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Kate "the Fighter"
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LoNDoNcaLLiNg
26-06-2002
I am really impressed with Kate. She went to the diary room to have her cry, (she must have been choking with temper on Saturday night) Not one of the other's would have reacted the way she did.She just gets on with thing's on the poor side,as much as she hate's it
She is showing all the Attribute's I would look for in a Friend.
I would pick her to be on my side in a fight any time. All the other's except Jonny, would sell you down the river.
Becca
26-06-2002
I agree London! Although I have liked Kate from the beginning, I have really warmed to her since she moved over to the poor side. She doesn't moan like some of the others do, she just gets on with it, and she hasn't been babyish about Alex picking her, not like PJ who had a go at Alex when he chose Sophie to be on the rich side last week. And I feel sorry for her because after being nice about it, Alex still chose PJ to be on the rich side but not Kate. She should win!
Alrightmate
26-06-2002
LOL.

Yeah she copes alright.

She bangs her head on the coal casket and drops her sunglasses, and you know she was thinking, "Alex you bastard".

Starts crying, and within a couple of days of her Spencer leaving she's got Tim's arms around her.
Everyone's around her fussing over her and the opportunity is there....."Why didn't Alex pick me to be on the rich side".
You're either crying 'cos you banged your head and broke your sunglasses, Kate, or you've just changed your mind and it's about Alex.......again.

Jonny and Kate seem to think that Alex is their arch-nemesis with some devious master plan.

The reality is that Alex is Frank Spencer, and is more bothered that everyone doesn't pick on him again.

The funny thing is that Jonny and Kate are winding themselves up about Alex, Alex isn't even trying.

How many times have you cried about someone you met just a for a few weeks.

Kate is a kick-boxer on the outside. How do you think she could do that if she cried everytime she got in the ring.

Kate is a fighter, but not in the way you think she is.

Jonny wouldn't sell anyone down the river?
He told a couple of people last night of how it was wrong of Jade to go to the rich side after Alex picked her.

He said Jade should have offered her place for Kate to go instead of her.
How can that happen? Fact is, Alex picked Jade(whether you like her or not). End of story. You can't decide against the picker, it's their priveledge.
If Jade did swap her place with Kate, how fair is that to everyone else.
Surely you're not manipulating people to think that Jade was wrong to join Alex after fairly being picked are you Jonny?

I'm sure he felt he was noble and chivalrous and wouldn't sell anyone down the river.

I think he should have thought that one through before taking on the role of public avenger.

I'm not suggesting Jonny and Kate supporters suddenly stop supporting them. But I am saying that they are not as angelic as you think. Be objective a little won't you.

At least the Adele supporters have acknowledged her failings after the bitchiness to Sophie.

All the top players have shown different sides to themselves.
LoNDoNcaLLiNg
26-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Alrightmate
LOL.

Yeah she copes alright.

She bangs her head on the coal casket and drops her sunglasses, and you know she was thinking, "Alex you bastard".

Starts crying, and within a couple of days of her Spencer leaving she's got Tim's arms around her.
Everyone's around her fussing over her and the opportunity is there....."Why didn't Alex pick me to be on the rich side".
You're either crying 'cos you banged your head and broke your sunglasses, Kate, or you've just changed your mind and it's about Alex.......again.

Jonny and Kate seem to think that Alex is their arch-nemesis with some devious master plan.

The reality is that Alex is Frank Spencer, and is more bothered that everyone doesn't pick on him again.

The funny thing is that Jonny and Kate are winding themselves up about Alex, Alex isn't even trying.

How many times have you cried about someone you met just a for a few weeks.

Kate is a kick-boxer on the outside. How do you think she could do that if she cried everytime she got in the ring.

Kate is a fighter, but not in the way you think she is.

Jonny wouldn't sell anyone down the river?
He told a couple of people last night of how it was wrong of Jade to go to the rich side after Alex picked her.

He said Jade should have offered her place for Kate to go instead of her.
How can that happen? Fact is, Alex picked Jade(whether you like her or not). End of story. You can't decide against the picker, it's their priveledge.
If Jade did swap her place with Kate, how fair is that to everyone else.
Surely you're not manipulating people to think that Jade was wrong to join Alex after fairly being picked are you Jonny?

I'm sure he felt he was noble and chivalrous and wouldn't sell anyone down the river.

I think he should have thought that one through before taking on the role of public avenger.

I'm not suggesting Jonny and Kate supporters suddenly stop supporting them. But I am saying that they are not as angelic as you think. Be objective a little won't you.

At least the Adele supporters have acknowledged her failings after the bitchiness to Sophie.

All the top players have shown different sides to themselves.
”

I never said ,Kate never needeed a hug,(like all the other House mate's)She has her Period if I remember,thats why she cried about her sunglass's I am not doing a personality check on her,all I was saying was.
She Is handing the situation well.
As far as Alex is concerned,He voted for her this week, because she never broke when once again he left her on the poor side.
He is one with the hand up the puppet's jumper(Adel's.jumper)
And don't worryI won't stop my support for her .She is a Gem.
Atlantic
26-06-2002
I agree with you Alrightmate.

Alex has become Kate's arch nemesis. Listen to any of Kate's conversations with the other housemates and you're guaranteed to hear Alex's name coming up within 5 minutes. Makes you wonder if Alex was evicted, Kate would have nothing to talk and obsess about anymore.

The worse thing is I don't think Alex even considers Kate an enemy. In fact he doesn't even consider her at all! I don't think I've ever heard Alex talk about Kate. It's almost like he's thinking "Okay ... I don't like Kate ... we don't get along ... so I'll just avoid anything to do with her"

True ... Alex did spy on Kate's arse in the outdoor shower the other day. But he doesn't like Kate's personality. I'm sure he's got nothing against her arse!
BlueEyes
26-06-2002
Quote:
“You're either crying 'cos you banged your head and broke your sunglasses, Kate, or you've just changed your mind and it's about Alex.......again.”

Hmmm....why can't it be both? As London said and as I have said in previous posts, Kate was suffereing from PMT. Obviously, as I've also said before, you don't understand what it is like or the symptoms of it. PMT is bad at the best of times, add on top of this being away from family and friends, being stuck in one place with people you hardly know and living like a pauper and it all gets on top of you. I'm with London on this one.
Elysium
26-06-2002
Alrightmate,

Excellent points.. well put!


Quote:
“Originally posted by Alrightmate
LOL.

Yeah she copes alright.

She bangs her head on the coal casket and drops her sunglasses, and you know she was thinking, "Alex you bastard".

Starts crying, and within a couple of days of her Spencer leaving she's got Tim's arms around her.
Everyone's around her fussing over her and the opportunity is there....."Why didn't Alex pick me to be on the rich side".
You're either crying 'cos you banged your head and broke your sunglasses, Kate, or you've just changed your mind and it's about Alex.......again.

Jonny and Kate seem to think that Alex is their arch-nemesis with some devious master plan.

The reality is that Alex is Frank Spencer, and is more bothered that everyone doesn't pick on him again.

The funny thing is that Jonny and Kate are winding themselves up about Alex, Alex isn't even trying.

How many times have you cried about someone you met just a for a few weeks.

Kate is a kick-boxer on the outside. How do you think she could do that if she cried everytime she got in the ring.

Kate is a fighter, but not in the way you think she is.

Jonny wouldn't sell anyone down the river?
He told a couple of people last night of how it was wrong of Jade to go to the rich side after Alex picked her.

He said Jade should have offered her place for Kate to go instead of her.
How can that happen? Fact is, Alex picked Jade(whether you like her or not). End of story. You can't decide against the picker, it's their priveledge.
If Jade did swap her place with Kate, how fair is that to everyone else.
Surely you're not manipulating people to think that Jade was wrong to join Alex after fairly being picked are you Jonny?

I'm sure he felt he was noble and chivalrous and wouldn't sell anyone down the river.

I think he should have thought that one through before taking on the role of public avenger.

I'm not suggesting Jonny and Kate supporters suddenly stop supporting them. But I am saying that they are not as angelic as you think. Be objective a little won't you.

At least the Adele supporters have acknowledged her failings after the bitchiness to Sophie.

All the top players have shown different sides to themselves.
”

gigglaney
26-06-2002
I thikn Kate has shown that she can cope under any curcumstances ... I have never been a fan of hers but over the last two weeks , I feel that she has just got on with stuff .

SHe has lost the two people in the house she is closest to , she has been on the poor side for two weeks and she is suffering PMT .. I think anyone would be tested to the limit by those things . And would feel like taking it out on something .

She has not got the bitching charecter that the rich housemates have , I have seen her try to join in chats with them over the divide and been ignored but she still trys , yesterday she was even talking nicely to Alex .

I would love to see her get further be great to have her in there after macbeths witches have gone , i think she deserves it .
Ja©qui
26-06-2002
ello Alantic is that you???? from you know where (AO)..... LOL Well Iv liked Kate from the begining and your wrong Alantic...Alex does bad mouth her....dont know if she will win though .....still not sure who I want to win........think Kate has handled things good in that poor side... well shes not being a jealous spitefull bitch like those other 4....Anyway losing interest
rapidly and not really been watching it....
Gulag Blues
26-06-2002
I did have some sympathy for Kate when she pointed out the bullying of Psophie in the diary room. However, more brownie points would have been earned had she had the courage to stand up to the ghastly Jade in public.

I think that her problem is that her initial strategy has failed miserably. At the start of BB3, she formed the in-crowd with Jonny, Alison and to a lesser extent Spencer. Alison was given the heave-ho fairly quickly, Spencer is now out and all of a sudden, she, Jonny and Psoph are very much the house outsiders (don't forget that for a very long time, Alex was definitely the house pariah, with only Sandy and Adele giving him the time of day). The tables are turned: the core of the house now revolves around Jade and Adele who are each in their own way manipulating (ie bullying) others who appear to be to weak to want to break away: they are probably scared of one of them bearing the brunt of the mickey-taking, and are therefore happy to indulge in the crass victimization of Psoph.

Kate has therefore had to adjust to no longer being the centre of attention; this has brought out the more simpatico side of her we have seen in the last week or so.

(NB: in spite of all of the above, I am not an Endemol-funded "expert" at pointing out the bleeding obvious on a Sunday night; however, should any TV execs wish to employ me, I am cheap, telegenic and eager to please.)
Deerd
26-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by LoNDoNcaLLiNg
I am really impressed with Kate. She went to the diary room to have her cry, (she must have been choking with temper on Saturday night) Not one of the other's would have reacted the way she did.She just gets on with thing's on the poor side,as much as she hate's it
She is showing all the Attribute's I would look for in a Friend.
I would pick her to be on my side in a fight any time. All the other's except Jonny, would sell you down the river.
”

just can't agree enough -spot on.

megaphones of cheers as she's the last to walk out of the house (please god!)!!!!

Kate - Save the Best For Last (Vanessa Williams) - see the song thread.

we should all think of a theme song for kate's final walk. i know they've stopped doing that this year but kate deserves a musical exit. we should email to bb.

Deerd
loving kate
Atlantic
26-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Ja©qui
ello Alantic is that you???? from you know where (AO)..... LOL Well Iv liked Kate from the begining and your wrong Alantic...Alex does bad mouth her....dont know if she will win though .....still not sure who I want to win........think Kate has handled things good in that poor side... well shes not being a jealous spitefull bitch like those other 4....Anyway losing interest
rapidly and not really been watching it....
”

Hi Jacqui

I must've missed the bitching sessions when Alex does bad mouth Kate. Could you give me some examples?
Ja©qui
26-06-2002
Oh god....will have to look at tapes.....In work at the moment....
so cant do it now...Hows you anyway? seems strange seeing names that belong else where Iv got my head stuck out the window trying to sunbathe LOL
plums
26-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Alrightmate

You're either crying 'cos you banged your head and broke your sunglasses, Kate, or you've just changed your mind and it's about Alex.......again.

”

Oh how simple the world is when all feelings must be either/or......................
zippy999
26-06-2002
I really like Kate.Ive never understood why some people hate her.Shed be my favourite to win.I think she handles herself with dignity most of the time.
Ja©qui
26-06-2002
Can anyone remember the times Alex has slagged Kate? I know Iv heard him just cant remember what about? And do you think Kate needs to have a best friends in there....because shes a twin....Anyway decided I want Kate to win....anyone think its gonna be possible....? OR if not win I want her to be one of the last to leave with Jonny and Wait for it ALEX




Would love that combination....
cal
26-06-2002
I think a lot more of Kate after 2 weeks on the poor side - to be honest if it had been me I would be moaning like hell !
She is just getting on with it !
The sunglasses were just the last straw - god anyone with pmt will understand that , I once started crying because I had missed the bin men and my wheelie bin was full
if i was stuck on the poor side with Adele and Jade announcing what and when they are going to eat every 5 minutes I would be constantly in tears :'(
I think she has done really well - I would like to see her stay in long enough to see of Adele and Jade, but then I would like to see everyone stay in longer than Adele and Jade lol
cal
cath99
26-06-2002
I agree, Kate has really blossomed over the past couple of weeks. At first I was indifferent to her, even a bit irritated at times, but now I think she's showing herself to be the most sincere person in the house.
She could easily have ranted and raved about Alex not picking her for the rich side this week (a la PJ and Spencer) or could have turned on the waterworks (Jade), but instead just got on with things.
When she did get weepy, she went into the diary room to let off steam rather than do it infront of everyone else (the sunglasses moment was a combination of PMT and all the shitty things she's had to put up with lately....and even then she tried to cover it up by taking the micky out of herself for crying over a pair of sunglasses).
She's taken Sophie under her wing and has seen through Jade (and maybe Adele too).

The rich housemates have been completely unbearable this week, especially when they're constantly talking about food infront of the others, and last night singing when their shopping arrived. I just wish the poor housemates would be a bit more open with each other about who they're talking about sometimes. Its very admirable that Sophie and Jonny don't want to name names when they're talking about the nastiness of certain rich housemates, but if they did they could really stir things up and perhaps then "collecively" vote for certain people. I know its against the rules, but that's what the other side have been doing for the past 2 weeks and if something doesn't change soon, then all of the poor side will be picked off one by one. Jonny wasted a vote on Tim, if they had talked about things a bit more openly, I'm sure he would've opted for Jade instead.
And although I never thought I'd say it, I don't really want to see the bars come down. The two groups have already been formed (PJ and Tim could be floating voters!) and if they all have to live together again the bitches really could make life unbearable for Kate and Jonny/Sophie.
mavis b sausage
26-06-2002
Great thread! I didn't like Kate much to start with, too shallow/silly I thought but I'm very happy to admit I was wrong... (Make the most of it, doesn't happen often!) I'd love to see her in the last 3 with Jonny. Don't know who else, am right off Alex at the mo. Those two have been so kind to Sophie they deserve great kudos for that. I also think that the Jonny/Kate combo are the only ones who have any hope of rupturing the axis of evil on the rich side, especially when (if?) the bars come down.
Mavis
cath99
26-06-2002
The problem is, Jonny and Kate really need to get someone else on side, otherwise the Jade/Adele/Alex combo will just nominate both next week and I think three nominations will be enough.

This is starting to be more like Survivor and having to make "alliances", but Jonny/Sophie and Kate need to have more strength in numbers. Tim or PJ seem to be the only options, but PJ won't vote for Jade, and Tim doesn't like Jonny or Sophie.
I fear it'll be Jonny (or Sophie) up against Kate next week.....unless they're a bit more open with each other about Jade and Adele. Jonny has found out about Adele from PJ, but unless he tells Kate, I think she's none the wiser. Likewise Jonny with Jade.
Sod your integrity guys.....start bitching!
NoDOGs
26-06-2002
Kate is great! nd
Dee Girl
26-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by LoNDoNcaLLiNg
I am really impressed with Kate. She went to the diary room to have her cry, (she must have been choking with temper on Saturday night) Not one of the other's would have reacted the way she did.She just gets on with thing's on the poor side,as much as she hate's it
She is showing all the Attribute's I would look for in a Friend.
I would pick her to be on my side in a fight any time. All the other's except Jonny, would sell you down the river.
”

Let's start the "Kate for winner" campaign!!
Ja©qui
26-06-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by cath99
The problem is, Jonny and Kate really need to get someone else on side, otherwise the Jade/Adele/Alex combo will just nominate both next week and I think three nominations will be enough.

This is starting to be more like Survivor and having to make "alliances", but Jonny/Sophie and Kate need to have more strength in numbers. Tim or PJ seem to be the only options, but PJ won't vote for Jade, and Tim doesn't like Jonny or Sophie.
I fear it'll be Jonny (or Sophie) up against Kate next week.....unless they're a bit more open with each other about Jade and Adele. Jonny has found out about Adele from PJ, but unless he tells Kate, I think she's none the wiser. Likewise Jonny with Jade.
Sod your integrity guys.....start bitching!
”

Cant we arrange for someone to shout over the Garden Fence! its driving me mad that they dont know what Adele is like....Wheres that plane that flew over with the world cup results....oh dear Im loooooooosing it
babe
26-06-2002
despite the adele/jade/alex/tim alliance for the last nomination one of these four is going to be up against one of the others i.e. kate, jonny, p j or sophie.
whambam
26-06-2002
i think Kate is Great and should win!!!

ps. did you see here arse!!! NICE camera work BB!!
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