Sony or Samsung 26" LCD

dannysayer · 31-10-2005, 00:03

I have been looking at buying a new TV and could not decide between the Samsung LE26R41BDX and the Sony BRAVIA KDLS26A12U. Both TV's are HD ready and both round the same price. Could anyone please recomend which is the best out of the 2 TV's. I would use it also for when the Xbox 360 comes out

Coljj · 31-10-2005, 02:13

www.avforums.com is probably the best place for you to ask this.

Dan27 · 31-10-2005, 08:39

Danny, I'd go for the Samsung. They seem to have more of a handle on LCD technology. Sony are just starting to perfect their technology after a few years of producing Vega plasmas.

dsweetenham · 31-10-2005, 08:50

Ive got the Samsung its a great buy and has done well in most magazine reviews too. There is a 'tearing' issue on certain inputs but Samsung send you the kit to upgrade the firmware for free. Just waiting now for SKY HD....

shrek · 31-10-2005, 11:44

Just got my Samsung today with Freeview didnt realise that the tv also have an analogue tuner in too as well as a cam slot for Toptv.

Great picture seemed to me at least better after a while being turned on, maybe its just me. Connected to a Humax 9200T freeview box so I have the best of both worlds.

I aim to connect to a pc latre this week once I get my new tv stand and netgear pci wireless card for connection to network.

So far well pleased.

10bii · 31-10-2005, 11:50

The newest Sony's are the best LCDs made. They obviously have a greater colour gamut with super bright saturation and extremely high contrast. They look noticeably better than the Samsungs.

dannysayer · 31-10-2005, 14:09

Thanks alot. I think i will go tocomet or currys arehave a look at both of them there. Thanks again

gorf · 31-10-2005, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10bii

The newest Sony's are the best LCDs made. They obviously have a greater colour gamut with super bright saturation and extremely high contrast. They look noticeably better than the Samsungs.

Dont think Sony has made the best LCD out of any theyve released so far. Although judging picture quality is actually a very subjective thing in the end. The samsung looks good but for me its quite an artificial almost cartoon like picture, while Sony is a little grainier but more natural looking. Depends how you respond to it when you see it in the shop or wherever.
But just for the record theres a lot of talk comparing Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, Loewe etc. but for me the Phillips32PF9830 leaves ALL other screens completely and utterly in the shade, so much so that the ultimatley subjective comparisons made between ALL the others are made a bit irrellevant as the Phillips takes the whole market sector to the next level.
In other words what im trying to say is that the Phillips picture will win you over regardless of any concious or unconcious preferences for different nuances of television picture attributes.
Yes its expensive but the prices will (and are) begin to fall.
Eg. You can buy one in Selfridges for £1999 (phew) or you can get as low as around £1700 or even (if you believe them) £1500, although such a price does raise suspicions.

10bii · 31-10-2005, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by gorf

Dont think Sony has made the best LCD out of any theyve released so far. Although judging picture quality is actually a very subjective thing in the end. The samsung looks good but for me its quite an artificial almost cartoon like picture, while Sony is a little grainier but more natural looking. Depends how you respond to it when you see it in the shop or wherever.
But just for the record theres a lot of talk comparing Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, Loewe etc. but for me the Phillips32PF9830 leaves ALL other screens completely and utterly in the shade, so much so that the ultimatley subjective comparisons made between ALL the others are made a bit irrellevant as the Phillips takes the whole market sector to the next level.
In other words what im trying to say is that the Phillips picture will win you over regardless of any concious or unconcious preferences for different nuances of television picture attributes.
Yes its expensive but the prices will (and are) begin to fall.
Eg. You can buy one in Selfridges for £1999 (phew) or you can get as low as around £1700 or even (if you believe them) £1500, although such a price does raise suspicions.

Maybe you haven't seen the latest Sony LCDs? Their Bravia line?

Most of the newest LCDs are excellent, but the Bravia Sonys have the best colour gamut and are overall the best in realistic rendition that I have seen.

call100 · 31-10-2005, 21:43

Samsung make the Sony Lcd panels. Sony is no longer a leading brand more middle of the road.

10bii · 01-11-2005, 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by call100

Samsung make the Sony Lcd panels. Sony is no longer a leading brand more middle of the road.

They may or may not make them but Sony is certainly adding their technology and specifications to them for them to be so obviously different in visual (picture) appearance.

SimonMc · 01-11-2005, 09:35

Just took delivery of the Samsung LR6R41B yesterday. Looked forward to stunning LCD display but appear to have harsh, unpleasant TV picture. Difficult to convince my wife now that the £700 was worth it! The DVD picture seems okay but the Digibox pictures are worse than my old CRT 4:3 TV that I've had from before we were married (12 years!!).

Both are connected via the SCART sockets. Any ideas???

10bii · 01-11-2005, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonMc

Just took delivery of the Samsung LR6R41B yesterday. Looked forward to stunning LCD display but appear to have harsh, unpleasant TV picture. Difficult to convince my wife now that the £700 was worth it! The DVD picture seems okay but the Digibox pictures are worse than my old CRT 4:3 TV that I've had from before we were married (12 years!!).

Both are connected via the SCART sockets. Any ideas???

You may never be satisfied with standard definition TV and DVD on an HD display, assuming your display is HD resolution capable. HD displays need an HD signal to look proper.

David (2) · 01-11-2005, 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannysayer

I have been looking at buying a new TV and could not decide between the Samsung LE26R41BDX and the Sony BRAVIA KDLS26A12U. Both TV's are HD ready and both round the same price. Could anyone please recomend which is the best out of the 2 TV's. I would use it also for when the Xbox 360 comes out

Pay the extra and get a Panasonic. Better than both the Samsung and Sony (the latest Sonys are made by Samsung anyway).

Dave

10bii · 01-11-2005, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (2)

Pay the extra and get a Panasonic. Better than both the Samsung and Sony (the latest Sonys are made by Samsung anyway).

Dave

The latest Sonys are still to a different spec with proprietary improvements.

SimonMc · 01-11-2005, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10bii

You may never be satisfied with standard definition TV and DVD on an HD display, assuming your display is HD resolution capable. HD displays need an HD signal to look proper.

Hmm, if you say so, but surely it shouldn't look worse than the original?

camaj · 01-11-2005, 12:53

It shouldn't but somehow it does. I think it's all to do with the scaler. It has to add information into the picture to get the resolution increase.

I hope reviews of HD sets make a point of talking about how good SD material looks

glenmcfar · 01-11-2005, 16:15

I've got the 32inch samsung and it's wonderful, can't say about the sony cos i don't have one.

10bii · 01-11-2005, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonMc

Hmm, if you say so, but surely it shouldn't look worse than the original?

It does because you are trying to add information that doesn't exist. Not even in still photography can it be done where it looks as good as the orginal.

SimonMc · 01-11-2005, 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenmcfar

I've got the 32inch samsung and it's wonderful, can't say about the sony cos i don't have one.

What are you watching on it...Digital/Analogue TV, DVD, PC...?

shrek · 02-11-2005, 11:42

I connected the Samsung HD to pc via D-sub, I was impressed, but havent yet connected it via HDMI, I wuld have to get an adapter. Also woudl dealy love a home cinema receiver/speakers to enchance the sound

The Mc · 04-11-2005, 22:07

I got a 32 in amsung LCD with Freeview but discovered that by just browsing Froogle on Google I could pick up the TV over £300 cheaper than Comet and Currys! I got the Samsung for £899 off a smaller shop that trades on the net whilst at Currys it was £1,199 which meant that I could also afford the High Definition Samsung DVD layer for £95....a great bargain also.

scuttster · 08-11-2005, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mc

I got a 32 in amsung LCD with Freeview but discovered that by just browsing Froogle on Google I could pick up the TV over £300 cheaper than Comet and Currys! I got the Samsung for £899 off a smaller shop that trades on the net whilst at Currys it was £1,199 which meant that I could also afford the High Definition Samsung DVD layer for £95....a great bargain also.

Biggest problem with your price to the currys one is that the model currys sell is exclusive to DSGi (Currys, Dixons, PC WORLD) so you cannot say you got the same one for £900 while the currys one is £1200

KidA · 09-11-2005, 10:21

I'm also looking to buy an HD television and it has to be Black, looks far less cheaper then Silver, the Samsung telly looks like a bargain and I've noticed that there is a model £50 cheaper without Freeview (which I don't need as I'm getting a twin tuner recorder) it really does seem like a popular buy, anything I should be weary of though?

Or is it worth looking at other models? LG also looks good but not as reasonable.

Thanks for your help folks

iain · 09-11-2005, 12:23

the new bravias look fantastic - and have had great user reviews on sites like cnet.

was in john lewis the other day and they had a panasonic (?) veira (?) with HD material playing - and it looks phenominal. definitely need to start saving with a view to replacing the sony in 2007 - by which time it will be about 8 yrs old, and there will hopefully be some HD material being broadcast.

might be tricky to convince the wife tho' - the sony is still doing a good job, although does suffer from screen bowing - although its only really noticable when graphics are on screen, eg news banners.

Iain

31-10-2005, 00:03	#1
dannysayer Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2	Sony or Samsung 26" LCD I have been looking at buying a new TV and could not decide between the Samsung LE26R41BDX and the Sony BRAVIA KDLS26A12U. Both TV's are HD ready and both round the same price. Could anyone please recomend which is the best out of the 2 TV's. I would use it also for when the Xbox 360 comes out

31-10-2005, 02:13	#2
Coljj Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 3,118	www.avforums.com is probably the best place for you to ask this.

31-10-2005, 08:39	#3
Dan27 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: By The Sea Posts: 9,574	Danny, I'd go for the Samsung. They seem to have more of a handle on LCD technology. Sony are just starting to perfect their technology after a few years of producing Vega plasmas.

31-10-2005, 08:50	#4
dsweetenham Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: . Posts: 2,105	Ive got the Samsung its a great buy and has done well in most magazine reviews too. There is a 'tearing' issue on certain inputs but Samsung send you the kit to upgrade the firmware for free. Just waiting now for SKY HD....

31-10-2005, 11:44	#5
shrek Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Here, at my desk Posts: 813	Just got my Samsung today with Freeview didnt realise that the tv also have an analogue tuner in too as well as a cam slot for Toptv. Great picture seemed to me at least better after a while being turned on, maybe its just me. Connected to a Humax 9200T freeview box so I have the best of both worlds. I aim to connect to a pc latre this week once I get my new tv stand and netgear pci wireless card for connection to network. So far well pleased.

31-10-2005, 11:50	#6
10bii Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 49	The newest Sony's are the best LCDs made. They obviously have a greater colour gamut with super bright saturation and extremely high contrast. They look noticeably better than the Samsungs.

31-10-2005, 14:09	#7
dannysayer Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2	Thanks alot. I think i will go tocomet or currys arehave a look at both of them there. Thanks again

31-10-2005, 14:54	#8
gorf Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	Quote: Originally Posted by 10bii The newest Sony's are the best LCDs made. They obviously have a greater colour gamut with super bright saturation and extremely high contrast. They look noticeably better than the Samsungs. Dont think Sony has made the best LCD out of any theyve released so far. Although judging picture quality is actually a very subjective thing in the end. The samsung looks good but for me its quite an artificial almost cartoon like picture, while Sony is a little grainier but more natural looking. Depends how you respond to it when you see it in the shop or wherever. But just for the record theres a lot of talk comparing Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, Loewe etc. but for me the Phillips32PF9830 leaves ALL other screens completely and utterly in the shade, so much so that the ultimatley subjective comparisons made between ALL the others are made a bit irrellevant as the Phillips takes the whole market sector to the next level. In other words what im trying to say is that the Phillips picture will win you over regardless of any concious or unconcious preferences for different nuances of television picture attributes. Yes its expensive but the prices will (and are) begin to fall. Eg. You can buy one in Selfridges for £1999 (phew) or you can get as low as around £1700 or even (if you believe them) £1500, although such a price does raise suspicions.

31-10-2005, 16:17	#9
10bii Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 49	Quote: Originally Posted by gorf Dont think Sony has made the best LCD out of any theyve released so far. Although judging picture quality is actually a very subjective thing in the end. The samsung looks good but for me its quite an artificial almost cartoon like picture, while Sony is a little grainier but more natural looking. Depends how you respond to it when you see it in the shop or wherever. But just for the record theres a lot of talk comparing Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, Loewe etc. but for me the Phillips32PF9830 leaves ALL other screens completely and utterly in the shade, so much so that the ultimatley subjective comparisons made between ALL the others are made a bit irrellevant as the Phillips takes the whole market sector to the next level. In other words what im trying to say is that the Phillips picture will win you over regardless of any concious or unconcious preferences for different nuances of television picture attributes. Yes its expensive but the prices will (and are) begin to fall. Eg. You can buy one in Selfridges for £1999 (phew) or you can get as low as around £1700 or even (if you believe them) £1500, although such a price does raise suspicions. Maybe you haven't seen the latest Sony LCDs? Their Bravia line? Most of the newest LCDs are excellent, but the Bravia Sonys have the best colour gamut and are overall the best in realistic rendition that I have seen.

31-10-2005, 21:43	#10
call100 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,572	Samsung make the Sony Lcd panels. Sony is no longer a leading brand more middle of the road.

01-11-2005, 01:50	#11
10bii Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 49	Quote: Originally Posted by call100 Samsung make the Sony Lcd panels. Sony is no longer a leading brand more middle of the road. They may or may not make them but Sony is certainly adding their technology and specifications to them for them to be so obviously different in visual (picture) appearance.

01-11-2005, 09:35	#12
SimonMc Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sheffield Posts: 47	Just took delivery of the Samsung LR6R41B yesterday. Looked forward to stunning LCD display but appear to have harsh, unpleasant TV picture. Difficult to convince my wife now that the £700 was worth it! The DVD picture seems okay but the Digibox pictures are worse than my old CRT 4:3 TV that I've had from before we were married (12 years!!). Both are connected via the SCART sockets. Any ideas???

01-11-2005, 11:05	#13
10bii Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 49	Quote: Originally Posted by SimonMc Just took delivery of the Samsung LR6R41B yesterday. Looked forward to stunning LCD display but appear to have harsh, unpleasant TV picture. Difficult to convince my wife now that the £700 was worth it! The DVD picture seems okay but the Digibox pictures are worse than my old CRT 4:3 TV that I've had from before we were married (12 years!!). Both are connected via the SCART sockets. Any ideas??? You may never be satisfied with standard definition TV and DVD on an HD display, assuming your display is HD resolution capable. HD displays need an HD signal to look proper.

01-11-2005, 11:25	#14
David (2) Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: S.West England. Posts: 18,037	Quote: Originally Posted by dannysayer I have been looking at buying a new TV and could not decide between the Samsung LE26R41BDX and the Sony BRAVIA KDLS26A12U. Both TV's are HD ready and both round the same price. Could anyone please recomend which is the best out of the 2 TV's. I would use it also for when the Xbox 360 comes out Pay the extra and get a Panasonic. Better than both the Samsung and Sony (the latest Sonys are made by Samsung anyway). Dave

01-11-2005, 11:40	#15
10bii Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 49	Quote: Originally Posted by David (2) Pay the extra and get a Panasonic. Better than both the Samsung and Sony (the latest Sonys are made by Samsung anyway). Dave The latest Sonys are still to a different spec with proprietary improvements.

01-11-2005, 11:48	#16
SimonMc Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sheffield Posts: 47	Quote: Originally Posted by 10bii You may never be satisfied with standard definition TV and DVD on an HD display, assuming your display is HD resolution capable. HD displays need an HD signal to look proper. Hmm, if you say so, but surely it shouldn't look worse than the original?

01-11-2005, 12:53	#17
camaj Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 813	It shouldn't but somehow it does. I think it's all to do with the scaler. It has to add information into the picture to get the resolution increase. I hope reviews of HD sets make a point of talking about how good SD material looks

01-11-2005, 16:15	#18
glenmcfar Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dundonald, Ayrshire, Scotland Posts: 868	I've got the 32inch samsung and it's wonderful, can't say about the sony cos i don't have one.

01-11-2005, 16:16	#19
10bii Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 49	Quote: Originally Posted by SimonMc Hmm, if you say so, but surely it shouldn't look worse than the original? It does because you are trying to add information that doesn't exist. Not even in still photography can it be done where it looks as good as the orginal.

01-11-2005, 16:27	#20
SimonMc Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sheffield Posts: 47	Quote: Originally Posted by glenmcfar I've got the 32inch samsung and it's wonderful, can't say about the sony cos i don't have one. What are you watching on it...Digital/Analogue TV, DVD, PC...?

02-11-2005, 11:42	#21
shrek Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Here, at my desk Posts: 813	I connected the Samsung HD to pc via D-sub, I was impressed, but havent yet connected it via HDMI, I wuld have to get an adapter. Also woudl dealy love a home cinema receiver/speakers to enchance the sound

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Sony or Samsung 26" LCD

04-11-2005, 22:07	#22
The Mc Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Selby, North Yorkshire Posts: 3,562	I got a 32 in amsung LCD with Freeview but discovered that by just browsing Froogle on Google I could pick up the TV over £300 cheaper than Comet and Currys! I got the Samsung for £899 off a smaller shop that trades on the net whilst at Currys it was £1,199 which meant that I could also afford the High Definition Samsung DVD layer for £95....a great bargain also.

08-11-2005, 22:14	#23
scuttster Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	Quote: Originally Posted by The Mc I got a 32 in amsung LCD with Freeview but discovered that by just browsing Froogle on Google I could pick up the TV over £300 cheaper than Comet and Currys! I got the Samsung for £899 off a smaller shop that trades on the net whilst at Currys it was £1,199 which meant that I could also afford the High Definition Samsung DVD layer for £95....a great bargain also. Biggest problem with your price to the currys one is that the model currys sell is exclusive to DSGi (Currys, Dixons, PC WORLD) so you cannot say you got the same one for £900 while the currys one is £1200

09-11-2005, 10:21	#24
KidA Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 387	I'm also looking to buy an HD television and it has to be Black, looks far less cheaper then Silver, the Samsung telly looks like a bargain and I've noticed that there is a model £50 cheaper without Freeview (which I don't need as I'm getting a twin tuner recorder) it really does seem like a popular buy, anything I should be weary of though? Or is it worth looking at other models? LG also looks good but not as reasonable. Thanks for your help folks

09-11-2005, 12:23	#25
iain Guest Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 62,990	the new bravias look fantastic - and have had great user reviews on sites like cnet. was in john lewis the other day and they had a panasonic (?) veira (?) with HD material playing - and it looks phenominal. definitely need to start saving with a view to replacing the sony in 2007 - by which time it will be about 8 yrs old, and there will hopefully be some HD material being broadcast. might be tricky to convince the wife tho' - the sony is still doing a good job, although does suffer from screen bowing - although its only really noticable when graphics are on screen, eg news banners. Iain