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Jade Goody : A psychological assessment
Calrissian
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For what it is worth (might not be much), here are my current thoughts.
To any readers, your replies/views are always welcome, i've learnt a fair bit from you all....
Jade : RE , last night. Once more, we see our Jade in tears. Yet again, she seems to be using tears as a way to make herself look like the victim.
Looking the victim, a classic case for a person who has very little inner strength.
I have noted before the following...
She cries far more often that is normal for anyone her age.
Often appears to act so very childlike*
* examples : the repetitive singing of a single lyrical sentence.
Accent - baby talk, which she seems to do for no reason what-so-ever.
appears to be in her own little world
Doesnt appear to listen to most of the others.
Appears as lacking basic understanding of social issues.
Often is the case, she fails to remember what she has said, or claims she has been shouted at in 'wrong tone' of voice.
Jade & Drink.
I have become somewhat concerned at this. She seems to drink herself silly more than ever, then ends up so outta her head, with no conscious understanding of what is happening.
Jade & back stabbing ?
I propose that jade lacks the skills.
Q. How smart is she really ?
Is she really as naive as she appears to us all ?
either she is (to be basic about it) ' dumb' or she is the most amazing player in the house. It is one or the other.
Jade's level of I'Q is critical in how we perceive her actions.
I conclude jade is not faking her lack of world knowledge, it'd take too good an actress to pull the role off 24hr's a day. Clealy, she is a little girl, amongst adults, which clearly has great implications for how the house treat her.
After all, the housemates see a child, are they going to stand up to a child ? Unlikely. Are they going to nominate her out ?
The ironic thing remains that many people will perceive her as the victim, with jade remaining in the house for at least another week.
Recommendations...
She should not be allowed to drink. Her behaviour is often that of a young child, she is not mentally stable enough to be drinking.
She should not even be in the house. Clearly, she is losing control of herself, and i can see no way she will choose to stop getting drunk.
Currently, she needs a guardian, to lead her in a positive manner. In the house, there is no such person - since they all meant to be competing anyway.
To any readers, your replies/views are always welcome, i've learnt a fair bit from you all....
Jade : RE , last night. Once more, we see our Jade in tears. Yet again, she seems to be using tears as a way to make herself look like the victim.
Looking the victim, a classic case for a person who has very little inner strength.
I have noted before the following...
She cries far more often that is normal for anyone her age.
Often appears to act so very childlike*
* examples : the repetitive singing of a single lyrical sentence.
Accent - baby talk, which she seems to do for no reason what-so-ever.
appears to be in her own little world
Doesnt appear to listen to most of the others.
Appears as lacking basic understanding of social issues.
Often is the case, she fails to remember what she has said, or claims she has been shouted at in 'wrong tone' of voice.
Jade & Drink.
I have become somewhat concerned at this. She seems to drink herself silly more than ever, then ends up so outta her head, with no conscious understanding of what is happening.
Jade & back stabbing ?
I propose that jade lacks the skills.
Q. How smart is she really ?
Is she really as naive as she appears to us all ?
either she is (to be basic about it) ' dumb' or she is the most amazing player in the house. It is one or the other.
Jade's level of I'Q is critical in how we perceive her actions.
I conclude jade is not faking her lack of world knowledge, it'd take too good an actress to pull the role off 24hr's a day. Clealy, she is a little girl, amongst adults, which clearly has great implications for how the house treat her.
After all, the housemates see a child, are they going to stand up to a child ? Unlikely. Are they going to nominate her out ?
The ironic thing remains that many people will perceive her as the victim, with jade remaining in the house for at least another week.
Recommendations...
She should not be allowed to drink. Her behaviour is often that of a young child, she is not mentally stable enough to be drinking.
She should not even be in the house. Clearly, she is losing control of herself, and i can see no way she will choose to stop getting drunk.
Currently, she needs a guardian, to lead her in a positive manner. In the house, there is no such person - since they all meant to be competing anyway.
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I do not think she will get boos very much, unless she really is caught blatently lying on camera to someone.
The public could well despise her, if the C4 editing is done right.
By the way, it is not sad to be thinking about the housemates on the way to work , its better than thinking of work.
I find it amazing how passionate we can get over people we'll never meet or really know.
However, i believe we can get a good feeling for what they are like in 'real life', despite the falseness of the house situation.
Jade : a child amongst adults
Exactly. From the beginning she over reacted about things, just see her last week when they'd gone over on their shopping budget! She was flying around screaming at the top of her voice without pausing for breath telling everyone they only had 5 minutes to get it sorted etc..in the end it only took about 30 seconds to knock a few things off the list.
Honestly, if I was in that house, there's no way i'd be as calm as Adele was with her. I just think its a shame that noone else backed Adele up, I think everyone feels the same way about Jade, but are too scaredof saying because they're conscious that they're on telly.
She needs to come out, and soon.
I have wondered how she managed to slip through the psychological testing unnoticed.
I think its the fact that they ALL see her as a little girl. They all aghast at her lack of world knowledge ( sherlock holmes, cambridge etc), the issue is that do not want to hurt her pitifully fragile self image.
Look at it this way, they all see her now as a child. Who would want to intentionally hurt a child ? Clearly, Jade can get away with just about any childish behaviour. A sad situation.
She's seen through Adele
Well, heres a thought. If i was the producer, i would want 2 or 3 jades in the house. Makes great entertainment.
Of course, to allow someone of jades mental age in the house, would mean foregoing ALL my ethical guidelines.
Surely they were fully aware of Jades infantile nature, thats what they wanted, and they sure have a classic case of it.
JAde : she must be removed, for her own mental well being.
What do you make of Adele's threats by the way. Has she got a violent temper?
Sarah
re: adele's 'threats'
Nothing surprising there. Anyone seeing someone - abeit a childlike adult, being a total 2 faced, would get mad.
I think Adele is to be commended on confronting jade.
A child needs to be confronted on the bad things they do, as does jade.
- its about the shouting I think
Ah yes, but would you consider threatening a child with violence the correct way to deal with them?
jade should have been removed last night, in my opinion, for her own safety and mental health. Last night's events do not seem to have taught her anything about herself.
Calrissian has made a very clear assessment of Jade (again in my opinion)
What BB were doing letting her in there in the first place is beyond me. It has been mentioned by someone who allegedly knows her that she has been receiving psychological help for some tme. BB must look at someones medical history before choosing them.
It would be interesting to know if they approached her psychiatrist to see if they thought Jade was mentally strong enough to withstand the trials and tribulations of a reality TV show.
I just want her to Leave. I admit, i am often annoyed at her, i however want her out, for her own mental well being.
re: BB psychological screening.
They WANT people like jade in the house, it makes for good viewing.
Do any of you just want a dozen tims ? Jade did not slip through any net, she was chosen !
I hope this is not the case, as I don't consider watching someone fall apart mentally entertainment.
I don'nt consider it nice either. It is fun to see people interact, how they nominate etc.
However, its just awful, to see Jade remain in the house, despite the bouts of crying. To me, she seems on the edge, she needs to be removed.
Seeing anyone who lacks the emotional intelligence suffer is NOT entertaining to me, or i am sure ANY of the contributors of this forum.
Watching the net feed right now, jade continues in her non stop upset talk. She simply is driving herself crazy by remaining there.
For this reason, she needs to be removed.
For what its worth, i would never hit or threaten any child, for any reason.
Wonder why adele was apologising ? Adele said sorry, because she realised once again, that jade has such a childlike nature, that adele probably scared jade a great deal.
Imagine how guilty adele would have felt, seeing this child crying, outta control , so upset. She was bound to say sorry, despite the fact that all the housemates realise jade was in the wrong.
for what it is worth - does anyone think that pulling her out might heap failure on what is clearly an already weakened sense of perspective? clearly she's going to go one of three ways: leave by her own volition, get pulled out by BB, or be evicted... if the first, then at least she made the decision. if the latter, then at least she was not the only one and certainly not in the minority. but if BB pull her out then, cripes, this really might shatter that poor childs mind!
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Then it is reprehensible that they pick someone with a known mental health history. And this warrants investigation.
You can find plenty of people who are interesting etc without resorting to someone who has known problems.
Jade must leave by any means available. I will be communicating my opinion and concerns to BB3. Whatever good it will do though.
You can find plenty of people who are interesting etc without resorting to someone who has known problems.
Jade must leave by any means available. I will be communicating my opinion and concerns to BB3. Whatever good it will do though. [/B][/QUOTE]
Good on you, i suggest others do the same if they so feel.
Anyone can see that she is not normal for her age, and i mean that in as non-attacking a way as possible.
She was sadly chosen for being so childlike.
BB has a professional screening system, they sat down at a table, and decided what 'types' they wanted.
None of the housemates got there by chance, they were all VERY carefully selected for the personalities that they are.