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I must admit I am a bit miffed tonight...
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Maddi
29-10-2005
Not a fan of Will at all but what are you talking about??

Firstly what the hell has someone's sexuality got to do with their chances of winning Strictly Come Dancing?

And secondly, of course, Will has a wife and a child which doesn't mean he is not gay but hey the odds are stacked against it!!

Are there really homophobes on a Strictly Come Dancing thread now that is amusing!!??
Bohochick
29-10-2005
Originally Posted by aidious:
“Will is gay so he's bound to win according to some people on these forums”

Yep...he is married with a wife and kid..so I don't think so puddycat.
polish1
29-10-2005
Originally Posted by Maddi:
“Not a fan of Will at all but what are you talking about??

Firstly what the hell has someone's sexuality got to do with their chances of winning Strictly Come Dancing?

And secondly, of course, Will has a wife and a child which doesn't mean he is not gay but hey the odds are stacked against it!!

Are there really homophobes on a Strictly Come Dancing thread now that is amusing!!??”


Sexuality has a whole lot to do with dancing

Though I think Will is particularly gorgeous, I'd be the first to boot him out if I thought he was crap.

Not going to get involved in the sexuality discussion, irrelevant.
Maddi
30-10-2005
Exactly!!!
polish1
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by Maddi:
“Exactly!!!”


Yeah, sexuality has a lot to with with dancing, sexual preference zero.

Good on ya Maddi
bendymixer
30-10-2005
Fiona though improved this week is very poor and should have gone first week - Gloria is not much better so was right decision but Fiona must go soon it would be sad to see them doing well cos people were voting for brendan cos they fancy him (god knows why)
Agent Krycek
30-10-2005
I am begining to get seriously annoyed at the fact Fiona is getting through at the expense of better dancers. Although Gloria's jive wasn't brilliant, at least she did jive, which Fiona did not, and I would have liked to have seen Gloria do a few more ballroom dances as the waltz looked promising. The memory of Chris Parker getting to the final is begining to loom large
bendymixer
30-10-2005
I agree would be a shame if there was another chris parker type situation this year
neddy2000
30-10-2005
I think Fiona improved more than Gloria did this week. However Gloria is better out of the two. People are probably keeping them in to see Brendan.
Maybe if the show had a diferent format where the couples who were out still danced in a seperate part of the show but weren't judged (unrealistic I know) then maybe people would stop voting based on their favourite person.
Also, maybe they should stop this voting all week nonsense. That just encourages fan bases to vote for their favourite person.
Can I just say that I love Anton, Bill, Brendan, Darren and Ian.
bendymixer
30-10-2005
totally agree with not voting all week because it obviously makes it vote for your favourite rather than the dancing - and would be nice to see it based on the dancing and not who fancies which dancer/celeb
SeCuIgEeNnCeE
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“totally agree with not voting all week because it obviously makes it vote for your favourite rather than the dancing - and would be nice to see it based on the dancing and not who fancies which dancer/celeb”

You are right, however one of the aims of the show is to raise money for Children in Need and if they only allowed voting on the night there would not be so much money raised.
Superfan
30-10-2005
[quote=Bohochick]And going by a few threads I read here..I seem to be in a minority.

I am going on what I watch. Nothing else.

Poor Fiona. She has overstayed her chance. I was lucky enough to be Julian Clary's Superfan last year and he did deserve to go through as far as he did due to his continued improvement. Julian is a gentle person and it was difficult for him to adopt the role of Passion when needed but he tried and he pulled it off. His technique was very good also. Fiona however, is a different matter. She just hasn't grasped any of the basics and more often than not she appears to be clinging desperately to Brendan in the hope that he will pull her round the dance floor. Voters need to give the others a chance. This is about turning non dancers into dancers and improvement so why waste your votes on Fiona who (lets face it) will not improve to the standard of the others. Who would have thought that James and Darren could do so well. They are fab and I think the winner will come from either one of these this year. It is the year of the Male Dancer to win and what an exciting competition so far!! I do feel a little sorry for Brendan though as this is 2 years in a row where he has been lumbered with a Bag of Spanners!!! Give him a fighting chance next year and find a partner who will at least try for him!!
Catherine1972
30-10-2005
It should have been Fiona who went last night. Gloria was the second worst and Dennis the third!

Will wasn't that bad at all, and Bill was unfairly judged because of the skirt Karen wore!

The thing that annoys me is that Fiona stood a chance of staying at the expense of Will or Bill, and that's not fair!

Surely the ones who are voting for Fiona could vote for another dancer - one who shows better ability than her!

The whole voting system is flawed. Not only do the public have a chance to bolster the vote before the evening, but the likes of Arlene already have preconceived ideas and will vote according to who they like, not on ability!

No way was Dennis and Gloria better than Bill last night - yet Arlene gave them higher marks!

Arlenes behaviour generally last night was appalling - she is so determined to be the bitch, but she fails miserably and looks pathetically biased!
Agent Krycek
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by Catherine1972:
“It should have been Fiona who went last night.”

Fiona should have gone every time, we've already lost two potentially better dancers because they don't have the same sort of fan base as she (or possibly Brendan) does, I was really looking foward to seeing how Jaye's relationship withe Zorro would develop and, going by last nights demonstration dance, Matthew Cutler (sp?) looked a tremendous dancer, but now we've lost Gloria who, although it was never going to win it, at least put some effort in and seemed to enjoy the experience. If anyone else goes over Fiona, without some drastic improvement on her part, I'll be hopping mad. I have serious worries that it'll be Will that goes next week, and he's definately got potential.
Aida
30-10-2005
I agree with the sentiments expressed about the strange metamorphosis of Arlene (in particular) and can't help but wonder if she's been advised by the show's producers to 'big up' the bitchiness in order to stop viewers switching over to the X-factor during the judges' summing up?
The 'Fiona phenomenon' is understandable when her popularity with the 'Nanas' who watch GMTV is taken into consideration .. not to mention the fact that if she goes, so does the arrogant but very sexy Brendan!
JoJo4
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by Bohochick:
“And going by a few threads I read here..I seem to be in a minority.

I am going on what I watch. Nothing else.

I do not watch GMTV or even really know of Fiona..just I see other dancers trying as hard as her, and they are better.

Don't they all deserve the sympathy vote or whatever, too?

Apologies if I seem to have upset the Fiona vote. Just, as with Julian Clarey last year..I thought he deserved it as he got really good by the end. Just I don't see this this time..and there you go.



I must be in a minority and never want to upset anyone. But I have to stick to my views...as a neutral..I guess. ”

You are not alone - I completely agree with you! Fiiona is a perfectly OK woman and good at what she does - but dancing? No - she is the worst celeb in the history of the programme - worse than the worst men even! It's really not fair that people vote for her as an individual - it's the dancing that matters.

I know nothing at all about dancing, but I know what isn't fair - and the fact that she's still there is just not on. At least last night it was only Gloria who was sacrificed and she's no loss!
JoJo4
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by Catherine1972:
“It should have been Fiona who went last night. Gloria was the second worst and Dennis the third!

Will wasn't that bad at all, and Bill was unfairly judged because of the skirt Karen wore!

The thing that annoys me is that Fiona stood a chance of staying at the expense of Will or Bill, and that's not fair!

Surely the ones who are voting for Fiona could vote for another dancer - one who shows better ability than her!

The whole voting system is flawed. Not only do the public have a chance to bolster the vote before the evening, but the likes of Arlene already have preconceived ideas and will vote according to who they like, not on ability!

No way was Dennis and Gloria better than Bill last night - yet Arlene gave them higher marks!

Arlenes behaviour generally last night was appalling - she is so determined to be the bitch, but she fails miserably and looks pathetically biased!”

Arlene is trying to be the Sharon Osborne of BBC1 - but she has absolutely no chance
SeCuIgEeNnCeE
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“You are not alone - I completely agree with you! Fiiona is a perfectly OK woman and good at what she does - but dancing? No - she is the worst celeb in the history of the programme - worse than the worst men even! It's really not fair that people vote for her as an individual - it's the dancing that matters.”

Well said! I keep having visions of David (orange) Dickinson and his 'dancing hands' which really made me laugh. There is nothing remotely funny about watching Fiona trying to dance - it's painful.
xadie
30-10-2005
I know I'm going against the flow here, but i did think that Bill wasn't up to much last night, wheras Dennis was about the only celeb that looked like he actually knew what to do with a jive. I do think that Arlene gets biased, but mainly because she tends to look for the same faults that she saw one week in the following weeks, and if she spots them again she concentrates on that instead of rewarding the dance as a whole. I think that Craig, nasty as he is in the way that he expresses his opinions, is usually right in the scores that he gives.
bendymixer
30-10-2005
I dont think Arlene any more critical in the show than she can be in 'real life' normally agree with what she says sometimes she is over critical - whilst I enjoy bills performances very much if you are looking at technique he is not one of the best.

Darren G is a revelation but James? I thought he was overmarked last night annd still think Colin far better even with last nights hiccup
Lippincote
30-10-2005
I agree with Agent K, I am beginning to worry about a Chris Parker situation.

I didn't mind Julian staying in last year - because he did improve, and because he was good entertainment. But I didn't find CP entertaining, nor do I find watching Fiona murder yet another dance entertaining.

It's worrying that Fiona wasn't in the bottom two this week. We could shortly have a situation where someone who is a lot better, like Bill or Dennis, gets the boot instead of her.

I can't stand Fiona on gmtv, but I simply feel sorry for her on SCD. It's embarrassing watching the poor graceless woman clodhopping around week after week. It is also painful to see how Brendan has been treating her, can't be doing much to improve her confidence.
JoJo4
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by mindyann:
“No - I agree with you (in fact just posted something on another thread before I saw this one).
To me, it's not just that she can't dance (heck neither can I!) it's just that she dosen't appear to be a) trying or b) enjoying it.
I think that if she could at least come across as having a good time then the fact that she isn't technically perfect wouldn't be so bad.
I think if Brendon could just try to get across some of his love and enthusiasm of dance this week (like Eron did last year with Julian. He wasn't very good but at least he tried and did enjoy it) it could help.
And, can she stop making excuses - Patsy has more kids than her and one f them has chicken pox but she hasn't made a big deal out of it!”

I agree with all of the above (I' very agreeable today)! - I don't think she is trying and she defininately doens't seem to be enjoying it one bit. I suppose you could take into account the awful hours she must have to keep, but she knew that when she agreed to do it. I think she thought she'd be much better than she it, and she's a bit sulky now that she's not. I'm not mad about Brendan but I feel for him with Fiona - he does everything he can to choreograph the dances to help her and all she seems to do is moan.

Her GMTV fans would do her a favour by voting less if you ask me
JoJo4
30-10-2005
Originally Posted by Catherine1972:
“It should have been Fiona who went last night. Gloria was the second worst and Dennis the third!

Will wasn't that bad at all, and Bill was unfairly judged because of the skirt Karen wore!

The thing that annoys me is that Fiona stood a chance of staying at the expense of Will or Bill, and that's not fair!

Surely the ones who are voting for Fiona could vote for another dancer - one who shows better ability than her!

The whole voting system is flawed. Not only do the public have a chance to bolster the vote before the evening, but the likes of Arlene already have preconceived ideas and will vote according to who they like, not on ability!

No way was Dennis and Gloria better than Bill last night - yet Arlene gave them higher marks!

Arlenes behaviour generally last night was appalling - she is so determined to be the bitch, but she fails miserably and looks pathetically biased!”

At the very least Bill, Dennis and Will appear to be enjoying themselves and put in the effort. Bill was upset about the comments last night because he really wants to stay - when Fiona gets critical comment she just grins and nods her head - it must make Brendan very depressed.
janemarie
30-10-2005
Fiona can't dance. My mum and I watched her last night and thought she was awful. Her arms were terrible (something that I picked out) her feet were all over the place but at least she seemed to be enjoying herself.
It also seemed to me that Brendan was doing all the hard work to get those judges to give higher votes.
Personally I don't think that she should have got back. Everytime I watch ITT with all those FP clips Fiona looks and even says that she dosen't want to do it. Why then did she take the offer? I thnk that Fiona was talked into it and she couldn't say no. Fiona has no intentions to dance so why make her do it.
These are my opinons. Does anybody agreee.
Mrs Harman
30-10-2005
My mum has a whole theory about Fiona. Yes she is tres crap but from what Brendan and other competitors have said she is often really good in rehearsal and it all goes to shit on the night. Now, after the first two weeks she cant even rehearse without putting herself down. My Mum thinks that this is because her husband Martin Frizell said to her she should do SCD as long as she didn't "get shagger Brendan" she has said as much in interviews. We think she falls to pieces on the night because Frizell is in the audience watching her with his beady eyes for any sign of a recurrence of the Kaplinsky saga and it makes her self conscious. She feels like she can't look like she enjoys it therefore there is no joie de vivre in her dancing.

No i've not voted for her (Go Anton! Go Bill!) but I think Arlene's suggestion of Paul McKenna is possibly a good one because I think its her psyche thats stopping her.

Also while Gloria and Darren didn't deserve to go, I'm not particularly sorry they have their performance kind of made me think of the favourite gay son dancing with his pissed elderly mum at a wedding.

I do know Darren isn't gay though!
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