For days now I have been wondering why Adele not jade. Jade is far more bitchy and two faced than Adele. I am not a fan of either but what is the nations beef with her. When even BBLB tried to defend Jade's bitching and concerntrated on Adele I had to wander. A friend told me at the beginning of this anti-Adele campaign, that Adele would be hated more and faster than Jade because she was black. At the time I told him that it is not all down to who is black and white these days. Maybe he was right. I find it difficult to argue these days, I can see no reason why she should be the one outraging the nation when there is a louder, nastier and far more two faced person always outdoing her. I am hoping that it is a case of media manipulation and the nation has jumped on the wagon. Other wise we are saying that An evil foul-mouthed white person is better than an annoying black one.
Why Adele Not Jade???
For days now I have been wondering why Adele not jade. Jade is far more bitchy and two faced than Adele. I am not a fan of either but what is the nations beef with her. When even BBLB tried to defend Jade's bitching and concerntrated on Adele I had to wander. A friend told me at the beginning of this anti-Adele campaign, that Adele would be hated more and faster than Jade because she was black. At the time I told him that it is not all down to who is black and white these days. Maybe he was right. I find it difficult to argue these days, I can see no reason why she should be the one outraging the nation when there is a louder, nastier and far more two faced person always outdoing her. I am hoping that it is a case of media manipulation and the nation has jumped on the wagon. Other wise we are saying that An evil foul-mouthed white person is better than an annoying black one.
NO-ONE at ANY point in ANY thread has mentioned adeles race as the reason she is two faced. And it has to be said that she is less hated than Jade - any review of this forum can qualify that. Please dont make an issue of something that simply isnt there.
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“Originally posted by Babygirl
For days now I have been wondering why Adele not jade. Jade is far more bitchy and two faced than Adele. I am not a fan of either but what is the nations beef with her. When even BBLB tried to defend Jade's bitching and concerntrated on Adele I had to wander. A friend told me at the beginning of this anti-Adele campaign, that Adele would be hated more and faster than Jade because she was black. At the time I told him that it is not all down to who is black and white these days. Maybe he was right. I find it difficult to argue these days, I can see no reason why she should be the one outraging the nation when there is a louder, nastier and far more two faced person always outdoing her. I am hoping that it is a case of media manipulation and the nation has jumped on the wagon. Other wise we are saying that An evil foul-mouthed white person is better than an annoying black one. ”
“Originally posted by Babygirl
For days now I have been wondering why Adele not jade. Jade is far more bitchy and two faced than Adele. I am not a fan of either but what is the nations beef with her. When even BBLB tried to defend Jade's bitching and concerntrated on Adele I had to wander. A friend told me at the beginning of this anti-Adele campaign, that Adele would be hated more and faster than Jade because she was black. At the time I told him that it is not all down to who is black and white these days. Maybe he was right. I find it difficult to argue these days, I can see no reason why she should be the one outraging the nation when there is a louder, nastier and far more two faced person always outdoing her. I am hoping that it is a case of media manipulation and the nation has jumped on the wagon. Other wise we are saying that An evil foul-mouthed white person is better than an annoying black one. ”
Have you joined us from the channel bore forum?
Where did u have to wander?
Although it may not be the case in this instance it is possible to be subconciously racist. Not all racism is overt. I'm often amused at how people react to the mention of the word 'racism' and now fully expect to read a tedious amount of anti "pc" posts.
That all out of the way - Why does Adelle get all the 2 faced barbs and Jade seemingly get away with it. Whatever the intelligence (and we shouldn't discriminate) it's equal all round.........
That all out of the way - Why does Adelle get all the 2 faced barbs and Jade seemingly get away with it. Whatever the intelligence (and we shouldn't discriminate) it's equal all round.........
People can immediately feel superior to Jade, for all the obvious reasons.
Adele on the other hand is intelligent, largely in control of her emotions, doesn't show the need to depend on others and (gasp) may not even want to spend time mooning after the male half of the population. People have to come up with some other reason to feel superior to her, hence the two-face label.
Adele on the other hand is intelligent, largely in control of her emotions, doesn't show the need to depend on others and (gasp) may not even want to spend time mooning after the male half of the population. People have to come up with some other reason to feel superior to her, hence the two-face label.
Its Adele AND Jade as far as I'm concerned. I do feel strongly about Adele as I was one of the eejits who thought she was great for a couple of weeks, I fell for the Lee thing hook line & sinker. Then the Alex thing, the winding up of Jade, well we all know whats been going on. I think a number of people started by liking her, so I think this 'its her colour' stuff is complete crap to put it mildly. Going against the evidence of her own behaviour because she is black would be just as racist - not to mention condescending.
[quote]Originally posted by Mesostim
[b]Although it may not be the case in this instance it is possible to be subconciously racist. Not all racism is overt. I'm often amused at how people react to the mention of the word 'racism' and now fully expect to read a tedious amount of anti "pc" posts.
I think Adele instigates the bitchness and Jade being thick as she is just starts shouting her mouth off, this is Adeles plan.I am not a racist, i absolutely loved Alison as she was so full of fun , colour just dosen,t come in to it , and if you bring this into discussion your only showing your immaturity,.
I wanted Alison to win but sadly the others saw her too much a threat, but hopefully she will go on to be a presenter has she has a natural charm about her .Her and rusty lee did a great double act on BBLB LOL this is what we want to see more of.
[b]Although it may not be the case in this instance it is possible to be subconciously racist. Not all racism is overt. I'm often amused at how people react to the mention of the word 'racism' and now fully expect to read a tedious amount of anti "pc" posts.
I think Adele instigates the bitchness and Jade being thick as she is just starts shouting her mouth off, this is Adeles plan.I am not a racist, i absolutely loved Alison as she was so full of fun , colour just dosen,t come in to it , and if you bring this into discussion your only showing your immaturity,.
I wanted Alison to win but sadly the others saw her too much a threat, but hopefully she will go on to be a presenter has she has a natural charm about her .Her and rusty lee did a great double act on BBLB LOL this is what we want to see more of.
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“Originally posted by Babygirl
For days now I have been wondering why Adele not jade. . ”
“Originally posted by Babygirl
For days now I have been wondering why Adele not jade. . ”
Sorry," Adele and not Jade" what?
Is that meant to be some kind Boolean statement?
Jack
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“Originally posted by BlueEyes
Have you joined us from the channel bore forum?
Where did u have to wander? ”
“Originally posted by BlueEyes
Have you joined us from the channel bore forum?
Where did u have to wander? ”
Jack
has blue eyes.
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“Originally posted by Mesostim
Although it may not be the case in this instance it is possible to be subconciously racist. Not all racism is overt. I'm often amused at how people react to the mention of the word 'racism' and now fully expect to read a tedious amount of anti "pc" posts.
That all out of the way - Why does Adelle get all the 2 faced barbs and Jade seemingly get away with it. Whatever the intelligence (and we shouldn't discriminate) it's equal all round......... ”
“Originally posted by Mesostim
Although it may not be the case in this instance it is possible to be subconciously racist. Not all racism is overt. I'm often amused at how people react to the mention of the word 'racism' and now fully expect to read a tedious amount of anti "pc" posts.
That all out of the way - Why does Adelle get all the 2 faced barbs and Jade seemingly get away with it. Whatever the intelligence (and we shouldn't discriminate) it's equal all round......... ”
You should read a few more of the threads here and elsewhere - Jade is far from free of the accusation of being two-faced - quite the opposite.
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“Originally posted by Babygirl
.... Other wise we are saying that An evil foul-mouthed white person is better than an annoying black one. ”
“Originally posted by Babygirl
.... Other wise we are saying that An evil foul-mouthed white person is better than an annoying black one. ”
Am I mistaken? I thought at one point Jade had stated that her father is black.
B]Am I mistaken? I thought at one point Jade had stated that her father is black.[/b]
No, it was her accent ... she probably said here father was "bloke", or maybe "Blake".
No, it was her accent ... she probably said here father was "bloke", or maybe "Blake".
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“Originally posted by Revenant
Am I mistaken? I thought at one point Jade had stated that her father is black. ”
“Originally posted by Revenant
Am I mistaken? I thought at one point Jade had stated that her father is black. ”
Her father is a light skinned black chap.
Jack
[quote]Originally posted by DeeDee
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I feel exactly the same. I also wanted Alison to win from the start - she was funny, wasn't afraid to take the mick out of herself, very genuine, kind and did not have one bad quality IMO. Very sad to see her go so soon.
I also thought she did a superb double act with Rusty - loved it how she just threw the Chocolate Orange on the ground!
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“Originally posted by Mesostim
i absolutely loved Alison as she was so full of fun , colour just dosen,t come in to it , and if you bring this into discussion your only showing your immaturity,.
I wanted Alison to win but sadly the others saw her too much a threat, but hopefully she will go on to be a presenter has she has a natural charm about her .Her and rusty lee did a great double act on BBLB LOL this is what we want to see more of. ”
“Originally posted by Mesostim
i absolutely loved Alison as she was so full of fun , colour just dosen,t come in to it , and if you bring this into discussion your only showing your immaturity,.
I wanted Alison to win but sadly the others saw her too much a threat, but hopefully she will go on to be a presenter has she has a natural charm about her .Her and rusty lee did a great double act on BBLB LOL this is what we want to see more of. ”
I feel exactly the same. I also wanted Alison to win from the start - she was funny, wasn't afraid to take the mick out of herself, very genuine, kind and did not have one bad quality IMO. Very sad to see her go so soon.
I also thought she did a superb double act with Rusty - loved it how she just threw the Chocolate Orange on the ground!
It's odd because when this year's BB first began, it seemed like they really wanted to explore racial issues, since they had 4 non-white HMs. But that all went pear-shaped.
What is an interesting question, I think, is why do the non-white contestants in British reality tv shows almost always (not 100%, but the trend is there) get booted in the first trimester of the show. Think of Narinder, Amma, Meeta and Ty (from Survivor 2). Of the first 5 HMs who left, 3 weren't white (Sunita, Allison, Lee). I know that some left, some were surprisingly voted off. But it is odd. Why don't non-white contestants "gell" with British contestants/audiences?
And, for what it's worth, its strange that Sophie is slagged of for spending so much time with one laconic, but black, HM, while Kate isn't.
And, to protect myself against attacks! While you might not think race is an issue in the house, Adele certainly does. When she first came in, she mentioned explicitly that she usually likes being the only non-white in the crowd (to be "special") but was happy to see Allison. She then nominated Allison out of a sense of betrayal, and her nomination of Lee seems to have something similar to it.
Simply because race isn't mentioned, doesn't mean that non-white folks don't know that it's being considered. I still remember the look on Lee's face when Sandy was talking about calling Blacks, coloured!
What is an interesting question, I think, is why do the non-white contestants in British reality tv shows almost always (not 100%, but the trend is there) get booted in the first trimester of the show. Think of Narinder, Amma, Meeta and Ty (from Survivor 2). Of the first 5 HMs who left, 3 weren't white (Sunita, Allison, Lee). I know that some left, some were surprisingly voted off. But it is odd. Why don't non-white contestants "gell" with British contestants/audiences?
And, for what it's worth, its strange that Sophie is slagged of for spending so much time with one laconic, but black, HM, while Kate isn't.
And, to protect myself against attacks! While you might not think race is an issue in the house, Adele certainly does. When she first came in, she mentioned explicitly that she usually likes being the only non-white in the crowd (to be "special") but was happy to see Allison. She then nominated Allison out of a sense of betrayal, and her nomination of Lee seems to have something similar to it.
Simply because race isn't mentioned, doesn't mean that non-white folks don't know that it's being considered. I still remember the look on Lee's face when Sandy was talking about calling Blacks, coloured!
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“Originally posted by desktop
It's odd because when this year's BB first began, it seemed like they really wanted to explore racial issues, since they had 4 non-white HMs. But that all went pear-shaped.
What is an interesting question, I think, is why do the non-white contestants in British reality tv shows almost always (not 100%, but the trend is there) get booted in the first trimester of the show. Think of Narinder, Amma, Meeta and Ty (from Survivor 2). Of the first 5 HMs who left, 3 weren't white (Sunita, Allison, Lee). I know that some left, some were surprisingly voted off. But it is odd. Why don't non-white contestants "gell" with British contestants/audiences?
And, for what it's worth, its strange that Sophie is slagged of for spending so much time with one laconic, but black, HM, while Kate isn't. ”
“Originally posted by desktop
It's odd because when this year's BB first began, it seemed like they really wanted to explore racial issues, since they had 4 non-white HMs. But that all went pear-shaped.
What is an interesting question, I think, is why do the non-white contestants in British reality tv shows almost always (not 100%, but the trend is there) get booted in the first trimester of the show. Think of Narinder, Amma, Meeta and Ty (from Survivor 2). Of the first 5 HMs who left, 3 weren't white (Sunita, Allison, Lee). I know that some left, some were surprisingly voted off. But it is odd. Why don't non-white contestants "gell" with British contestants/audiences?
And, for what it's worth, its strange that Sophie is slagged of for spending so much time with one laconic, but black, HM, while Kate isn't. ”
Er, couldn't the rejection you described be because the people (whtever their colour) were shit?
Are you referring to Kate/Alison? Alison was not at all laconic. What are you on about?
jack
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“Originally posted by Father Jack
Are you referring to Kate/Alison? Alison was not at all laconic. What are you on about?
”
“Originally posted by Father Jack
Are you referring to Kate/Alison? Alison was not at all laconic. What are you on about?
”
Spencer. Kate isolated herself to be with Spencer; Sophie did so with Lee.
[quote]Originally posted by DeeDee
[b][quote]Originally posted by Mesostim
[b]Although it may not be the case in this instance it is possible to be subconciously racist. Not all racism is overt. I'm often amused at how people react to the mention of the word 'racism' and now fully expect to read a tedious amount of anti "pc" posts.
I think Adele instigates the bitchness and Jade being thick as she is just starts shouting her mouth off, this is Adeles plan.I am not a racist, i absolutely loved Alison as she was so full of fun , colour just dosen,t come in to it , and if you bring this into discussion your only showing your immaturity,.
I find this a little offensive. I believe that race is a perfectly valid discussion point, whether in be in the in the house or wider society. It is an issue that is there whether we chose to acknowledge it or not.
[b][quote]Originally posted by Mesostim
[b]Although it may not be the case in this instance it is possible to be subconciously racist. Not all racism is overt. I'm often amused at how people react to the mention of the word 'racism' and now fully expect to read a tedious amount of anti "pc" posts.
I think Adele instigates the bitchness and Jade being thick as she is just starts shouting her mouth off, this is Adeles plan.I am not a racist, i absolutely loved Alison as she was so full of fun , colour just dosen,t come in to it , and if you bring this into discussion your only showing your immaturity,.
I find this a little offensive. I believe that race is a perfectly valid discussion point, whether in be in the in the house or wider society. It is an issue that is there whether we chose to acknowledge it or not.
Why Adele not Jade???
Simple equation -
Jade = Monkey
Adele = Organ Grinder
The two are nasty, pathetic examples of pondlife, but one is thick and the other manipulative. I hope Sophie gobs them both.
Simple equation -
Jade = Monkey
Adele = Organ Grinder
The two are nasty, pathetic examples of pondlife, but one is thick and the other manipulative. I hope Sophie gobs them both.
[quote]Originally posted by Mesostim
[b][quote]Originally posted by DeeDee
[b]
It depends on the context...
jack
[b][quote]Originally posted by DeeDee
[b]
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“Originally posted by Mesostim
Although it may not be the case in this instance it is possible to be subconciously racist. Not all racism is overt. I'm often amused at how people react to the mention of the word 'racism' and now fully expect to read a tedious amount of anti "pc" posts.
I think Adele instigates the bitchness and Jade being thick as she is just starts shouting her mouth off, this is Adeles plan.I am not a racist, i absolutely loved Alison as she was so full of fun , colour just dosen,t come in to it , and if you bring this into discussion your only showing your immaturity,.
I find this a little offensive. I believe that race is a perfectly valid discussion point, whether in be in the in the house or wider society. It is an issue that is there whether we chose to acknowledge it or not. ”
“Originally posted by Mesostim
Although it may not be the case in this instance it is possible to be subconciously racist. Not all racism is overt. I'm often amused at how people react to the mention of the word 'racism' and now fully expect to read a tedious amount of anti "pc" posts.
I think Adele instigates the bitchness and Jade being thick as she is just starts shouting her mouth off, this is Adeles plan.I am not a racist, i absolutely loved Alison as she was so full of fun , colour just dosen,t come in to it , and if you bring this into discussion your only showing your immaturity,.
I find this a little offensive. I believe that race is a perfectly valid discussion point, whether in be in the in the house or wider society. It is an issue that is there whether we chose to acknowledge it or not. ”
It depends on the context...
jack
I always appreciate the responses. I am not saying we are racist it is just a thought a black friend put into my head and I had to think about it I just wandered what others thought. I personally think it has a lot to do with at media frenzy. I have watched a lot of this years big brother I dont see the scale of Adele's bitching any worse than that of say PJ Alex even Alison and Kate. Where was all the rage when they were calling Adele 'so last week' when lee turned his attention to sophie and sitting there laughing about it. There was never any love lost between those girls.
This sophie thing, well I have watched since the beginning of this so called bullying. Adele and PJ have both had a dig that one night when they were all laughing about her and mimicking her but the main instigators are Tim and Jade so where is all this quoting from Adele and Jade's bullying. Both Adele and Alex have kept their distance since the school yard face pulling and constant laughing and talking over sophie by Jade and Tim has begun.
Even TV coverage is manipulating peoples opinions constantly showing the only 2 times Adele has been negative towards Sophie. The night they all had a dig and the day when Adele and Jade were laughing near the patio.
Listen to Sophie she will tell you who has been bullying her. Tim and Jade even tried to poison kate to take away more of sophie's support but Kate saw straight thru them and is watching her back with Jade even more.
I stress again I am by no means and adele fan but put the blame where it belongs. Jade needs no great brain to pull her strings she is doing a bit of pulling of her own. she may not be the smartest cookie but she is not the dits everyone thinks she is.
This sophie thing, well I have watched since the beginning of this so called bullying. Adele and PJ have both had a dig that one night when they were all laughing about her and mimicking her but the main instigators are Tim and Jade so where is all this quoting from Adele and Jade's bullying. Both Adele and Alex have kept their distance since the school yard face pulling and constant laughing and talking over sophie by Jade and Tim has begun.
Even TV coverage is manipulating peoples opinions constantly showing the only 2 times Adele has been negative towards Sophie. The night they all had a dig and the day when Adele and Jade were laughing near the patio.
Listen to Sophie she will tell you who has been bullying her. Tim and Jade even tried to poison kate to take away more of sophie's support but Kate saw straight thru them and is watching her back with Jade even more.
I stress again I am by no means and adele fan but put the blame where it belongs. Jade needs no great brain to pull her strings she is doing a bit of pulling of her own. she may not be the smartest cookie but she is not the dits everyone thinks she is.
I'm balck, and the point raised by babygirl has crossed my mind a couple of times too. But I don't think race was really the issue concerning the departure of the housemates Especially Lee and Alison
I for one found Alison extrememly irritating, but a lot of people loved her. But lets face it, she didnt lose by much, and she WAS up against Alex. I didnt really find her eviction as shocking as most people (I even welcomed it!) But she hadnt done herself any favours whatsoever in the house anyway. She pissed in the shower and |I thought that disgusting too...lol
Lee- well, he was never going to come out trumps against Johnny. Too boring, too self obsessed, and considered himslef too much of a player. Johnny was the funny man (at that time) and the choice between the two was (quite) obvious)
Concerning Adele, I for one think she might have a few race issues herself, but hey, I like her, so keep her in!!!!
I for one found Alison extrememly irritating, but a lot of people loved her. But lets face it, she didnt lose by much, and she WAS up against Alex. I didnt really find her eviction as shocking as most people (I even welcomed it!) But she hadnt done herself any favours whatsoever in the house anyway. She pissed in the shower and |I thought that disgusting too...lol
Lee- well, he was never going to come out trumps against Johnny. Too boring, too self obsessed, and considered himslef too much of a player. Johnny was the funny man (at that time) and the choice between the two was (quite) obvious)
Concerning Adele, I for one think she might have a few race issues herself, but hey, I like her, so keep her in!!!!
