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What do people think of PJ these days???
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zippy999
25-06-2002
I never really took much notice of him.Thought he was a bit boring,lacking personality etc.But since Spencer left he seems to me to have got it together and i actually quite like him now.What does anyone else think?
Wooster
25-06-2002
His recent reaction to the gossiping sessions he has to endure has raised his profile in my eyes. Now, if only he would be a man and confront the whispering witches!
lisatanner
25-06-2002
I like PJ he is cool, and he isn't blind to Adele and Jade's bitching!

PJ THE WINNER!
clarribo
25-06-2002
He is occasionally funny and then I think he's ok but most of the time he's a sexist pig.
Oh and he was saying he wishes he was back on the poor side last night cos he's bored on the rich side! As my boyfriend says "Only boring people get bored"
Babycatcher
25-06-2002
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“Originally posted by clarribo
He is occasionally funny and then I think he's ok but most of the time he's a sexist pig.
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Took the words right off my keyboard there
Gill32
25-06-2002
I was going to post about this last night

I'm beginning to like him too even though I spent the first 4 weeks thinking he was sooo boring and wishing he could be nominated and then evicted.

Just shows how people hold back when they think someone else is a stonger character (Spencer).
lisatanner
25-06-2002
I think if he won BB he would be wicked to watch and I reckon he would be in shock as well, PJ isn't up his own ass! ok he might of been a bit out of order to Jade but so bloody what!

what else has he done to make him out to be a sexist pig? explain your reasons?
Rennie
25-06-2002
If what PJ was saying to Jonny last night (how he has learnt he is immature etc) has really sunk in I'll give the guy a lot of credit. He has fallen out with Alex in the past made up, fallen out again and has now really studied the situation and realsied he was childish at some points, at others he just has a natural conflicts of ideals with Alex and he is now able to forge a good, working maturity with Alex. That shows great maturity, something missing elsewhere in the house. Jonny could learn, his on going paranoia that Alex still doesn't like him is unfounded and pointless.
Elysium
25-06-2002
He's still the same old bore that he ever was - the only difference now is that he's got no one to hide behind and therefore needs to find a replacement... He's aware that he can't make that much of a connection with Alex [ they are worlds appart, remember .. Jonny said Alex would get his head "kicked in" if he came down the "pub" with his "mates" ] .. So Jonny the "canny cheeky, everyone loves him .. why wouldn't they" lad is the one to gamble on..

lest we not forget he's a "woman beater" too .. or have you forgotten about that, possibly you "identify" with it in your social circle of friends..?
stenoboy
25-06-2002
I also find it suspicious the way he said "Vaseline" when they were doing the word-association game in reply to "homosexual". Stupid idiot. He needs to get his sexuality sorted, because I think he's got real issues. Plus how dense can you be to not know that Vaseline will rot a condom in two seconds flat?

We're seeing an unreal version of PJ because he's on the rich side, and he's well fed and content. Wait until he gets hungry again, or wait until there's some hardship, then the nasty side will bubble up again. I think he's improved over the last couple of days, but he's basically NOT a nice bloke. Something sinister.
EvilWillow
25-06-2002
PJ is a misogynistic selfish snivelling scumbag. I can't tell you how much I dislike the man.
EvilWillow
25-06-2002
Here's some evidence, from his own vile mouth, to back up my earlier posting ...

PJ is going to seriously abuse women after he gets evicted.

All the women in the world want to go to bed with him.

He mimicked holding Jade's head down when telling Jonny and Kate about the BJ.

He told Jonny and Kate about the BJ.

He refers to female genital parts as 'burger lips'

Give me time, there's loads more
EvilWillow
25-06-2002
Sophie: "You shouldn't go with your best mate's girl."

PJ: "I've never been with a best friend's girl. Well, I have, but he doesn't know. No, just messing - it's second-hand anyway. I don't want second-hand goods,"

Sophie: "Would you go out with your girlfriend's best mate?"

PJ: "I have done, yeah, My girlfriend's housemate. I'd never go with my best mate's girl. With my girlfriend's best mate, that's fine. I know it's wrong, but I won't lie. I've done it, but I've learned my lesson. I won't do it again... I only did it three times, I got caught because her best friend was also her flatmate. It was quite difficult. I was seeing both of them for about a month. It was great. She used to come round my house, the best mate, and say 'Oh Peej...' and just hop on. Get kippers out for you."

he has been cautioned by the Police for domestic violence

oh yeah and:

PJ: "I'm so gonna have a hotel room I so am.. if any of the lads out.. just staying with me that night.. and get some totty back.. really abuse them, proper abuse them"

He's sooooooooooooo ghastly.
Double
25-06-2002
Too true Evilwillow, thanks for that. He's the same old tosser with a full stomach, and a vile example of a man.
EvilWillow
25-06-2002
There's more ...

"Meanwhile, PJ told her he got into bed with her because he was drunk. He called her a "SEVEN-PINTER", adding, "I didn't get naked in you bed before because I wanted to Roger you, I did it coz I was P***ed" <taken from Metro>

Also, last night his explanation for moving out of Jade3's bed was that he didn't want people to think he was INSIDE her.

<pukes over keyboard>
spencer_g
25-06-2002
I think PJ is a top bloke from what I've seen. He has a decent sense of humour and isnt a complete ponce like Alex or Tim. Good lad!!!
dtc
25-06-2002
EvilWillow,

Jeez, you have some issues, don't you? I take it you're the same vile example of man-hating, misandrist scum from the Guardian boards?

I think the real problem you have with PJ is that you're a bitter man-hater and you're simply directing your f*cked up emotions at PJ.

Let's consider PJ's "crimes":

Sexual relations with Jade, whom he later dumped. So, you're suggesting that no woman has ever slept with a man and deeply regretted it afterward? And then cruelly dumped him? F*ck off and get real! Happens all the time, but hey, women are allowed! It's cool! We deserve it!

PJ and the seven pinter joke - what, he's not allowed a f*cking JOKE? Which Adele initiated? Chill out! - PJ has made a lot of "sexual" jokes, but that does not make him a woman hater, for Chrissakes. It just means his sense of humour differs from yours (assuming you have one, of course).

The 'inside her' comment - he meant that people in the real world (which you clearly are a stranger to) might get the wrong idea. What's your problem?

"he has been cautioned by the Police for domestic violence" - says who? If he has, I'll condemn him same as anyone else, but do you really believe everything you read?

PJ: "I'm so gonna have a hotel room I so am.. if any of the lads out.. just staying with me that night.. and get some totty back.. really abuse them, proper abuse them" - does he not just mean "give them a good seeing to"? Crass and ill thought out, admittedly, but face the fact that there are plenty of women out there who see men in exactly the same way - a quick shag. But they're cool and enlightened, aren't they? And I’m pretty convinced he’s not talking about luring someone back to a hotel room and violently assaulting them – get some perspective!

Going with his girlfriends best mate - again, women (in your narrow world) are incapable of this, aren't they? Believe me, it happens to men too. But we probably deserve it, eh?!

He refers to female genital parts as 'burger lips' - and women don't make snide, nasty remarks about male genitalia? "Size matters" blah blah blah. For God's sake! I note you haven't criticised Jade and Adele for discussing the male members’ members. Course not - again, that's cool, not sexist.

Christ, you misandrists make me so ill - hiding behind words such as misogyny, sexist, woman-hater etc. Easy isn't it, because most men just sit back, cowed, and let you get away with it.

PJ may have faults, but your incessant, vitriolic, nasty, man hating slating of him is vile.

Sexism works the other way, you know. Get help - you've got real problems, lady.

Last edited by dtc : 25-06-2002 at 13:19
spencer_g
25-06-2002
I agree with DTC. You guys take things too seriously. He is speaking in slang terms/figure of speach Do you really think that he's going to go and lirerally ubuse women?? Does the phrase "She was filthy in bed" usually mean that she is covered in filth? NO! He's just being laddish in the way he speaks.
dtc
25-06-2002
EvilWillow,

Just checked out some of your pearls of wisdom from the GU thread:

"That selfish ******* pig PJ"

"Probably does - the size of his *****, it's the only way the poor woman would know"

Hypocrite, aren't you? I don't know, disparaging comments about male genitalia! But hey, that's cool, you're a woman.

Nasty piece of work...
Clarey
25-06-2002
PJ who - oh yeah that useless one who does nowt - what is he there for?
dtc
25-06-2002
Cheers, spencer_g.

What you're seeing in action is the equality hypocrisy - when men make jokes about women, or do anything that may offend their sensiblities, they are sexist misogynists.

However, when women make jokes about men, or betray them, or any other actions that would be vilified in men, they're cool and 'celebrated' by the media. Girl power - an excuse to sh*t on men and not have to face the consequences.

Can't win!
BlueEyes
25-06-2002
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“What you're seeing in action is the equality hypocrisy - when men make jokes about women, or do anything that may offend their sensiblities, they are sexist misogynists.However, when women make jokes about men, or betray them, or any other actions that would be vilified in men, they're cool and 'celebrated' by the media. Girl power - an excuse to sh*t on men and not have to face the consequences.”

Hey!! don't tar us all with the same brush
dtc
25-06-2002
BlueEyes,

Apologies to any sane, fair minded ladies (I'm married to one, thankfully) out there. I do not mean for one moment to tar you all with the same brush.

Those who hide behind the Shield of Girl Power know that I am addressing them and their hypocritical ways.

Apologies again!
SandyB
25-06-2002
I couldnt understand how he has avoided nomination because he is neither use nor ornament. He does seem to disapprove of the bitching going on but it would be nice if he defended Sophie.
BlueEyes
25-06-2002
Thanx DTC
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