She has been cunning and dishonest imo. The following examples spring to mind:

Being really encouraging to Alison then saying "she wasn't black enough" behind her back & nominating her
Telling Kate she was there for her and cheering her up when she was crying then calling her 'dodgy' behind her back.
Stirring things between PJ and Jade by trying to convince Jade PJ is good at influencing people because of his job (even though there's no proof of this)
Saying it's tight to do something with Lee because of his G/F then leading him on - a mixed signal if I ever saw one
Telling Lee he could go after Sophie then voting him off when he did - another mixed signal
Recently her violent threat to Jade that she's knock her out - I think she may have a violent temper and is covering it up

yes, I was 30 this year

M

- how old is Adele btw??

I like Adele too ... shes playing a good game and it would be nice to see a female win. Does anyone know if any females have won in other countries?

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I don't think that any of the examples you have presented justify a poor opinion of Adele.

She was friendly toward Alison and Kate because that is what people should be when they share a house, whether in Big Brother or in the real world. There is no contradiction in being sociable and, when the ever-so-childish Kate was bawling, of offering support, and then actually nominating that person. Would you prefer she just shunned Alison and Kate? Her opinion of PJ, which is accurate, was not meant to refer to his relationship with jade. She did accept that Lee prefered Sophie. Adele nominated Lee because of his absurd dumb behaviour in his final week, it was nothing to do with his attraction to Sophie. Af far as threatening to smack Jade, where is the dishonesty there?

The content of the examples you have given demonstrates that the ill-feeling toward Adele expressed by many Big Brother fans is completely groundless. It is a sheep mentality. Stick a label on and follow the herd.

Adele is heavier than a duck, see it makes sense.

I never follow the herd! If I have an opinion it is soley based on what I see. I have disliked Adele ever since she made that comment about Alison.

Now regarding being sociable, I would agree that you have to maintain relationships in a confined area. However she oversteps the mark and makes people feel like a friend. You don't have to be someone's best buddy if you don't like them, you can be an acquaintance. Or - you can make it clear that you don't like someone and then at least they know where they stand. Sandy did this. I think Adele's approach shows a lack of respect for the people concerned and is dishonest in the sense that she is projecting the fact that she likes someone when she clearly does not.

With regards to poor opinion can you please explain to me why I should not form a poor opinion? Firstly based on the fact that she said that 'Alison isn't black enough'. This clearly demonstrates that she sees people in terms of colour and I think this shows a lack of education.

Secondly I have formed a poor opinion based on the threatening behaviour. I do not condone making physically violent threats to anyone regardless of what they have done. This again shows lack of tolerance and education. You do not resort to violent threats in an argument if you have obtained a degree of respect. This shows dishonesty as she projects a very kind image of herself.

The Lee situation. You have only mentioned the nomination bit. You have not mentioned the fact that she said she would not get close to him because of his g/f yet she got close emotionally. Being unfaithful does not just mean having sex with someone and once again I think this shows the fact that she is naive and has little respect for anyones feelings. It again points to the fact that she is dishonest. Sophie never said anything about his g/f she just went for it and made no excuses.

And finally what she said about PJ is not correct. He probably hasn't been inside a court more than once at 22, let alone argued in one. I wasn't by that age. Again dishonesty because she made it sound like she knew what she was talking about.
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Good God! When are the HM's gonna realise that Adele is two faced. After the task tonight she lied through her teeth to Alex and Jade telling each of them a different story. As much as I think Jade is a pain with all that stupid baby talking I would much rather see Adele go first and get massive boos from the crowd outside.
I hope at leat 4 HM's are up this week including Adele and even if she doesn't get kicked it'll be interesting to see her share of the vote from the public

Does anyone here know where the plane banner with the England/Sweden score came from? Is their a plane banner company that operates within reasonable distance? How strongly do people feel here about Adele

I'd chip in £15 towards a plane banner if it was possible. We'd just need all the other Anti Adele to follow my lead and she would be up for eviction.

Have C4 exposed Adele for what she is though? Davina seemed to want to show Jade talking about Spencer (which Spencer was already aware off) but we had no clips of Adele and her manipulative ways.

Adele has no defence, she has 'em fooled in the house, but this will become harder to do as the group becomes smaller.

*splutters on coffee*!!!!.....A person of Adele's 'type' is generally disliked by people (what's with the young btw, aren't you being a bit presumptious about people's ages in here?) because she isn't trustworthy, she tramples over people's feelings, she lies, she has to persuade people to her way of thinking by slagging off others instead of being a genuinly nice person that others will want to be around....in fact the very people you describe sound EXACTLY like Adele!!.........personally, the conversations I've overheard her having in her little 'tete-a-tetes' remind me more of what I overhear in the playground on occassion.....and I'm a 40yr old teacher.........I've seen more maturity in a class of 6 year olds than I've seen from Adele and her little band of followers.........

There was a bloke called Nelson, who was famous for saying

'Ships? I see no ships!"

it's not working at this end I'm afraid to say

your posts are both overwritten and boring

yeah, i noticed that too. i was hoping that she would highlight the adele situation more, but she just breezed through it this time. but she has highlighted it before though, during lynne's eviction, alison's eviction and lee's eviction. they all exclaimed their complete shock and disbelief about adele's behaviour. lynne commented that she was "disapointed" with adele. lee has since said he has changed his mind completely about adele now after he's seen what she's really like and the things she was saying about him and sophie behind his back, when previously she told himshe would have "no problem" if he made a move on sophie. if sophie is evicted on friday though, the adele thing is gonna go right through the roof when sophie sees all the BITCHINESS that has been coming from this adele creature. [sorry had to get that one in, i really don't like adele as you can tell] sophie knows jade doesn't like her, but adele on the other hand has been pretending that she's sophies friend and then letting rip with untold bitchy insults behind her back. her inability to control her jealous streak will eventually lead to her downfall. i didn't think it was possible for a girl to be so much of a bitch. adele and jade have taken bitchiness to new heights.

go easy on him kegger

the guy obviously gets picked on in real life so he has to strike back somehow - via these forums

it's rather sad when you think about it

"Overwritten and boring". That's a shame. Ii thought I was simplifying my argument to take into consideration the aptitude of the readers.

Perhaps anyone who feels sensitive to criticism can find a nice counsellor to talk to.

Try to see the bigger picture.

Jezza, sorry if you opinion isn't based on Adele's DR comment, but I haven't seen Adele refer to race on any occasion other than that time in the DR, where she said that:

i) She thought Alison was disappointed not to be the only black girl.
ii) Alison might have wanted to be ' special ' (unique) in that way.
iii) That she (Adele) sometimes likes to feel that ' special ' sometimes too.

Personally, I have no problem with Adele disliking and commenting on any of the others. It'd be a fluke to like/love 12 strangers after 4 weeks. My only problem is that she is effusive in her surprise at nominations and evictions. She seems to forget her part in all that. Then again, I suppose she has to disguise this, as by comparison Spencer and Jade were very quickly onto Jonny's guilty reaction in the same circumstances.


On another note, I don't know how anyone could see any of the HM as evil machiavellian masterminds. They're trying to survive in a gameshow and a Sandy said ' They're called housemates...but they're not your mates ' .

Too much vitriol for my taste.

you see !

you can't do 2 things at once. You concentrate on your ironing.

Let those of us with insight discuss the real issues

Don't you have to be nominated and have one of the top two nominations from your fellow housemates before you are up for eviction? In that case she is playing to a good game plan. I feel that if she was there til the end and it was between her and Jade or indeed some of the other HM's, I think Adele would win.

great idea!

to answer you q., i believe the plane banner for the england/sweden result came from carling. good luck. she's gotta go!!!

Hello,

Firstly I don't see Adele as an evil machiavellian mastermind. I just don't like her. Don't hate her, but don't particularly like the things she has done as I mentioned previously.

Regarding the race thing, I wouldn't have based it solely on that. She confirmed that she sees things in terms of Colour when she was going through lees Photos of his g/f. The first thing she asked was whether his g/f was black or mixed race and the tone and manner of the question was one which showed a great deal of interest in this fact - far more than is healthy. I'm not personally impressed with this being the first thing someone asks about another person given the wide range of things she could have asked.

Sorry Jezza if it looked like the machiavelli thing was about your opinions - it was just a general comment about the outer limits of the Adele-haters club !