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I've just bought a Sony Ericcson W800i on O2
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chris24747
04-11-2005
hey guys, i rang o2 earlier cos i really wanted the w800i and the guy i spoke to seemed to know his stuff, he said that the w800i has had some software compatibility issues with the o2 branding software they put on or something!! not sure about that cos i got a mate at work who has one on o2 and his is fine. he's hada couple of weird lockups butnothing major. just ordered a k750i and might get the firmware updated to w800i. see how i like it as it is, will definately get the firmware upgrade that 'lalaland' mentioned with the camera update depending what equipment i need. anyone know what would be needed?

cheers
SONiC_86
04-11-2005
im sure there was an issue like that for the k750i a while back, and they stopped selling them for a short while until it was resolved.
im gonna sit tight and wait for the w800i unless something better comes along
jbeavon
05-11-2005
car phone warehouse have them back in stock again on all networks. mine's just been dispatched, so should get it soon! yay
SONiC_86
05-11-2005
They dont have the good tariffs there though. Im after the online 50 or online 100 tarif
SONiC_86
07-11-2005
Wahooo they're back in stock!

Clicky here
chris24747
09-11-2005
sods bloody law!!!! i ordered my k750 on the 7th and now they have the w800i in!!!! furthermore i payed 30 quid for the 750 and its free now! u reckon i could make them give my 30 quid back???

suppose i could send it back under that 'cool off' thing but i requested my number to be changed now!! anyone else in the same boat? / any advice?
lalaland
09-11-2005
Originally Posted by chris24747:
“sods bloody law!!!! i ordered my k750 on the 7th and now they have the w800i in!!!! furthermore i payed 30 quid for the 750 and its free now! u reckon i could make them give my 30 quid back???

suppose i could send it back under that 'cool off' thing but i requested my number to be changed now!! anyone else in the same boat? / any advice?”

Yep, stick with the K750i. The W800i is not better or worse, it has an addition feature of Walkman only mode (with phone disabled) and the media player is called Walkman, but other than that it's the same.
(you can flash it if you are really desperate)

Cosmetic wise I prefer the K750i, but it's down to personal choice. Again you can change the case too if you are desperate, for about £20.

Paying £30 for the K750i sucks though. I got mine free last month and used the £30 to buy a 500 meg stick like the one that comes with the W800i.

You could always try to find someone wanting to swap. My mate tried swapping his W800i with me recently, but I prefer the K750i looks.

They are the same phone, different shell, different firmware. If you are really fussed about it either one can be changed to the other for about 20 quid and an hours work, but it's not really worth it (and you could void your warranty).

Just one tip for the future, have more patience and wait if you want something badly enoug
jagger2k
09-11-2005
i prefer the w800i to the k750, dunno why tho, it must be because of the colours lol, Look at this tho, looks kool.

K750 walkman phone pic 1
K750 walkman phone pic 2
K750 walkman phone pic 3
K750 walkman phone pic 4
chris24747
09-11-2005
yeh i like the k750 better (just the w800 is a better spec). much more subtle that the w800. anyway i rang o2 and asked for my 30 quid back and they credited it towards my line rental so i ended up getting it free, so im pleased again!!!!


thought about flashing it, what kit do i need to do it? can i use the usb that came with it? im competent with technology so im sure i could do it!

ps does flashing the firmware void the warranty?
lalaland
09-11-2005
Originally Posted by jagger2k:
“i prefer the w800i to the k750, dunno why tho, it must be because of the colours lol, Look at this tho, looks kool.

K750 walkman phone pic 1
K750 walkman phone pic 2
K750 walkman phone pic 3
K750 walkman phone pic 4”

I like that, very nice.
lalaland
09-11-2005
Originally Posted by chris24747:
“yeh i like the k750 better (just the w800 is a better spec). much more subtle that the w800. anyway i rang o2 and asked for my 30 quid back and they credited it towards my line rental so i ended up getting it free, so im pleased again!!!!


thought about flashing it, what kit do i need to do it? can i use the usb that came with it? im competent with technology so im sure i could do it!

ps does flashing the firmware void the warranty?”

The W800i is the same phone, how is it better spec? They renamed the media player to walkman and added a phone off mode (unless that's the bit you mean by better spec?)

Flashing it with an incorrect firmware would more than likely void your warranty as you would have to 'hack' the phone to do so.

Yes, you can do this with your standard USB cable contrary to popular belief as the USB cable can be set to service mode. Do a google search for Davinci and Sony Ericsson flashing.
chris24747
10-11-2005
i know its the same phone, i supose by better spec i meant be the fact it has the better memory (not that it matters cos i got a 512 card yesterday!) and the 'flight mode' (even tho they will tell u to switch it off on a plane!).
i have done a bit of research on flashing the phone already and had read that u needed another cable, ill look into it. i have heard of that davinci software, dont u need an account for it or something? i have seen your name about on another forum as well lalaland!!
lalaland
10-11-2005
Originally Posted by chris24747:
“i know its the same phone, i supose by better spec i meant be the fact it has the better memory (not that it matters cos i got a 512 card yesterday!) and the 'flight mode' (even tho they will tell u to switch it off on a plane!).
i have done a bit of research on flashing the phone already and had read that u needed another cable, ill look into it. i have heard of that davinci software, dont u need an account for it or something? i have seen your name about on another forum as well lalaland!! ”

Ah, you mean it comes with a bigger memory card. I noticed that too and bought myself a 512 stick so now have the 64 just sitting there.
(hope you remembered to buy the smaller pro memory stick and not the standard size )

I don't use my phone for MP3s, but it's a great digital camera and the 512 memory makes a good storage space.

For the flashing of the phone, you can do it with the cable provided in the box, but like I said before many don't believe this. To use the cable provided in the box, you need to shut the phone down, wait 10 seconds and then hold down the C button until the unit powers on again. This puts it in service mode and the cable works for flashing, I know that as I upgraded my firmware recently using it (although I kept to K750i software, not W800i).

To use Davinci is free, but you will need an account for some of the files that you will require. It's all explained on their website.

Good luck with it.

ps
There are another 3 or 4 forums featuring me, but beware of imposters. Always look for the genuine hologram that proves Lalaland is authentic.
chris24747
10-11-2005
aye, think ill stick with the k750i software, just update it. thats if it needs updating, it is a brand new phone.

cheers for the advice!!
lalaland
10-11-2005
Mine was brand new the other month, but I still ran it against SEUS and found my firmware wasn't the latest version.

Soon updated it and fixed a bug with the bluetooth and aparantly improved the camera quality too.
chris24747
10-11-2005
yeh i was looking at the camera update, not had problems with BT yet (only used it to recieve my phonebook from my old k700 though!) is there anything noticeable with the camera update??
SONiC_86
12-11-2005
will i have to download the thing from the o2 web site help section to set up WAP, MMS etc on this phone? its on contract with a new sim card?
chris24747
14-11-2005
when i switched my phone on for the first time i got a load of pop ups asking if i wanted to install the settings, so mine was all automatic. not tested it out yet but i imagine it will be ok!!!!

by the way my firmware is R1N035, i believe this is the latest version for a k750. considering putting w800 on, this software can be slow and i've had it crash already! i guess there could be similar problems with w800 software though!
3angled
14-11-2005
They are awesome indeed!!!!!
Also, had a problem finding games for mine but eventually found a site W800i mobile games for W800i games.
Enjoy everyone!
chris24747
14-11-2005
got one of them camera flash adapters off ebay for a tenner, arrived today. first impressions are very good!!! pictures are enhanced, its automatic as well so it dont flash when it dunt need to. used it a few times and doesnt seem to kill the battery like i was expecting!!
SONiC_86
15-11-2005
thanks, i sent a picture mms from my old fone and it works ok, so i'll leave it.

Tried updating the firmware with SEUS, but it said that this feature is not supported on your network (O2) !!!!
lalaland
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by SONiC_86:
“thanks, i sent a picture mms from my old fone and it works ok, so i'll leave it.

Tried updating the firmware with SEUS, but it said that this feature is not supported on your network (O2) !!!! ”

I'd try it again, or re-read instructions. I'm on O2 and so is my GF and both our phones worked on SEUS.
SONiC_86
16-11-2005
Originally Posted by lalaland:
“I'd try it again, or re-read instructions. I'm on O2 and so is my GF and both our phones worked on SEUS.”

tried it again today, same message . perhaps O2 are stopping me update because th W800i had a few issues, and maybe they have fixed this by reverting their W800i's to an older firmware maybe! just a guess, unless you two have W800i's also?
potatolegs
16-11-2005
I just thought I'd update that I am so happy with my phone.

The walkman wqualiy is incredible and everyone comments on how brilliant the photos come out.

I recommend it to you all
lalaland
17-11-2005
Originally Posted by SONiC_86:
“tried it again today, same message . perhaps O2 are stopping me update because th W800i had a few issues, and maybe they have fixed this by reverting their W800i's to an older firmware maybe! just a guess, unless you two have W800i's also?”

O2 definatly do not block SEUS, they have no reason to do so and I have confirmed with their customer services too.

My K750i on O2 definatly works and I did my mates W800i recently too.

I have a friend on Vodafone (unbranded handset) that had problems updating his, but it turns out he missed a step on the update due to their instructions not being 100% clear. When I went to his house to help him he was suprised that there was another step which I'd done and it worked.

If it's still not working then try contacting Sony Ericsson support.
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