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Old 23-06-2002, 18:18
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The reason a woman has struggled to win Big Brother is because the producers of the show select the women carefully. They avoid picking women with intelligence. There are only two criteria for female contestants: 1) they must be a bit dumb, and 2) it would be preferable if they are pretty.

Channel 4 finds it politically-inappropriate to promote intelligent women.

I notice that people who constantly rant on about lack of intelligence are usually lacking themselves. Kind of a deflection strategy

or to quote you 'like follows like'
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:20
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Originally posted by epicurus


The reason a woman has struggled to win Big Brother is because the producers of the show select the women carefully. They avoid picking women with intelligence. There are only two criteria for female contestants: 1) they must be a bit dumb, and 2) it would be preferable if they are pretty.
he he. which are the pretty ones - could see a lot of blokes liking her but the others...

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Old 23-06-2002, 18:20
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Originally posted by epicurus


The reason a woman has struggled to win Big Brother is because the producers of the show select the women carefully.

Channel 4 finds it politically-inappropriate to promote intelligent women.
Well, it's only the British BB that women haven't won. Elizabeth was pretty intelligent, but the producers tried to undermine her by setting her up as boring. Yet, every week the evicted HM said how important she was to the house.
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:21
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i agree
I do too

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Old 23-06-2002, 18:22
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Well, it's only the British BB that women haven't won. Elizabeth was pretty intelligent, but the producers tried to undermine her by setting her up as boring. Yet, every week the evicted HM said how important she was to the house.
Your comments about the producers is correct, although I disagree with you about Elizabeth. I thought she was a weird country-bumpkin......
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:24
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Originally posted by jon72



I notice that people who constantly rant on about lack of intelligence are usually lacking themselves. Kind of a deflection strategy

or to quote you 'like follows like'
There is a well-known concept used in arguments. It is called logic. That passed you by.
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:25
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2 BBs = 2 male winners? OMG thats impossible!!

ok then, it must be a conspiracy.
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:28
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There is a well-known concept used in arguments. It is called logic. That passed you by.
makes sense to me

which parts are you having trouble with?
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:31
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Originally posted by epicurus


There is a well-known concept used in arguments. It is called logic. That passed you by.
ok then epicurus
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:35
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People don't like Adele becuase it reminds them how dumb they are???

mmmm

I don't like Adele because I've seen her kind of behaviour before and I don't like it, its sneaky. I've been on the receiving end.
I'm intelligent enough to recognise it

People who come into forums and berate others by criticising their intelligence usually have an axe to grind (ie lacking in the grey matter themselves) IMO

follow the logic of that?
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:41
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Originally posted by epicurus


Adele won't win and she doesn't think she can win. She just wants to stay as long as possible. All the astonishing remarks about her are just manifestations of that perculiar kind of spite that emanates from the intellectually inferior. Like folows like. The dumb support Kate and Alison, they are your type. Adele is not liked because she reminds people how dumb they are.
hello... since you have already stated elsewhere that adele is your favourite person, it comes as absolutely no surprise whatsoever that you choose to support her to the very end, even going as far as to claim that those who dislike her must be somehow "dumb". what a fool you must be to assume this mr or mrs epicurus [whoever you are]. "intellectually inferior" my a*se! it is quite revealing that you find the comments to be "astonishing" since they are comments accurately derived by carefully studying your beloved adele's 2 faced behaviour since DAY 1! you cannot dispute adele's 2 facedness, bitchiness, jealousy etc, because it is clear for ALL to see, the evidence presents itself right before your very eyes and has been recorded on tape, so just what the hell are you on about MR. or MRS EPICURUS???!! i assume you are not blind? in which case you should also have identified that all the so-called "astonishing" comments that have been made about adele are nothing else but the simple TRUTH! and we all know how the truth hurts don't we. adele is a VERY jealous housemate, and her jealousy is the root cause of much of her bitchy behaviour. jealousy of girls who are far more attractive to the males she desires than she herself is. adele is the type of person you can never trust, for fear of a good stabbing in the back. she is mighty good at that, along with her puppet-on-strings jade. if you cannot handle the truth, then maybe it is YOU mr or mrs epicurus, who is intellectually inferior. next time, come with some real facts to back up your argument instead of you feeble attempts to play the "dumb and dumber" card. HA! now who's the fool EPICURUS, or whatever the hell your name is? dont talk such nonsense unless you can back it up with actual facts that have happened that prove adele's goodness and just why it is that she is so nice. so come on then, tell us just what is it that she has done that has convinced YOU that adele is so nice?
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:44
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You gotta admit epicurus, M&M is right about you talking a load of drivel.
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:44
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Originally posted by epicurus
The question may be why I bother to contribute to this message board whilst ironing my work shirts. The answer is to wind people up, and another success there. .
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:46
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Oh right, hehe fair play to him then
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Old 23-06-2002, 18:52
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No if you read the transcripts of the other night, Alex was quite sticking up for her, and told them to stop it as she could probably hear what was being said.
telling them to be quiet cos she would hear them is not the same as sticking up for her. alex and adele have become too complaisant about getting away with things and bbs yet to pull them up.

why are bb molly-coddling them - esp. adele whose talked nominations several times.

all four involved in the rich bedroom bitch and plot against sophie should be banned from noms this week.

i'm not a sophie fan but i'm fed up of bbs inequal treatment of rules offenders.

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Old 23-06-2002, 18:55
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Originally posted by Deerd


telling them to be quiet cos she would hear them is not the same as sticking up for her. alex and adele have become too complaisant about getting away with things and bbs yet to pull them up.

why are bb molly-coddling them - esp. adele whose talked nominations several times.

all four involved in the rich bedroom bitch and plot against sophie should be banned from noms this week.

i'm not a sophie fan but i'm fed up of bbs inequal treatment of rules offenders.

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i agree with you completely.
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Old 23-06-2002, 19:00
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is there a rule against plotting and bitching though, deerd? if so, i'm not aware of it
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Old 23-06-2002, 19:05
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m&m - can you or anybody else work out why bb are behaving as if alex and adele can do no wrong. have they picked the winners already ?

and before anybody else starts this is not a conspirarcy theory it's just thst i'm at a loss!!!
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Old 23-06-2002, 19:08
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Originally posted by Delch
is there a rule against plotting and bitching though, deerd? if so, i'm not aware of it
fari play not as far as i know. but there is a rule against influencing nominations and i think much that adele, in particular, has said has crossed the line.

she gets away with whispering - others have been pulled up for this!!!!!!!!!
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Old 23-06-2002, 19:13
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Epicurus got out of the wrong side of bed today!

You can have a go at me now too coz I can't stand Adele for the same reasons as everybody else has mentioned, Jade also. I've never liked Jade but Adele has took over as the person I despise the most in the house, in fact I think I must dislike her as much as you seem to dislike Kate.

Everytime someone makes their opinion of a housemate known someone always has to jump on them about it....the fact is that everybody has one person they like the best and one they really don't like and so there's always gonna be someone who doesn't agree with someone elses opinions. You like Adele, some don't..get over it!
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Old 23-06-2002, 19:18
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Wherever did anyone get the impression that Adele was intelligent? She's as thick as most of the others - she probably looks fairly clever because she spends all her time wirh jade, and jade would make a defective light-bulb look bright.
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Old 23-06-2002, 19:26
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Originally posted by BlueEyes
Epicurus got out of the wrong side of bed today!

You can have a go at me now too coz I can't stand Adele for the same reasons as everybody else has mentioned, Jade also. I've never liked Jade but Adele has took over as the person I despise the most in the house, in fact I think I must dislike her as much as you seem to dislike Kate.

Everytime someone makes their opinion of a housemate known someone always has to jump on them about it....the fact is that everybody has one person they like the best and one they really don't like and so there's always gonna be someone who doesn't agree with someone elses opinions. You like Adele, some don't..get over it!
in my house adele isn't called by her given name - you just have to refer to b**** face and everyone knows who your talking about.

it still amazes me that she flew under the public radar for as long as she did - and the other HMs are only just beginning to realise. about time too.

i'm not a fan of psyche but a friend of mine commented that the people we choose to like reflect our personally. and before epicurus gets in a dig i'm sure this doesn't apply to intelligence merely thngs like sensitivity, compassion and honesty etc.

i hate adele draw your own conclusions
some like adele draw your own conclusions

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Old 23-06-2002, 19:57
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adele and jades bitching towards sophie is all due to jealousy.

week two
alison and johnny were the first main twosome. adele and jade began their bitching towards them.
result = alison evicted

week three
lee and sophie got close and adele and jade did not like it.
result = lee evicted

week four
spencer and kate got close.
result = spencer evicted.

week five?
sophie and kate (the only two girls next)
result sophie nominated.
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Old 23-06-2002, 20:00
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m&m - can you or anybody else work out why bb are behaving as if alex and adele can do no wrong. have they picked the winners already ?

and before anybody else starts this is not a conspirarcy theory it's just thst i'm at a loss!!!
hmm...i'm not sure about that really. i don't know anything about if they can actually "pick" the winners themselves at all, i would think this would be unlikely feat for them to achieve. but here's what i have deduced about alex and adele from what i have seen thus far:

i think with alex it's got to the stage now where people seem to like him so much now that even when he does do wrong, people will just shrug their shoulders now and just ignore it, as they find him the most entertaining housemate and do not want to condemn him because of that, even when he has done wrong. this is understandable. unless he does something REALLY mean or totally out of order to someone in the near future, i think it's probably clear now that alex has already won this game or will eventually win it should i say. with adele on the other hand, it's a very different story. i think jade's blatant stupidity was diverting the attention away from a lot of adele's mischievious and downright ugly behaviour. some people seem to have been watching out for the next stupid thing that jade was gonna come out with so much, that they were sometimes missing the subtle and conniving ways adele has been trying to influence other people's perceptions of certain housemates. at the moment adele has her sights simultaneously on sophie, jonny and kate. she is gunning for them BIG TIME. sophie in particular. this is definitely down to 2 things: jealousy and bitterness. i believe adele is still very bitter inside about the way lee found sophie more attractive than her, so the jealousy is still burning deep within her. you can tell that by the way she is constantly bitching about sophie behind her back non-stop, and then coming back to talk to her like a friend to her face. she is being very spiteful with some of the comments she is making about sophie, who in reality has done nothing to adele to warrant this level of abuse. and yet this bitch adele continues to aim cheap shots at the most attractive females in the house, whilst attempting to take out jonny too in one fell sweep. she is doing a hell of a lot of bitching behind their backs, an unbelievable amount in fact, which somehow was initially being missed by some people due to jade always hugging the stage with her foolishness. but thankfully, i have noticed a sharp turn in opinion now whereby from almost nowhere so many people have now wised up to adele and have seen the clear pattern of behaviour that this girl has been displaying. it is a pattern of jealousy, deceit, bitchiness, and downright 2 facedness, which astonishingly can be traced back to THE VERY FIRST WEEK!! thats right. right from the very start, this has been adele's behaviour, one based on backstabbing, lies, manipulation and most of all jealousy. bb's role in all of this, as you rightly point out is very questionable. by now, adele should have at least 2 strikes against her. but funny how bb choose to ignore her misdemeanors, eh? perhaps you are on to something i really cannot tell, perhaps bb are trying desperately to turn alex and adele into another helen and paul situation, who knows. but in my estimation, adele is a complete fraud. she is not genuine at all as far as i can tell by what i've seen of her thus far. if that is bb's plan, it simply will not work. the difference in this scenario will be that when adele does leave the house, she will probably receive an almighty crescendo of boos ringing out loud in her ear-drums. a loud chorus of disapproval. then she will have got her just desserts when she realises just how unpopular she really is in the REAL world. and serves her right! on a final note, as i mentioned, alex will be the only winner from this show unless he somehow manages to eff it all up now by doing something TOTALLY stupid which would turn people against him. can't see that happening personally.
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Old 23-06-2002, 20:06
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Originally posted by m&m


hmm...i'm not sure about that really. i don't know anything about if they can actually "pick" the winners themselves at all, i would think this would be unlikely feat for them to achieve. but here's what i have deduced about alex and adele from what i have seen thus far:

i think with alex it's got to the stage now where people seem to like him so much now that even when he does do wrong, people will just shrug their shoulders now and just ignore it, as they find him the most entertaining housemate and do not want to condemn him because of that, even when he has done wrong. this is understandable. unless he does something REALLY mean or totally out of order to someone in the near future, i think it's probably clear now that alex has already won this game or will eventually win it should i say. with adele on the other hand, it's a very different story. i think jade's blatant stupidity was diverting the attention away from a lot of adele's mischievious and downright ugly behaviour. some people seem to have been watching out for the next stupid thing that jade was gonna come out with so much, that they were sometimes missing the subtle and conniving ways adele has been trying to influence other people's perceptions of certain housemates. at the moment adele has her sights simultaneously on sophie, jonny and kate. she is gunning for them BIG TIME. sophie in particular. this is definitely down to 2 things: jealousy and bitterness. i believe adele is still very bitter inside about the way lee found sophie more attractive than her, so the jealousy is still burning deep within her. you can tell that by the way she is constantly bitching about sophie behind her back non-stop, and then coming back to talk to her like a friend to her face. she is being very spiteful with some of the comments she is making about sophie, who in reality has done nothing to adele to warrant this level of abuse. and yet this bitch adele continues to aim cheap shots at the most attractive females in the house, whilst attempting to take out jonny too in one fell sweep. she is doing a hell of a lot of bitching behind their backs, an unbelievable amount in fact, which somehow was initially being missed by some people due to jade always hugging the stage with her foolishness. but thankfully, i have noticed a sharp turn in opinion now whereby from almost nowhere so many people have now wised up to adele and have seen the clear pattern of behaviour that this girl has been displaying. it is a pattern of jealousy, deceit, bitchiness, and downright 2 facedness, which astonishingly can be traced back to THE VERY FIRST WEEK!! thats right. right from the very start, this has been adele's behaviour, one based on backstabbing, lies, manipulation and most of all jealousy. bb's role in all of this, as you rightly point out is very questionable. by now, adele should have at least 2 strikes against her. but funny how bb choose to ignore her misdemeanors, eh? perhaps you are on to something i really cannot tell, perhaps bb are trying desperately to turn alex and adele into another helen and paul situation, who knows. but in my estimation, adele is a complete fraud. she is not genuine at all as far as i can tell by what i've seen of her thus far. if that is bb's plan, it simply will not work. the difference in this scenario will be that when adele does leave the house, she will probably receive an almighty crescendo of boos ringing out loud in her ear-drums. a loud chorus of disapproval. then she will have got her just desserts when she realises just how unpopular she really is in the REAL world. and serves her right! on a final note, as i mentioned, alex will be the only winner from this show unless he somehow manages to eff it all up now by doing something TOTALLY stupid which would turn people against him. can't see that happening personally.
My word, that was difficult to read. It seems that the children are starting to get worried. You shouldn't worry. Adele won't win, Alex will. It was only ever a fight between Alex and Spencer. The reaction to Adele becoming more confident about expressing her intellect have demonstrated that there is a rancid malaise amongst the Kate-fans. A malaise that is probably incurable.
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