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Old 16-09-2005, 00:24
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Does anyone here know if they are they any good? I am fed up of my high electricity bills and my husband doesnt want gas put in as he says its too dangerous (he works away from home and is convinced we'd all blow up if we got gas). We have a large draughty open plan house which is hard to heat and I wondered if these log-burning stoves were any good. I'm even looking at slightly more drastic options such as solar panels and even our own wind turbine, you can get huge grants for installing these, but need to research more.
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Old 16-09-2005, 00:31
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dont know about wood burning stoves but i have a multi fuel burning stove with a back boiler all my heating and hot water are run from it

it can burn coal, wood, coke, anthracite, old shoes you name it we burn it

i have a large victorian terraced house and my fuel bills are a quarter of the rest of the street who are on gas or electricity
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Old 16-09-2005, 08:25
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Take a look at the Whispergen, they run on gas but you can also get rebated diesel-powered variants.
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Old 16-09-2005, 08:53
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Hi jazzyjedart. I'm a fan of wood-burning stoves . I have a Scandinavian one (check out Jotul) in my living room, which is a bit of a barn, and it does a really good job.

An obvious warning - if you have small children, it must have a guard around it. They get incredibly hot, and will take the skin off a misplaced hand.
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Old 16-09-2005, 08:59
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I used to have a wood burning fire ... and loved it - got myself burned a couple of times too.

I'm presuming you live in the middle of nowhere with no gas mains connection which means you are looking at calor gas (or similar). I would say that its safer for you and children to have the calor gas installed .....

As well as being safer, its cleaner inside the house too. You need a lot of logs/wood to keep a fire going on a wood burner.
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Old 16-09-2005, 09:37
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I dont want a stove to run a boiler off or hot water etc. or run it off gas. I just want a heater that will heat the main body of the house. All the stoves I've looked at look so small I dont think they look capable of heating a large area.
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Old 16-09-2005, 19:00
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Woodburning stoves generate a surprising amount of heat, so don't be tempted to get one that's too big. Ask for help at your local supplier.

I've got a 3ft "Franklin" multifuel stove, which gives out way too much heat for my livingroom. I ended up leaving a big empty space at either side, which looks silly with the doors open. If I filled the grate, it set fire to the logs stacked in the inglenook!
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Old 17-09-2005, 11:13
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www.charnwood.com ours is brilliant.
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Old 17-09-2005, 11:48
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Wood-burning stoves are just fine provided you have access to a decent supply of wood.

I don't have a stove at the moment, but I lived with one for about ten years and they're quite hard work if you're going to use them as your main source of heating.

First of all, you'll need a lot of wood to see you through the year. Are you going to cut it yourself or buy it from somewhere? If you're going to cut it yourself, you'll need access to woodland, a chainsaw, a large trailer, and quite a lot of time and energy. A tractor would be handy too. Some areas of the woodland may be awkward to get into as well, so you may need to haul wood out to a more accessible point.

It isn't good to just cut the wood and burn it straight away, since (I believe) it is liable to produce acids that will damage your chimney and may not burn very well anyway. (Ash wood is said to burn well when it's green, though.) The wood should therefore be seasoned out of doors for several months or better still, for more than a year. Do you then have enough space in a shed or outbuilding to store the large quantities of seasoned wood that you'll need? I guess that to keep you going for most of the year you should be thinking roughly in terms of completely filling a garage with wood from floor to ceiling to provide an adequate supply, though of course that will depend on the size of your stove.

All that means that there's a lot of work involved in cutting the wood, hauling it out of the woodland, leaving it to season for a while, splitting the bigger logs, and then stacking it under cover till you're ready to use it.

If you're going to buy wood, you need to be sure that it's good stuff. Has it been seasoned properly? Is it from a type of tree that provides good, hot-burning firewood? I used to be supplied with wood for free; while some of it was very good, some of the other stuff produced little heat, or was too damp to burn properly, or else burned away very rapidly.

I'm inclined to think that wood-burning stoves are seen by some people as part of a sort of romantic rural idyll. In reality, they're hard work. If you're going to buy the wood, I'm not altogether sure that they'll save you much money either.

Of course, if you're simply planning to use your stove for a bit of extra background heat or because it looks nice (which they do), then there'll be a lot less work involved.
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Old 17-09-2005, 12:08
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Originally Posted by Jazzyjedart
I dont want a stove to run a boiler off or hot water etc. or run it off gas. I just want a heater that will heat the main body of the house. All the stoves I've looked at look so small I dont think they look capable of heating a large area.
There are plenty of stoves that will be capable of heating a large area. Have a look at these sites, though there are bound to be many others:
http://www.dowlingstoves.com/

http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_b...el-Stoves.html

However, the bigger the stove, the more wood it will need!


Edit: Having thought about the matter a bit more, I quite fancy getting a stove again, particularly as the cost of fuelling my oil-fired central heating is becoming frightening. However, if I do get a stove, it'll be solid fuel rather than wood. Wood's just too much hassle — unless you have your own woodland.

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Old 17-09-2005, 14:11
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Originally Posted by Sigurd
Wood-burning stoves are just fine provided you have access to a decent supply of wood.

I don't have a stove at the moment, but I lived with one for about ten years and they're quite hard work if you're going to use them as your main source of heating.

First of all, you'll need a lot of wood to see you through the year. Are you going to cut it yourself or buy it from somewhere? If you're going to cut it yourself, you'll need access to woodland, a chainsaw, a large trailer, and quite a lot of time and energy. A tractor would be handy too. Some areas of the woodland may be awkward to get into as well, so you may need to haul wood out to a more accessible point.
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I'd like a gas heater but I don't want to go out at sea, drill holes in the seabed, run a pipe from there to my house...

Cutting wood yourself is better than wasting money on a gym card. You do need to let it dry for a year because water doesn't burn, so what ? Let it dry.

Stoves are great. Yes they're hot (surprise surprise fire is hot), you can buy wood ready to be burn.
However don't expect to be warm in the morning, you'll need to get up at 6 to light it up again, and in the evening too if no one is home during the day.
Also it's a bit messy around the stove usually. And they only heat one room on the same floor, the rooms upstairs will be warm as heat goes up, but the ones on the same floor not so much, nothing is stopping you from having a wood (or coal) burning range cooker in the kitchen that you can use to cook and heat.
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Old 17-09-2005, 14:20
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Originally Posted by Jazzyjedart
Does anyone here know if they are they any good? I am fed up of my high electricity bills and my husband doesnt want gas put in as he says its too dangerous (he works away from home and is convinced we'd all blow up if we got gas). We have a large draughty open plan house which is hard to heat and I wondered if these log-burning stoves were any good. I'm even looking at slightly more drastic options such as solar panels and even our own wind turbine, you can get huge grants for installing these, but need to research more.

Gas heater don't blow up that often if they're checked every year. There is a safety that cuts off the gas supply if the flame goes out. You probably have more chance to be in a car accident.
And you can tell hubby it's better if it blows up while you're out than in.
And can't you do something about the draughts first ?
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Old 17-09-2005, 15:42
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Where I used to work my boss installed a wood burner in the workshop as we did woodwork and had lots of waste to burn.
I seem to remember him having a lot of trouble with tar which ran down the flue and seeped down the outside of it - it didn't look very pretty.
I asked him whether I should bother to get one in my house and because of the tar problem he advised me not to.
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Old 17-09-2005, 16:37
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i have a multi fuel burner, which is brilliant and i love it, and doesnt take long to clean out. it belts out loads of heat and i have found i dont have to put my radiators on as often... my cats love it to, i wouldnt be with out it. you just cant beat real fires...

i would say multi fuel is a better option as you have a choice of what you can burn on it,

the only down side is when you have to sweep the chimney, (gets a bit messy)

but all in all i would highly recommend one
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Old 17-09-2005, 21:41
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We have a jotul which I love (can't wait for the chilly nights so we can light it again)
We don't have any other heating and it heats the whole of our openplan house. However, as we live on a farm we have access to as much wood as we need which Mr É coppices and cuts on his sawbench.
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Old 17-09-2005, 22:26
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I had a woodburning stove with a back boiler that gravity fed radiators in my bedroom this was all in a log cabin. It was great. cutting the wood was great fun. and when I used to be out around the site. I could leave a soup or stew on top of it and when I got in it was hot and I could just spoon it out and eat it. mmmmmmmm great.
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Old 18-09-2005, 01:21
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Pellet stoves are the most efficient and least harmful to the environment.
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