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Jonny showing his true colours in Diary Room earlier..
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Elysium
25-06-2002
It was interesting to see Jonny showing his true colours in the DR earlier, regarding his need for better quality tobacco.. in the form of ready made cigarettes; not the “roll your own” kind Big Brother had donated to his cause [remember, he’s on the poor side] .. fortunately his pleas were ignored with the forthright "you don't need to smoke it do you Jonny... {pause} ... Is that all you wanted?" ..

This episode did his cause no good at all .. especially when he slammed the door on leaving the diary-room.

The longer he’s deprived of his [favoured] Camel cigarettes the better… his mask might fall further during the next day or two..

He’s finally showing his true colours and this pretentious faker should be removed from the house as soon as possible. Sophie is far more promising with her battle of the bulge [Jade] ..
Darklight
25-06-2002
the guy was p****d off because he has to spend another week in the poor side, and the roll ups are really really cack.

I'm not surprised at his reaction, it aint a case of "true colours", more case of losing it (most Hm have lost it at some stage). If you are using this as evidence that he should be voted out, you obviously have little evidence to justify youtr opinion of him

By the way I will be voting for Jonny, just to P** off the smirking Jade.
MichelleS
25-06-2002
oh how terrible his true colours are that he smokes and gets riled over denial.......most smokers do!
How on earth might this compare to adeles true colours.......dark dark black
and jades...........
A_different_Bob
25-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Elysium
It was interesting to see Jonny showing his true colours in the DR earlier, regarding his need for better quality tobacco.. in the form of ready made cigarettes; not the “roll your own” kind Big Brother had donated to his cause [remember, he’s on the poor side] .. fortunately his pleas were ignored with the forthright "you don't need to smoke it do you Jonny... {pause} ... Is that all you wanted?" ..

This episode did his cause no good at all .. especially when he slammed the door on leaving the diary-room.

The longer he’s deprived of his [favoured] Camel cigarettes the better… his mask might fall further during the next day or two..

He’s finally showing his true colours and this pretentious faker should be removed from the house as soon as possible. Sophie is far more promising with her battle of the bulge [Jade] ..
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Youre talking completely out of your arsehole. I take it youre not a smoker. When ive had to smoke rollups it really gets me coughing and hurts my throat. The guy is on the poor side again, is obviously missing his family too. He's the most genuine person in the house. What makes him a 'pretentious faker' id love to know.
haggisbaws
25-06-2002
He usually smokes Menthol ciggies, no wonder he is getting a sore throat wi the rollies confused:
chuff
25-06-2002
He must be a bloody rainbow, with the amount of true colours he has.
mromega
25-06-2002
Has Jonny been given Filter tips by Big Brother? Going from smoking filter cigarettes to unfiltered rollups will rip at your throat. Jonny has already said that he has never smoked rollups before.
Elysium
25-06-2002
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“Originally posted by DEADDOG
the guy was p****d off because he has to spend another week in the poor side, and the roll ups are really really cack.

I'm not surprised at his reaction, it aint a case of "true colours", more case of losing it (most Hm have lost it at some stage). If you are using this as evidence that he should be voted out, you obviously have little evidence to justify youtr opinion of him

By the way I will be voting for Jonny, just to P** off the smirking Jade.
”

The argument is valid because the man has made much of being ‘at one’ with himself and all of the other housemates; measured temperament, not showing his real self but rather the ‘character’ that he feels will win him the show. In this instance the need for his favoured tobacco brand caused the real Jonny to appear. He possibly thought that he could ‘get away with it’ in the diary-room and that such things would not be shown .. fortunately Big Brother wished to ‘educate’ the viewer to another side … one that people need to see in order to make an informed choice on who should go.. His Mask is slipping .. regardless.. add to that the nominations and we might just see him break even further..
A_different_Bob
25-06-2002
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“Originally posted by Elysium


The argument is valid because the man has made much of being ‘at one’ with himself and all of the other housemates; measured temperament, not showing his real self but rather the ‘character’ that he feels will win him the show. In this instance the need for his favoured tobacco brand caused the real Jonny to appear. He possibly thought that he could ‘get away with it’ in the diary-room and that such things would not be shown .. fortunately Big Brother wished to ‘educate’ the viewer to another side … one that people need to see in order to make an informed choice on who should go.. His Mask is slipping .. regardless.. add to that the nominations and we might just see him break even further..
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Youve obviously got a prob with Jonny. His minor outburst pales into insignificance compared with those of other housemates.
Please grow up Elysium.
Darklight
25-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Elysium


The argument is valid because ...
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other posters have said it all.
Elysium
25-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by A_different_Bob

His minor outburst pales into insignificance compared with those of other housemates..
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Remember, he's the one acting like the child and slamming doors, not me
SugarHiccup
25-06-2002
Elysium............whatever YOU'RE on..........half the dose, eh?
Wishful
25-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Elysium


In this instance the need for his favoured tobacco brand caused the real Jonny to appear. ..
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Elysium, as other's have said, maybe you have never smoked. As a smoker who did give up cold turkey, but sadly returned to it eight years later, it does terrible things to one's moods. If I have been putting on a mask for most of my life, only to have it slip while I was giving up smoking, then I heartily apologise to my nearest and dearest!

Jonny didn't ask for his favourite brand (that we were shown), he simply asked for ready prepared cigarettes. Going from normal fags to roll ups is hard on the throat, but I also used to smoke menthol cigarettes, and the move to regulars is hard enough.

Many psychologists may disagree with me, but I think that smoking, and the giving up of it, does have quite a serious affect on the mind, I'm not sure that Big Brother should be messing with that!
Jackie
25-06-2002
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“Originally posted by A_different_Bob

Youve obviously got a prob with Jonny. His minor outburst pales into insignificance compared with those of other housemates.
Please grow up Elysium.
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Elysium's problem with Jonny is he obviously thinks he is a threat to his beloved Alex. If Jonny does go he will soon find another target, probably Kate.
Lucytash
25-06-2002
I'm not a Jonny fan but I am a smoker & if I smoke ANY other cigarette other than my regular brand, I get a sore throat. I think BB are out of order on this one.
A_different_Bob
25-06-2002
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“Originally posted by Elysium
He’s finally showing his true colours and this pretentious faker should be removed from the house as soon as possible. Sophie is far more promising with her battle of the bulge [Jade] .. ”

This shows how Adeles manipulation even influences people outside the house. 'Pretentious faker'??? What ?
Little Ali
25-06-2002
All he did was ask for proper fags!! Elysium, go buy an ounce of Old Holbourn, smoke it with no filters, and spend the rest of the week sounding like Mike Reid.

Ali
smokes proper fags
FaceAche
25-06-2002
What about some of the reasons for nominating Jonny?? He p*ssed in the shower, I'd rather be here with better people(bullys to me and you) from Alex.

Jade just did what Adele (nothing wrong with the BNP) programmed her to say, that he's 'being false' and 'acting' which is a bit rich coming from ittle ittle cutie ittle baba. And Tim, he's just a smug snobby nobhead who has obviously bought his 4 week old opinions with him into the diary room (maybe he's peeved with the fact Jonny wiped the floor with him at the Newcastle auditions). One too many w*nkers in the house this year

Viva la Jonny
callie
25-06-2002
He's in a no win situation, first he's accused of not being himself and now he's showing his true colours just because of the cigarettes. Roll up's must be one of the worst thing to smoke and l would have thought if only for health reasons that BB would have given him proper ciggies. Blimey there's not much else on that side as it is. l hope he survives this week as l think it will renew his confidence. Don't believe Adele's hyped up rubbish about playing for the cameras, just cause he's not bitching about everyone like the rest of the rich side. l think he had a hell of a shock when he was nominated and then Sandy's parting words were the last thing he needed. l feel sorry for him, he deserves better.
cerberus
25-06-2002
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“Originally posted by Lucytash
I'm not a Jonny fan but I am a smoker & if I smoke ANY other cigarette other than my regular brand, I get a sore throat. I think BB are out of order on this one. ”

How are they out of order? They don't have to give him anything at all, and if he'd really really wanted fags he should have made sure that everyone on the rich side had some packed so that he'd have some if he was on the poor side again. I can understand him asking for what he usually smokes (Berkeley Menthols I think) but would any of you expect BB to give in to him?

Tim was worse though, whinging on about toothpaste. "well I didn't pack crutches either, but if my leg fell off I'd expect you to help me"
Father Jack
25-06-2002
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“Originally posted by cerberus

How are they out of order? They don't have to give him anything at all, and if he'd really really wanted fags he should have made sure that everyone on the rich side had some packed so that he'd have some if he was on the poor side again. I can understand him asking for what he usually smokes (Berkeley Menthols I think) but would any of you expect BB to give in to him?

Tim was worse though, whinging on about toothpaste. "well I didn't pack crutches either, but if my leg fell off I'd expect you to help me"
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What was it that Spencer wanted? Baccy when there wasn't any? I don't know. If they aren't treating Jonny the SAME then they ARE out of order. If not, then not.

Howvere, seeing as the spineless pussies that are the BB "moderators" seem to cave in to almost every demand, they might as well give jonny his tabs. Or did they only cave in to Spencer....?

jack
oldgit
25-06-2002
Cut the guy some slack, 2nd week in the poor side and the last thing he needs to hear (or any smoker needs to hear) is some sanctimoneous bitch (or bastard for that matter) tell them that they don't have to smoke it's BB not the bloody Betty Ford Clinic.
Totally at one with him. Just because he's in the poor side there's no need to be totally unsympathetic I think it's probably more to do with that git of an "assistant producers" personal attitude to smokers than the BB policy of providing for the poor side HMs health needs, btw hand rolling tobacco is the worst type .should have given him Silk Cut normally takes 2 weeks to get used to them.
Before I get hammered by the people from ASH this posting is not an invitation for a smoking policy debate (each to his own)
but a comment on BBs poor handling of a HMs reasonable request Jonnie felt strong enough about it to be-little himself in there now thats courage.

" And curse Sir Walter Raleigh he was such a stupid git "
cerberus
26-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Father Jack


What was it that Spencer wanted? Baccy when there wasn't any? I don't know. If they aren't treating Jonny the SAME then they ARE out of order. If not, then not.

Howvere, seeing as the spineless pussies that are the BB "moderators" seem to cave in to almost every demand, they might as well give jonny his tabs. Or did they only cave in to Spencer....?

jack
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They gave Spencer tobacco and fag papers in his second week in the poor house, and they've done the same for Jonny. I was asking why they are out of order for not giving Jonny the fags he wanted, because I can't see how.

I wouldn't have said the attitude was sanctimonious (sp?) either, Jonny was whinging and they were making a perfectly fair point. He could have stayed and argued, didn't have to walk out.
accidie
26-06-2002
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“Originally posted by cerberus

They gave Spencer tobacco and fag papers in his second week in the poor house, and they've done the same for Jonny. I was asking why they are out of order for not giving Jonny the fags he wanted, because I can't see how.

I wouldn't have said the attitude was sanctimonious (sp?) either, Jonny was whinging and they were making a perfectly fair point. He could have stayed and argued, didn't have to walk out.
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They are being consistant. Spencer won the argument that for a smoker cigarettes were basic supplies and should be provided. BB provided rolling tobacco in keeping with the rich/poor ethos. Jonny has been provided the minimum to keep his addiction going. I can unnderstand him being p*ssed off though.
emma555
26-06-2002
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“Originally posted by oldgit


" And curse Sir Walter Raleigh he was such a stupid git "
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Yay, Beatles!

Anyway, Elysium, are you epicurus in disguise? Elysium, epicurus.... not that dissimilar (sp.?) are they? Also, you both HIGHLIGHT IMPORTANT WORDS FOR US imbeciles that are too stupid to understand that Jonny SLAMMED THE DOOR. Oh no!!! Jonny slammed the door!!! He's obviously evil and needs to be stopped!
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