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Old 21-08-2005, 22:47
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And in particular where the red haired lady came from, and how Mikes son is also Ken Barlows granchild?

Actually the Barlow family tree would be quite enlightening...

I will get a cup of tea ready....
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Old 21-08-2005, 22:59
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hmmm cup of tea has gone cold...
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Old 21-08-2005, 23:01
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The redhaird woman is Mikes Girlfriend and Adam is Kens Grandson who's mum was Peter Barlows sister's kid (she died). She had a fling with Baldwin.
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Old 21-08-2005, 23:03
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Originally Posted by Jamesessex69
The redhaird woman is Mikes Girlfriend and Adam is Kens Grandson who's mum was Peter Barlows sister's kid (she died). She had a fling with Baldwin.
......peter barlows sisters kid....right.

So Tracy must be his auntie.....

and danny is his illegitimate son...
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Old 21-08-2005, 23:07
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Mike married Ken's daughter, Susan (who was Peters twin), she became pregnant but told Mike she had an abortion and left him.
Adam is therefore Mike & Susan's son and Ken's grandson.
Penny the red-head, is Mikes girlfriend (i think they may have also had an affair years ago - not sure).
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Old 21-08-2005, 23:10
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OK here is the Barlow Family Tree

Ken Barlow
Frank and Ida - Ken's parents (both dead)
David - Ken's brother (dead)
Irma - Ken's sister in law
Darren - David and Irma's son, Ken's nephew (dead)
Val - Ken's first wife (dead)
Janet - Ken's 2nd wife (dead)
Peter - Ken's son
Susan - Ken's daughter (dead)
Adam - Susan's son (father is Mike), Ken's grandson
Tracy - Daughter of Deirdre and Ray Langton, adopted by Ken
Amy - Tracy's daugher (father Steve McDonald)
Deirdre - Ken's 3rd and 4th wife
Blanche Hunt - Ken's mother in law (Deirdre's mother)
Daniel Osbourne - Ken's son (mother is Denise Osbourne)

Think thats all the Barlows that have ever been in Corrie!
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Old 21-08-2005, 23:13
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Here is the Baldwins

Mike Baldwin
Danny - Mike's son
Carol - Danny 1st wife
Frankie - Danny's 2nd wife
Jamie - Danny's son (mother Carol)
Warren - Danny's son (mother Frankie)
Susan Barlow- Mike's first wife, Adam's mum
Adam Barlow - Mike's son (mother Susan)
Jackie Ingram - Mike 2nd wife
Alma Halliwell - Mike's 3rd wife
Linda Sykes - Mike's 4th Wife
Mark Redman - Mike's son (mother Maggie Redman)
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Old 21-08-2005, 23:16
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Originally Posted by Coronation St
OK here is the Barlow Family Tree

Ken Barlow
Frank and Ida - Ken's parents (both dead)
David - Ken's brother (dead)
Irma - Ken's sister in law
Darren - David and Irma's son, Ken's nephew (dead)
Val - Ken's first wife (dead)
Janet - Ken's 2nd wife (dead)
Peter - Ken's son
Susan - Ken's daughter (dead)
Adam - Susan's son (father is Mike), Ken's grandson
Tracy - Daughter of Deirdre and Ray Langton, adopted by Ken
Amy - Tracy's daugher (father Steve McDonald)
Deirdre - Ken's 3rd and 4th wife
Blanche Hunt - Ken's mother in law (Deirdre's mother)
Daniel Osbourne - Ken's son (mother is Denise Osbourne)

Think thats all the Barlows that have ever been in Corrie!
goodness me what a lot of deaths! who was denise osborne?? Thanks for that and for the others who answered my query!! Bin bugging me for ages!!
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Old 21-08-2005, 23:16
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Originally Posted by Dibbledooski
And in particular where the red haired lady came from, and how Mikes son is also Ken Barlows granchild?

Actually the Barlow family tree would be quite enlightening...

I will get a cup of tea ready....
The Baldwin family tree is as interesting as the Barlow one .....


Mike alway said he was an only child, for nearly 30 years he said that, and then they suddenly invented a brother and sister, and of course a nephew, Danny - who has now become his son, so he's also got two grandsons now as well.

He was childless for the first 40 odd years of his life, then they gave him a son, Mark, then another son, Adam, and now he's got another son, Danny who apparently was born the year the show started, 16 years before he actually turned up, in 1976!

At this rate half a dozen more will probably emerge before Mike's illness sets in so there'll be a Baldwin family of hundreds fighting for control!

Ken's daughter Susan was married to Mike, so he was Ken's son-in-law. Susan got pregnant, had an abortion. Mike called her a murderer and kicked her out. The writers unaborted the baby and he turned into Adam, who was born in 1988, (making him Mike's son and Ken's grandson) .... which was 5 years after Mark was born in 1983 to Mike's girlfriend Maggie. But they added 2 years to his age so he could turn up in 1991 and be the same age as Nicky Platt, to befriend him and bring him into the Mike-Ken row, because Ken was seeing Mark's mother. So Mark should be 22 now but he's actually 24 and will probably turn up next year when Mike is ill ... only played by someone else cos the actor who played him is in The Royal now!

Clear as anything, really!
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Old 21-08-2005, 23:18
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Originally Posted by Coronation St
Here is the Baldwins

Mike Baldwin
Danny - Mike's son
Carol - Danny 1st wife
Frankie - Danny's 2nd wife
Jamie - Danny's son (mother Carol)
Warren - Danny's son (mother Frankie)
Susan Barlow- Mike's first wife, Adam's mum
Adam Barlow - Mike's son (mother Susan)
Jackie Ingram - Mike 2nd wife
Alma Halliwell - Mike's 3rd wife
Linda Sykes - Mike's 4th Wife
Mark Redman - Mike's son (mother Maggie Redman)
and Mark and Linda had a fling didnt they...
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Old 21-08-2005, 23:19
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Originally Posted by Dibbledooski
goodness me what a lot of deaths! who was denise osborne?? Thanks for that and for the others who answered my query!! Bin bugging me for ages!!
Yes tragedy tends to follow the Ken around a lot. David and Darren, Ken's brother and nephew died in a car crash as did his daughter Susan. His mother was killed by a bus, first wife Val was electrocuted and 2nd wife Janet killed herself when he refused to take her back.

Denise was the original owner of the salon who Ken got pregnant.
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Old 21-08-2005, 23:20
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Originally Posted by Dibbledooski
goodness me what a lot of deaths! who was denise osborne?? Thanks for that and for the others who answered my query!! Bin bugging me for ages!!
Denise Osborne ran the hairdressing salon in the early 90's. Before she opened it it was a charity shop. After she had it Fiona had it then Audrey took it.

Ken was seeing her when Deirdre was away. Annie Kirkbride had cancer and took time off, so in her absense they had Ken and Denise paired off and quickly pregnant. When Deirdre returned and found out, she wasn't happy, reminding Ken of when they had been married and he hadn't wanted to have any more kids, even though she wanted them to have a child together.,

Denise was actually pregnant with twins - another Susan and Peter, God forbid! - but she didn't know that until she had a miscarriage and they discovered she had only lost one baby and was still pregnant.
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Old 24-08-2005, 11:48
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Originally Posted by Coronation St
Here is the Baldwins

Mike Baldwin
Danny - Mike's son
Carol - Danny 1st wife
Frankie - Danny's 2nd wife
Jamie - Danny's son (mother Carol)
Warren - Danny's son (mother Frankie)
Susan Barlow- Mike's first wife, Adam's mum
Adam Barlow - Mike's son (mother Susan)
Jackie Ingram - Mike 2nd wife
Alma Halliwell - Mike's 3rd wife
Linda Sykes - Mike's 4th Wife
Mark Redman - Mike's son (mother Maggie Redman)
And Mikes dad is Frankie Baldwins who was in it in the 70's to 80's.
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Old 24-08-2005, 12:20
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Originally Posted by Dibbledooski
and Mark and Linda had a fling didnt they...
They did indeed, think it lead up to the departure of Linda and Mark, Linda to Dublin (eventually) and Mark to Amsterdam with Leanne. In fact, until Linda turned up alive in Dublin and Mike was able to, presumably, divorce her, Fred Elliott was technically his Father-in-Law as he was married to Linda's mum for a short while (although that may have been a bigamist wedding )

I think I need a lie down now!
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Old 24-08-2005, 17:54
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and apparently when Mike showed up in 1976 he was claiming to be married. But she wasnt his real wife and he soon moved in with Bet Lynch into # 5 - Les' house- and he had the wall knocked down between the 2 rooms.
Irma Barlow was Hilda Ogden's daughter. The actress who played her was the first Nellie Dingle also.
Johnny Briggs had appeared in Coro as a minor character before being Baldwin and had been in Crossroads in early 70s. I saw that on the recent dvd.
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Old 22-07-2016, 17:00
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OK here is the Barlow Family Tree

Ken Barlow
Frank and Ida - Ken's parents (both dead)
David - Ken's brother (dead)
Irma - Ken's sister in law
Darren - David and Irma's son, Ken's nephew (dead)
Val - Ken's first wife (dead)
Janet - Ken's 2nd wife (dead)
Peter - Ken's son
Susan - Ken's daughter (dead)
Adam - Susan's son (father is Mike), Ken's grandson
Tracy - Daughter of Deirdre and Ray Langton, adopted by Ken
Amy - Tracy's daugher (father Steve McDonald)
Deirdre - Ken's 3rd and 4th wife
Blanche Hunt - Ken's mother in law (Deirdre's mother)
Daniel Osbourne - Ken's son (mother is Denise Osbourne)

Think thats all the Barlows that have ever been in Corrie!
Can anyone fill in the last 11 years with the long lost family members?
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Old 22-07-2016, 18:05
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Can anyone fill in the last 11 years with the long lost family members?
Ken had a girlfriend called Susan in the early 60s. She left the street but she was pregnant and gave birth to Lawrence (played by Bill Roache's real life son Linus).

Ken didnt know anything about this till he found an old letter from Susan which was stuck down the back of a cupboard or something

Lawrence had a son called James, played by Bill Roache's son, James.


Meanwhile, Ken's other son Peter was married to a lady called Lucy. He also bigamously married Shelley. Lucy gave birth to Simon. They moved to Australia, but she then died so Simon came to live with Peter.

Lucy's father and his second wife tried to take custody of Simon, throwing money at him. They took him to Blackpool but lost him. Simon made his own way home, and Peter told Lucy's father that he could no longer see Simon
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Old 22-07-2016, 18:32
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Ken had a girlfriend called Susan in the early 60s. She left the street but she was pregnant and gave birth to Lawrence (played by Bill Roache's real life son Linus).

Ken didnt know anything about this till he found an old letter from Susan which was stuck down the back of a cupboard or something

Lawrence had a son called James, played by Bill Roache's son, James.


Meanwhile, Ken's other son Peter was married to a lady called Lucy. He also bigamously married Shelley. Lucy gave birth to Simon. They moved to Australia, but she then died so Simon came to live with Peter.

Lucy's father and his second wife tried to take custody of Simon, throwing money at him. They took him to Blackpool but lost him. Simon made his own way home, and Peter told Lucy's father that he could no longer see Simon
WOW!
I had read about the 2 Roache sons playing Barlow's son & grandson but had no idea their origins dated back so far! Thanks for the comprehensive update!
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