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Chico. Who will rid me of this turbulent idiot?
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Gillypoots
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by looby383x:
“But that's just what I'm saying. Chico, much as I hate to admit it, will probably have a longer career than most there (albeit (hopefully ) fairly short) - he will be appearing as the novelty act on entertainment shows long after we have forgotten the name of the winner.

However, that is not what this particular competition is about - the prize in this one is a recording contract, so my point is that whilst the judges are happy to let the 'entertainer' stay for a few weeks to liven up the show, no way will they let it continue in definitely.

I was not making a comment on the entertainment business in general, just on this particular competition”

I can agree with your comments up to a point. My problem with the programme is that vying for a record contract on offer is all well and good, but I have yet to see one singer that truthfully has to offer what the programme wants........the X-Factor (that magic something that makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up) coupled with the right image to be a successful recording artist capable of selling vast amounts of cds.

As far as I can tell they don't have anyone on there that is going to qualify in those areas at all. All of the singers have good competant voices, but that's just about the size of it.
But where's the X-Factor?
SULLA
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by susie4964:
“I could tell you the reason for my name, but I'd have to kill you afterwards, so probably best to remain a secret. I remember studying Marius and Sulla many years ago for O-level Latin. Marius sounded extremely nasty, lots of slaughtering, etc. I rather like the name Sulla, though, quite aristocratic. I'm a big fan of Ancient Rome, will be watching the new BBC1 series starting this week.”

BBC2!!!. Featuring Pompey one of Sulla's minions
SULLA
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by XFG:
“Ah. I see where you went wrong. What you need is one of those moderator warnings like they have in the appreciation threads. Something like:

*This is a hate thread please try to keep all posts negative.*

Chico can't sing, he can't dance and he looks like one of those waiters you hear of at cheap package holiday hotels who are hanging out for lonely, single, middle-aged Englishwomen to marry them so they can leave all those blue skies and sunshine (must be awful waking up to that every day) to come and live in the cold and rainy UK.

There, is that negative enough for you? ”

That's fine thankyou. I thought the thread title was self explanatory
susie-4964
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“BBC2!!!. Featuring Pompey one of Sulla's minions ”

Thanks, I'd have figured it out eventually!
dogwalker
31-10-2005
Originally Posted by Stewing:
“Chico is the court jester with no ability, talent, or entertainment factors.he is a tosspot who is so full of himself it is insane..the sooner public dumps him the better.....”

Couldn't agree more. The minute Slime bags gets voted off will be the beginning of the real X Factor. Chico should NOT have made it past the first round - he's an out and out CON man! Until Chico gets voted out the X Factor will remain a farce.
happy girl
31-10-2005
Originally Posted by polish1:
“I think Phillip performed better than Chico tonight. But, do we really need another imitator, which is what he really is.

All I can say re Chico, is my 9 year old son is a fan of the X Factor, and was distraught that Chico was in the bottom two. When I asked why Chico over Phillip, he informed me that Chico is so much more fun and he loves to watch him.

Chico will continue to get through on entertainment value, that's why the public enjoy him.”

That is exactly the question my 9 year old son asked me on saturday!
beanbean
31-10-2005
theres a poll in the mirror today and 97% of their readers said simon made the wrong choice in keeping chico in. If simon reads that i have a feeling he wont be keeping chico in again this week.
i perosnally like chico i think hes a nice anyway
pianissimo
31-10-2005
Originally Posted by beanbean:
“theres a poll in the mirror today and 97% of their readers said simon made the wrong choice in keeping chico in. If simon reads that i have a feeling he wont be keeping chico in again this week.
i perosnally like chico i think hes a nice anyway”

Glad you like him he's cool

I wonder though if they have a poll in other newspapers whether the results will be the same
beanbean
31-10-2005
Originally Posted by melanie34:
“Glad you like him he's cool

I wonder though if they have a poll in other newspapers whether the results will be the same ”


hmm i dunno. I do think chicos a nice guy and i feel sorry for him with the bad press but i think it would have been the same result in other newpapers .
IMO he should be brave and sing a different type of song. He needs to show he can do more than just cheesy no.s then he may get more votes.
Karl Marks
31-10-2005
Originally Posted by beanbean:
“theres a poll in the mirror today and 97% of their readers said simon made the wrong choice in keeping chico in. If simon reads that i have a feeling he wont be keeping chico in again this week.
i perosnally like chico i think hes a nice anyway”

I'm very sceptical about newspaper polls, especially tabloids. Perhaps the Mirror needed to somehow pacify their Northern Irish readership, and so pulled a poll out of thin air to pad their X-Factor story out. As I say, it's the soap opera element of X that's played out in the wider media.
pianissimo
31-10-2005
Originally Posted by beanbean:
“hmm i dunno. I do think chicos a nice guy and i feel sorry for him with the bad press but i think it would have been the same result in other newpapers .
IMO he should be brave and sing a different type of song. He needs to show he can do more than just cheesy no.s then he may get more votes.”

Yeah maybe

He might be better at ballads hopefully we'll find out
SULLA
01-11-2005
Originally Posted by beanbean:
“IMO he should be brave and sing a different type of song. He needs to show he can do more than just cheesy no.s then he may get more votes.”

But needing to do it and being able to do it are two different things. Expect more of the same. It worked for Gary Glitter.
Gillypoots
01-11-2005
Originally Posted by Karl Marks:
“I'm very sceptical about newspaper polls, especially tabloids. Perhaps the Mirror needed to somehow pacify their Northern Irish readership, and so pulled a poll out of thin air to pad their X-Factor story out. As I say, it's the soap opera element of X that's played out in the wider media. ”

My first thought on reading the post about the Mirror poll is, are they supporting one of the artists in their pages already.

I ask this because I can recall one of the tabloids at the time of the first Pop Idol series was plugging Gareth Gates to the hilt and made sure that negative articles appeared about other contestants.
beanbean
01-11-2005
well last week they had a poll and 2/3 of the people said sharon made the right choice in keeping chenai in the 1/3 consisted of people slating louis.
im not sure if the mirror are backing anyone but polly (who writes a column in it) is VERY pro shayne/maria and she hates chico
Gillypoots
01-11-2005
Originally Posted by beanbean:
“well last week they had a poll and 2/3 of the people said sharon made the right choice in keeping chenai in the 1/3 consisted of people slating louis.
im not sure if the mirror are backing anyone but polly (who writes a column in it) is VERY pro shayne/maria and she hates chico”

Well, that may have a bearing then.

Not that I am saying the tabloids don't always tell the truth.........heaven forbid that should be so!
pianissimo
01-11-2005
Originally Posted by Gillypoots:
“Well, that may have a bearing then.

Not that I am saying the tabloids don't always tell the truth.........heaven forbid that should be so! ”

I was think that too, how the poll could have been so biased, and seemingly our little Chico isn't as unpopular as people would like to think, according to the poll on This Morning!
Gillypoots
01-11-2005
Originally Posted by melanie34:
“I was think that too, how the poll could have been so biased, and seemingly our little Chico isn't as unpopular as people would like to think, according to the poll on This Morning!”

I don't know about that, what was the vote for Chico?
pianissimo
01-11-2005
Originally Posted by Gillypoots:
“I don't know about that, what was the vote for Chico?”

I didn't actually see it but I have read it on here today that he was 3rd from bottom above Chenai and Conway Sisters
Gillypoots
01-11-2005
Originally Posted by melanie34:
“I didn't actually see it but I have read it on here today that he was 3rd from bottom above Chenai and Conway Sisters”

Thanks for letting me know Mel.

Well, not all bad then. Thing is we all know that he will have a limited time on the show, but fingers crossed we shall get to see him at least a couple more times before he goes.

Like someone said on one of the threads, for anyone going to see the tour, they need him on it to make the show go with a swing! It would surely be boring without him.
freckleface
01-11-2005
newspaper and tv polls are a useless way of knowing public opinion as they only ever give a percentage figure - not clarifying how many people have voted. for example - They could say 90% of people voted for chico and only 10% for philip...they could get these figures if only 10 people voted and 9 of those voted for chico and 1 for philip. It is not a true representation without actual figures.
Wezzo
01-11-2005
I read the Mirror regularly (ducks from eggs being thrown) but Polly is possibly the worst columnist I've ever come across and I'd take anyone from DS's views far more seriously than hers. They might as well have Karl Marks do it, it'd be more interesting!
metafis
01-11-2005
Originally Posted by melanie34:
“Glad you like him he's cool

I wonder though if they have a poll in other newspapers whether the results will be the same ”

Polls are only accurate if they reflect your personal opinion.
if they dont then they are somehow 'fixed' or suspect.

I could say, look at the DS poll on 'who do you want to win' and 'who do you want out next'.
but that would only be because they agree with my opinion of Chico

Which is, Nice guy, but should'nt be in a show like this.
dogwalker
01-11-2005
Just managed to catch up with a recording of Saturday's X Factor. My what an embarrassment Chico has become. His impersonation of Ricky Martin was the worst thing I've seen on the tele for a long time. Then I looked at the date, of course, it was Halloween and I was watching a horror story.
Whoever told Chico he could double for Ricky Martin was having a laugh. Mind you the three backing singers gave a good rendition of "livin la vida loca". Perhaps they should go through!
Who told him he could dance. I know many dancers, both classical and modern. They would agree with me when I say, Chico CANNOT dance. He moves around the stage - that is all!! There is no passion in his movements.
Simon said, that the public would want Chico back. Well he didn't ask me. Chico OUT Chico OUT!! He's only in the competition becaused he sucked up to Sharon O.
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