Jonny & Kate talking about nominations and "how for the life of me I can't see why I was nominated. I try and get on with everyone, I don't cause arguments.. "

.. Oh, and then the usual "my poor family, having to come down, like ... again. Just imagine, every week, having to do that.. like"

Its as if he feels some divine right to *never* be nominated! I can’t believe the guys attitude. I didn't like the argument he made that *because* he's on both the poor side and has little 'baccy' he felt like 'walking' .. and was seriously considering... for crying out loud, you can't *demand* to be liked!

It also seems that they are both going to change the way they nominate in future..

See sense and vote him out..

Elysium give me 3 reasons for why adele jade and tim are in some way better/more intelligent/more plesant/funnier than johnny and kate please........................

None of the housemates have any right to *never* be nominated. If your up, thats life, your up and you take your chance with the public. If you look at *all* of those that have been up for eviction so far, only "Jonny" has complained each and every day.. mentioning his "family" [public sympathy] at evey oppertunity.. and generally just feels that he should never-ever have been up.

I feel that he does not have a right to make such demands.. he should sportingly accept that some people might like not his humour or his personality; that is sadly a fact of life.. The sooner he 'accepts' it the better. He has come into the house with a game-plan and he's seriously *issed that its not working. He's tried to be all-things-to-all people and can't grasp that this stratergy might work on paper but in reality it is flawed..

I have no doubt that he will survive, but I'd have loved to see the guy get booted for the very reasons that he makes too much demands on being liked..

As the other's haven't been nominated yet how could they moan about anything.
Kate And Jonny are the 2 normal people in the house.
they have no game plan.they hope by being them self's they wiil win.
But it is a sad state of affair's when the person, it look's like you and your like want to win, is a nasty, sly , smug git.

I have no doubt that he will survive, but I'd have loved to see the guy get booted for the very reasons that he makes too much demands on being liked.. [/b][/quote][b]


Oh forgive the human being that has an insecurity problem. There are alot worse problems in that house and poor johnny and his slight fear of public rejection really isnt a major issue

Adele has tried to be all-things-to-all-people, and I don't see you attacking her.

Besides, nearly everybody wants to be liked............except you, obviously.

Once Mr Miyagi [Brett] gets hold of him [later] we’ll see a completely different Jonny to the one of the past few weeks [another character change] who will be told the world really loves him and that other the housemates “might” be voting tactically; after all, he’s not going to be told that some of the housemates just can’t stand his sense of humour, otherwise he’d revert even further into his shell.

Jonny operates on a more subtle level and the trained psychologist Adele has spotted it and supposed dimwit Jade, then we can have faith in small mercies.

And the reason he's coming over as "nasty, sly and a bit of a smug git" is because he IS!

Fine, epicurus.
You've given your reasons why Jonny and Kate should win. Now give your reasons why Adele should.

michelle, you're right jonny and kate are much better than those 3 EASILY, but i agree that jonny should go only to send a big warning out to them when they realise that we don't all hate sophie as much as they do. she's more genuine than all 3 of them put together and yet judging by the sickening level of abuse they've slung at her you would think she was the most obnoxious person in there. well that title is held by adele and jade i'm afraid, and its now time that we start dishing out some retribution of our own, starting by keeping sophie in, and then voting out the "evil axis" adele jade and tim one by one to widespread booing. if we vote them all out before sophie, it will teach them a much needed lesson and the bullies would have got their just desserts.

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Oh nice thought.....final week sophie adele jade alex.......sophie wins......a classic!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I don't quite understand..

and just what are you talking about "epicurus" ?

You beat me to it Emma

was just about to remind him that he hasn't had his Epicurus head on!

I'm completely with London and Michelles on this..


Can't you believe for a second he actually means it?
He's a down to earth good guy for f***s sake.
Jonny and Sophie are the ONLY 2 HMs which haven't backstabbed, been completely 2 faced or bullied people.


Adele and Tim are obviously working to a crafty gameplan. None of the others really are.

His so called "fear of rejection" is played upon *greatly* .. because he's extremely aware of giving the public a personality that they can and will [eventually] warm to ..

Sorry, I got confused, ELYSIUM.

Since you dislike JONNY and KATE, why do you think ADELE should win?

I think YOU'RE kind of COMPLIMENTING Jonny in a way, making him out to be uber-intelligent with a brilliant gameplan.

Jonny is the most sly out of *all* of the housemates.. If you can't see it, then fine .. but given time you will.

Yes... Actually, no

Jonny and Kate plot 'terror campaign'?!?

Ooooh, you BIG storyteller ,you!

Keep Jonny in - give Pizza Chants))

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His so called "fear of rejection" is played upon *greatly* .. because he's extremely aware of giving the public a personality that they can and will [eventually] warm to .. [/b][/quote][b]

well if you are going to start pullingup people for being aware.........
adele aware that by sucking up to people she will not get nominated
jade aware that sucking her thumb and playing on her thickness gives her the cutesy (ugh sick) role in the house
fingers sore from typing will finish in moment

I actually quite admire Kate to a certain degree.. her game plan is simple and has been effective..

Look, lets get one thing straight - these guys in the house are ALL in there for a reason.. to better themselves, not to provide *you* with outright entertainment.. they all have hidden agendas, some are more open than others. But out of all of them Jonny is the one who is forever attempting to 'endear' himself to both the public and the housemates.. He's studied the game so well that he's come in knowing *exactly* what to give the public .. His 'equity card' should give you a little bit of a clue that he's got some interest in 'acting' .. but no, he couldn't possibly be pulling the wool over *your* eyes.. no, not "our canny lad Jonny" ..

Sheesh, some people ..

Since when was Adele a trained psychologist?

I don't see that Kate and Jonny are plotting a terror campaign, sure they may be going for public sympathy but who wouldn't? Also PJ, Kate and Jonny are currently discussing Jade I think. PJ in particular seems to have got her sussed, which is interesting. If I'm wrong, and it's not Jade they're talking about, please do tell me

IMHO Tim and Jade are the worst of the housemates... Adele has chosen to ally herself closely with Jade, and I'm not sure if the bitching is more from her or Jade, but it's clearly not helping her public image

I don't have a problem with anyone being "aware" of their surroundings.. both Adele and Jade have been quite astute at this.. PJ listens and arse-licks whoever he thinks has the power at that given time .. those are all pretty normal tactics and I'm sure we'd be surprised if people didn't do that.. Jonny operates differently.. attempting to mislead the public.. this is crux of the matter, the "using and abusing" of the public ... He knows, ultimately, that the public are the ones you need to win over ultimately.. and its on this level HIS game is played.

i can understand your reasoning and i won't be devastated whichever one stays. i'm more devastated at the 'evil axis' success in their nomination power-play and that we are forced to choose between two good HMs.

however i do think that overall jonny has contributed more to the house than sophie and on that strength alone should be allowed to stay. if sophie exits to cheers (which i believe she will) then that will send an adequate messages to the bitches atht we are diagreeing with them.

i think (am hoping) that we will only have to wait one more week for the retribution to start. my concern is this suggestion (on another thread) that bb are going to rig the audience for jade's eviction. i don't want to witness a breakdown but now NEED for adele and jade to get the 'we hate you' message. maybe that makes me overly obsessed but i can no longer look at either of them without having homicidal thoughts.

my one (and only) criticism of the lovely kate is that she has yet to fully suss what's going on and needs to use her nominations to better effect - she's too nice.

Deerd
voting for sophie but not being upset if she stays.

It has been mentioned several times that Adele is a 'trained psychologist' .. both in some of the BB blurb [she's also trained in 'human biology'] .. not to mention that "Brett" ( Miyagi ) commended Adele on her astuteness and mentioned that he was aware she was a trained psychologist.. [she mentioned this in a group chat after leaving Brett] ..

Jonny and Kate are *plotting* and seem to be involving PJ in their plans..

really dont dont think she is.....she might have done a pyschology module at uni but i clearly reacll a converastion with johnny saying how she would loved to have done medicine but didnt get biology grades so went to uni to do pharmaceutial something or other but hated it and gave it up after 2 years and is now trying to become a dj.....she's only 23 so dont think she evr got trained to be any pyschologist!!!