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Jade is a fake
just_the_one
20-06-2002
Nobody on earth could be as clueless as Jade is making herself out to be. Surely to be a dental nurse you must have to have some common sense. She is trying to make herself into another Helen (BB2) and is failing miserably.
Elysium
20-06-2002
She's playing one of the cleverest games in the house.... She's extremely street-savvy and knows how to look after herself.. Observe her switching from one power-base to the next... She'll stab anyone and everyone in their back to survive..
Calrissian
20-06-2002
I have covered this elsewhere, but to be blunt..

Jade lacks the intelligence to be sneaky. She is too dumb.
Sorry, but that is how it is.
just_the_one
20-06-2002
Surely if she was that dumb the producers would not have picked her to go on the show and make a total laughing stock of herself in front of the nation.
Elysium
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Calrissian
have covered this elsewhere, but to be blunt..

Jade lacks the intelligence to be sneaky. She is too dumb.
Sorry, but that is how it is.
”

You can cover it up and down the country - the fact remains that she understands how to keep in favour by adapting her relationships between housemates.. This suggests that she is much more *clever* than people actually make out. Just because she 'appears' to be dumb does not mean that for one moment she is .. I'm sorry, but this is much closer to the truth than some babble youmight have come out with ..
Father Jack
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by just_the_one
Surely if she was that dumb the producers would not have picked her to go on the show and make a total laughing stock of herself in front of the nation. ”

I think you'll find you're talking about MASTERMIND.
The show we're talking about is BIG BROTHER.

Why else WOULD the producers have picked who they did??

jack
MsCrow
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Elysium


You can cover it up and down the country - the fact remains that she understands how to keep in favour by adapting her relationships between housemates.. This suggests that she is much more *clever* than people actually make out. Just because she 'appears' to be dumb does not mean that for one moment she is .. I'm sorry, but this is much closer to the truth than some babble youmight have come out with ..
”

she may feel she's keeping favour but the body language of the HM's in todays program suggest they arnt falling for it, at least not anymore, she's so totally transparent, if she had ANY wits about her she's be far more crafty, as it is, she's just desperate and rather grotesque in her actions

Ms
Father Jack
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Elysium
She's playing one of the cleverest games in the house.... She's extremely street-savvy and knows how to look after herself.. Observe her switching from one power-base to the next... She'll stab anyone and everyone in their back to survive.. ”

Street savvy??
She couldn't get from her house to the high street without ending up in France!!!

jack
Wooster
20-06-2002
I don't think Jade is unintelligent so much as chronically under-educated and immature. She seems eager to learn and I'm sure the people where she works find that she picks things up easily enough that she can hold down her job competently.
Worryingly, I fear she represents a whole new generation of young people who for various reasons are under schooled due to truancy or poor teaching.
On the bright side, it is for people like her that adult education exists.
So no, sadly, I don't think it's an act. Just the way she is, not yet the fully formed person.
Elysium
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by MsCrow


she may feel she's keeping favour but the body language of the HM's in todays program suggest they arnt falling for it, at least not anymore, she's so totally transparent, if she had ANY wits about her she's be far more crafty, as it is, she's just desperate and rather grotesque in her actions

Ms
”

The problem with actions like Jades is that it becomes a pattern and offers no alternative way out; therefore she will continue down the path that has been successful in the past in the (*hope*) that she survive further.. Even if the housemates feel that she is no longer the 'trusting' person that she was.. she *still* serves the purpose of being a 'mole' [of sorts] for PJ.. as she will come running back to her masters with information of what is 'going down' on the opposite side. So, in that respect it is in the best interests of PJ & Spencer for her to remain in the house.. until her purpose has been served.

"Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies even closer.." - The cleverer housemates understand this .. Jade is playing the game better than most, but it can only work for so long..
Rennie
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Wooster
I don't think Jade is unintelligent so much as chronically under-educated and immature. She seems eager to learn and I'm sure the people where she works find that she picks things up easily enough that she can hold down her job competently.
Worryingly, I fear she represents a whole new generation of young people who for various reasons are under schooled due to truancy or poor teaching.
On the bright side, it is for people like her that adult education exists.
So no, sadly, I don't think it's an act. Just the way she is, not yet the fully formed person.
”

That's everything I wanted to say Wooster!

It's as if she knows the basics of the game, indeed life, but doesn't have the knowledge to carry it through.

By trying to stay in with all people is a good ploy but her handling is appalling and she resorts to gossip in a very crass way and is therefore just building herself up for numerous falls (in and out the house no doubt)

I thought she put great effort into the Japanese task tonight - it's a shame there's someone with a level of enthusiasm that the system has bypassed.

Maybe this will be a great learning curve for her
chloe hall
20-06-2002
Jade is just not clever enough to be" playing the game".she is playing on the baby thing just like a child does.Coz they treat her like the baby she thinks she can get away with tantrums.
There is no way a 21yr old can become so dependant on others approval the way she makes out.All shes doing is playing the baby role which for her is easy, not clever.
She is also pretending to be slightly more stupid than she is coz this gets her the attention.
paulh0202
20-06-2002
Alex is now way out favourite.

If you want anyone other than Alex to win you'd be well advised to vote Alex out because if he wins this vote ..... the game is over and the show is dead.
janey
20-06-2002
I accept that Jade isn't the smartest monkey in the mokey house, but she is playing up to the fact. When she says something daft and sees the response she gets from the other HMs she doesn't usually get upset or embarrassed - she usually repeats or exaggerates hers original mistake. She's playing the dumb blonde because it gets her attention - I'm not sure it's a big "game plan"

I just looked on the NHS website as to the qualifications you need to be a dental nurse and apparently you don't!
http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/nhs-kno...data/4671.html
janey
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by paulh0202
Alex is now way out favourite.

If you want anyone other than Alex to win you'd be well advised to vote Alex out because if he wins this vote ..... the game is over and the show is dead.
”

Am I missing something? What has this got to do with Jade?
plums
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by paulh0202
Alex is now way out favourite.

If you want anyone other than Alex to win you'd be well advised to vote Alex out because if he wins this vote ..... the game is over and the show is dead.
”

The thread is about Jade ................
Father Jack
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by janey
I accept that Jade isn't the smartest monkey in the mokey house, but she is playing up to the fact. When she says something daft and sees the response she gets from the other HMs she doesn't usually get upset or embarrassed - she usually repeats or exaggerates hers original mistake. She's playing the dumb blonde because it gets her attention - I'm not sure it's a big "game plan"

I just looked on the NHS website as to the qualifications you need to be a dental nurse and apparently you don't!
http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/nhs-kno...data/4671.html
”

JADE: NO DEGREE IN MEDICINE SHOCKER!!!
just_the_one
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by paulh0202
Alex is now way out favourite.

If you want anyone other than Alex to win you'd be well advised to vote Alex out because if he wins this vote ..... the game is over and the show is dead.
”

What has this got to do with the thread ???
plums
20-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by just_the_one


What has this got to do with the thread ???
”

The guy is SPAMMING any thread he can. Sad............
LadyKnight
21-06-2002
Quote:
“She couldn't get from her house to the high street without ending up in France!!!”

She probably thinks France is just off the high street
Pat Sharpe
21-06-2002
I've been suspicious of Jade's intelligence right from the beginning.

I'm curious of how someone so dumb, can be so intelligent by not telling the other housemates that she was exempt from nominating. I'm fairly certain that Big Brother didn't tell her not tell the other housemates, as Jade had stated.

And some of her comments do seem like she's trying to mimic Helen from BB2.

However, I don't believe that she's a complete fake. Some of her dumbness does appear to be real, (I’m embarrassed to admit that I also thought Cambridge was in London up until last week ) and I agree with Chloe about her playing the 'baby role'.

Jade exaggerates her lack of intelligence to get herself more attention.
accidie
21-06-2002
Strangely it was Adele who told Jade not to tell anyone, as it might go against her. Five minutes later she told Spencer, who told her that he didn't think it made any difference. She followed Adele's advice.
Makum
21-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by LadyKnight


She probably thinks France is just off the high street
”

And the high Street is in East Timor, erm I mean Anglia
SkyeL1
21-06-2002
Quote:
“Strangely it was Adele who told Jade not to tell anyone, as it might go against her. Five minutes later she told Spencer, who told her that he didn't think it made any difference. She followed Adele's advice.”

She also told Alex and Kate though, think Sophie was told also but not 100% sure on that.

Skye
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