So Jade gets circa 18k?

No wonder Britain is in such a state

as an IT help desk advisor .... like hell she does !
get real

yep contract rates for helpdesk staff run around 10-30 per hour
http://www.it.jobserve.com/jobserve/...D157D603A83BE6
for instance, depends on her skill set really

Still I used to hate Kate, knowing I paid more in tax last year than she earnt makes me feel a whole lot better

How on earth has anyone got any idea of how much Kate earns, unless of course they work with her? If it's come from something she told the house, she's hardly going to walk in there and say 'I earn Sod All'. She could be earning tuppence hapenny for all we know and until someone's sees her pay slip (unlikely) it's all a bit random isn't it?

If Kate works on an IT helpdesk as its says in her profile and it's a permanent job, she will get a salary between £17k-£25k.

see for yourself here

Can she program in Java, VB.net, Pascal, C++. I hardly think as a helpdesk girl she earns what you are claiming. It's totally unclear what they mean when she is referred to as an IT Helpdesk girl? This could be anyone from a ISP 60p a minute girl to an advanced programmer. The term "IT" covers a huge spectrum. Half my old college lecturers claimed to be IT lecturers, but they hadn't a clue.

On the live feed she was pretending to answer the helpdesk for One2One - maybe she works there? She also mentioned that she drives a silver BMW (though of course it could be 20 years old)

What makes you thinks shes "hardly going to walk in there and say 'I earn sod all"? Is that a quality of HER or do you feel that pay is something one shouldn't talk about?

Jack
earns sod all

God, this thread is depressing - the thought that Jade earns (potentially) nearly twice as much as me makes me want to chuck my degree and MA into the river and me along after it.
Sheesh, I dunno why I ever bothered......

Diva x

Feeling enormously sorry for herself.......

And earns sod all.........

Interesting that Kate was talking about how badly paid she is on the helpdesk. at 11:22

Anyone know when it was she was saying how much she got paid and didn't get holidays?

Must be a crap degree Diva!

Kate can easily earn 33k as a temp on a helpdesk. I know a lot of our helpdesk staff are on that kind of money, despite not being very good. Or even good.

33k a year translates to a lot less when you consider you don't get holidays (10% off straight away), sick pay, any pension contributions or job security.

Also is she is IR35 she'll be paying two sets of national insurance contributions.

She seems very young to be a contractor. Most contractors would not list their companies earnings as their own, so I would assume that the 33k is either her own gross or net pay (after holiday and sick leave), not her companies. Anyway, there is no company director listed under her name (apart from one in CF4 wherever that is) so I guess she'd be working under an umbrella company.

I'm slightly confused: IF she doesn't get holiday pay, she can't be employed by the company she works for, and she can't be an agency contracted employee, so she MUST be self employed.
If she's self employed, it's meaningless to say she earns such-and-such a year, as she may not be working for a year: so is that figure a guide to what she CAN earn.

So are we saying that she's self employed (as per an earlier post)?

Jack

If she is a contractor then saying she doesn't get holiday pay is not quite true, her client may not pay her company when she is not there, but her own company will pay her when she's on holiday (out of company funds)

Yes that thought is a bit of a downer! In my case, she potentially earns the same as me, as an unqualified person.
I did a 4 year degree to qualify at my job. (I am in Sophie mode again)

However, it is a much more rewarding job than being a dental nurse (as I recall DN to be)

And I find it hard to believe helpdesk operatives get as much as £33k!!

However much I love my job, I sometimes think that some of us are in the wrong ones.

But if she's a contractor, she is her own company isn't she?

I was slightly confused by jackfrost's comment as well.

jack

OK, time to explain how Investment Banks run their IT departments...

most of the staff are contractors, they are usually on rolling 6 month contracts. When things are going well, the contracts get rolled, but as soon as the markets are down the banks can get rid of them far more cheaply than they can permanent (employed) staff. As some form of compensation, the hourly rates are higher, so a contractor may well earn 10-15K more than an employee.

Being a contractor.
You either set up a company with yourself as the director, and invoice the company you work for, or you are self-employed and receive the money directly. My tax exams were a long time ago now, so I won't list the differences it makes!

IT helpdesk...
If this is anything like the ones at my work, the real IT departments ( ie the ones that do the work) are divided up between various systems, server/networking and desktop support. If you need anything doing you have to log a call with the helpdesk first. They then pass the message on to the relevant department.
The helpdesk staff don't need any technical knowledge, but do need patience to deal with stressed/p***ed off people who's computers have just crashed again.

Valky

BC
I happen to know that you're mature enough to know that enjoying your job is more important than simply earning loads

jack
loves his job, earns sweet fanny adams.
(I know that history of that phrase, care to hear it?)

Not quite, her (Ltd) company is a separate legal entity. She will be employee and director of her company. Her company will charge it's clients for her time. She (being in control of her company) can chose how to take the money out, either as a salary or as dividends or as a mixture of both.

That clarifies it for me: she must be a s/e contractor.

Too right about the general helpdesk : I used to work on one and people would go MENTAL and blame ME for the fault, and the faults mostly (or alot anyway) were USER error!! I won't tell you some of the things we used to say about "users"...


jack

Yeah, but I am human and still would like to earn shed loads!

(how mature is that)

Oh and yes please I'd love to hear the history
I just thought someone just made it up to make Sweet F*** All sound polite

I'd agree she's a bit young to be contracting, I started contracting when I was 25, and initially my age was somewhat of a barrier (that was over a decade ago mind) but given that I hired (and fired) 30-40 contractors in my last contract, I doubt I would have take on anyone that young. Depends how she got into contracting, my first contract was at a company that had just made me redundant

I use an umbrella cause I'm a lazy git, and I had one or two disputes with the tax man in the past, when I had confused my money with his money. if quoting my earnings I'd go for the figure off my last P60, excluding my expenses which shows me as having worked about 9 months of last year

We are all assuming the designer gear she has is genuine it wouldn't surprise me if it was of the back of a lorry and she is being ripped off.