until the odds on him shrank to pennies in the £, then turn the cameras/editing on him to show him in an extremely bad light and mash up his chances.

Give it a couple of weeks.
”

I hope your right but I don't know whether I can stand to watch it for another 2 weeks! Especially with Wimbledon coming up.
Father Jack
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by Lucytash
I would have been interested to hear what Ch. 4's resident pyschs.' interpretations of their behaviour would have been. ”

They would have said that:

PJ felt betrayed because he thought (for whatever reason) that Alex would pick him. Did you see how happy PJ was when Alex got 25: he thought that Alex would chose him.

I would say:-
Not sure about Spence: he knows he doesn't get on with Alex so quite why he had a tantrum I don't know.

kate may have expected Alex to pick her.

But PJ definitely had the strongest emotion, which was betrayal.

Jack
Wooster
16-06-2002
Never mind people's vendettas with Spencer, I think Adele is getting a very easy ride from the highlights. She is by far the craftiest schemer in the group, constantly sowing little seeds that blow into the rows we see. Wasn't it Adele that got Jade going over Spencer, that led to Jade making unusually perceptive comments about Spencer to Alex and so led to his choices of roomates. Only E4 viewers are getting the true picture with Adele's machinations. It's great watching her at work though!
Angie Leach
16-06-2002
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“Originally posted by fan-at-ic
I just remembered too...they failed to explain why Kate was talking about being seen as a 'slag' because the BB security failed to protect the housemates from things being shouted in at them, and how much this upset her....I'm not sure what people will think about her talking about sex and then wanting a pillow fight with Jonny to relieve her "anger" in the light of missing this bit of the jigsaw... ”

Good point. It was BB at fault for not protecting them from outside influences. As Spencer said, BB ruled "they must not have any outside influences" and he added his own thoughts to it... "except bad ones". Kate just seemed aggressive over being in the poor side.
ria
16-06-2002
... after careful reflection i feel the footage shown has been blatently biased in favour of Spencer ... also felt that the full wrath of PJ was not conveyed adequately ... and worryingly it was indicated that Alex was uncaringly deceptive.

No doubt we'll see PJ grovelling to the new guy and others in the near future!
accidie
17-06-2002
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“Originally posted by Father Jack


Not sure about Spence: he knows he doesn't get on with Alex so quite why he had a tantrum I don't know.

Jack
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He was angry at the thought of being without fags for a week - he calmed down considerably when BB gave him some baccy. He did say that as long as he had something to smoke he didn't mind what side of the house was on. Still, they should have shown his anger as well, because the way it appeared on the highlight was that PJ was just a sore loser when in fact they were both very peed off with Alex.
drama_girly
17-06-2002
I know. I was so angry. Did you notice how the comments that they showed of Spencer were kind of funny ones where PJ laughed at him. It is so unfair. They obviously want Spencer to win. If they had shown even half of the stuff Spencer had been saying people would realise what hes really like
timo_w2s
17-06-2002
Oh relax people. It's a soap opera, not a scientific experiment.
Ashamanic
17-06-2002
When did Spencer show his reaction? The live C4 coverage basically had him saying it wasn't important and trying to get PJ to drop it. If he was angry, it was pretty brief.
pRy
17-06-2002
I do hope those bars come down at the end of this week. I think the longer they are there, the more of a bad idea it becomes.

Regarding BB editing... well they can't really show everything, they need to edit things down. And if one guys reaction was alot worse (and frankly I can't imagine Spencer having a "go" like PJ did) then they are going to obviously show that. If you watch all the BB shows, C4, E4 and the live coverage, you see it all.

PJ's reaction was far worse. I mean, the guy even suggested using violence, and I think I even heard a reference to "pi**ing on him" or something along those lines... I somehow doubt Spencer would have come up with anything to match that. Which is why imo they choose to show it.

Anyway, for this to effect BB, Spencer and PJ would have to be nominated this week, and I doubt that is going to happen. And Spencers rating is alreaddy sky high. He has been the most liked member of the house since day 1.
emma555
17-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Wooster
Never mind people's vendettas with Spencer, I think Adele is getting a very easy ride from the highlights. She is by far the craftiest schemer in the group, constantly sowing little seeds that blow into the rows we see. Wasn't it Adele that got Jade going over Spencer, that led to Jade making unusually perceptive comments about Spencer to Alex and so led to his choices of roomates. Only E4 viewers are getting the true picture with Adele's machinations. It's great watching her at work though! ”

Did anyone see a while ago when they were making their nominations, and Adele came back saying how hard it is to pick people, because she likes everyone, and in the first week she could honestly say there was no one that she thought she wouldn't like. How evil.
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