Who would know if they was or wasn't , to me, all the people that have been nominated so far have been totally unexpected, Alison and Spencer was a complete shock and ecspecially Alison didn't deserve to go so early, the lines are fixed and I am not even bothering to vote anymore!

what a fantastically (in every sense of the word) thought out argument! thanks!

Iain

you being sarcy mate?

Can't imagine why anyone would be sarcy about that argument...

If there is any fixing by far the most likely source is to do with the betting. Bookies have reported large (and somtimes suprising) swings.

If and it is a big if the BB producers are ignoring the results of the phone lines (and I don't for a moment think that they are) don't you think they would be rigging other things - nominations - how hard would it be to rig those - you could tell each HM to nomitate 3 this week - for whatever reason - censor any comment about this from the feeds and choose the 2 you liked best. That way you wouldn''t have the 2 favourites going head to head mid series.

The producers do seem to try and keep things as tense as possible and I do buy the theory that the coverage is biased to produce a close a result as possible but I think that BB does play broadly by the rules.

Also consider - unexpected to you may well be competely expected to the impartial observer - I don't like Adele for example I find her manipulative and duplicitous BUT there are lots of people out there who would like to see her win - if she came up for eviction and didn't get thown out I would be astonished that no one had seen through her - it would not make the vote rigged though


spoon

Yep I'd agree with that, Spencer's vote would probably have been much the same as it was, but without the positive edits in the C4 showing, I doubt Alex would have had anywhere near the support he got. It's in BBs financial interest to make the contest as tight as possible, and to encourage the multiple voting

They don't seem fixed to me as everyone i have voted for so far has been evicted
Neither Alison or Spencer were a shock eviction to me, as i had voted for both of them

Davina always used to say "the votes have been counted and verified by an independent adjudicator" although these days it seems to be just "the votes have been counted and verified".

if its fixed its because big brother read these forum first and go with the flow....since Iv found these forums I just read whats going on in here to know whos gonna be evicted.....

The phone votes are audited by the Electoral Reform Society.

If there is something dodgy going on it's the way that Graham Norton straight after the nightly show has been telling people how to vote and RI:SE in the morning has too. It's one thing to express an opinion but RI:SE last week especially, with it's "Keep Alex In" campaign was way too biased for what should be a news based program. Considering so many people are making bets on the show such blatent attempts to influence the result overstep the mark.

yes

regarding *fixing*....there have been threads in this forum slating BB for being unfair by showing Alex in a more favourable light, as well as threads slating BB for being unfair by showing Spencer in a more favourable light - clearly you can't all be right!

I put it to this forum once again, that, in fact, all the producers are doing is showing everyone at their most entertaining, and, in fact, any suspicion of *fixing* is based entirely on personal biased opinions of who people prefer in the house.

Thank me later

Iain

Rare words of wisdom!

It gets soooooo tiring reading posts from people claiming that the highlights show discriminates against their favourite housemate.

Nearly as tiring as the housemates themselves talking about everything depending on the way Channel 4 chooses to portray them in the highlights show.

While both shows are C4 owned, the producers/presenters do get to intervene as they wish.

It's no surprise, hello!, that Graham Norton would support Alex after a series of homophobic comments by Spencer's crowd. Notice that Norton chooses to have who he wants on his show (that means no Lees, no Spencers - but yes Lynn, Allison) (And I'm sure no Sophie, no Adele, no Kate etc.)

For RI:SE, they had Spencer's brother (or friend) who based the pro-Spencer campaign on prejudice ("Alex is as camp as a row of pink tents). Firstly, this was saying don't vote for Alex because he's gay (he's not, but that's another matter). Secondly, like who won last year's competition! Thirdly, media people (many of whom are also gay or gay friendly) aren't too thrilled with the line Spencer's crowd took. Notice that RI:SE immediately went to Narinder asking if the commentator was also gay - functionally this was RI:SE saying f***-you to Spencer's bro.

It wouldn't surprise me if the media got behind Sophie, since she's been bullied, just like a lot of them have been (it's a profession that has a lot of bullying in it as well).

Again, think about what kind of people actually work in the media, then you'll see why they support who they do. It's not a fix, media folk support people they think are like them.

Didn't GN have Lee on right at the end of one of his shows last week?

Lee was on Graham's show last Thursday and I suspect Spencer will be on it this Thursday if not before.

Skye

graham norton fancies Alex!

Originally posted by iain

Is that why daily E4 has now become Alex cam???

AKA Cock cam? *sniggers*

<MA>

and he doesn't like Jade!

why thank you - I try sometimes....

i does amaze me how so many people are so convinced its all a set up.

also - people who are sooooooo shocked when they think people are being two-faced - they may well be two-faced,but there's no need for the *bitch* or *bastard* tag to go along.

lets not forget it is a competition to win £70k, and the HMs went into the house now knowing any of the others, so owe each other diddly squat in terms of friendship.

Ho hum,
Iain

Oh I so agree Iain! I am fed-up of the aggressive comments and tags attached to some of the opnions of people. Also of the aggressive replies to some of the forum posters by people who just happen not to agree.

As you say it's a competition to win quite a large sum of money (well, it is to me!) It is also people who have no prior knowledge of each other, cooped up in an enclosed environment 24/7 for 7/8 weeks (or whatever it is). Backstabbing and so forth is bound to go on. It happens in accommodation-share situations in real life, where people may have an outside release for grievances andfrustrations. In the BB house, there is nowhere to go except the Diary Room. (And a fat lot of use that seems to be!)

So why didn't Anna win then?

I'm sorry but as far as I'm concerned everyone who has gone so far has deserved to go - except maybe Spencer but I would be saying the same about Alex if it was him. To say that Alsion didn't deserve to go is ridiculous, for me she was up there with Jade as the most annoying human being I've ever seen on TV - now please don't get me wrong when I say this, I have nothing against 'fat' people in everyday life, but as far as Alison goes she went way over the top... when Kate did her dancing in front of the cameras it was fine, she could move and she's good looking. When Alison tried to dance in front of the cameras it was unsightly and incredibly annoying, I cringed to high heaven and had to turn away I was getting so incenced by her. It's sort of the same situation as a homosexual (and no I am NOT a homophobe, I have no probs with them at all) i.e. when a homosexual is overtly camp it really starts to nag on me and makes me cringe, if they would act normal it would be absolutely fine and people would totally accept them for what they are... it's when fat or homosexual or stupid people (Jade)go out of their way to 'enhance' their 'special' characteristic, that they start to become unacceptable. I would like to think that the fact Alison got voted out shows that most people are with me on this one... so are you?! Go on tell us what you really think, did you hate Alison because she was fat, annoying, over the top and in your face? I did. Do you hate Jade because she's incredibly thick, ignorant, ugly and over the top? I do. There you go, I said it.

The phone lines aren't fixed. The producers decide who they want out from those nominated!!!

Alison's eviction is a prime example of this. The producers obviously didn't think that she fitted in, and I'd have thought that they where concerned about how much the bill for breakages would be also.

Alex should have gone that week, but he didn't because the producers wanted to ensure that there would be entertainment from within the house. The hygiene incident in the first few days was always gonna get contestents backs up.

As for this week of nominations, Davina did let the cat out of the bag....A little unprofessional Miss McCall...

you can't and will never be able to please everybody!!!

christ almighty!!!!

stop it. please................

Iain