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Old 31-10-2005, 09:37
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Both this week and last he's shown himself incapable of actually selling a song. All the notes may be there in roughly the right places, but there's no commitment, or conviction. I though so last week, and was happy to have Simon back me up this week.
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Old 31-10-2005, 09:41
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You're right. He lacks the X Factor. Technically he's good at singing, but there's no emotion and it seems as if he's just going through the motions. And Summer of '69 was far from the best song for him anyway.
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Old 31-10-2005, 11:15
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That's what bothers me too. In the first week I thought that I liked his voice, but couldn't work out what it was that was unconvincing, until Simon said about his phrasing being poor. I think phrasing is just part of it, and it's because he doesn't think about the meaning of the songs or how to communicate them. He was singing about the Summer of 69 as if it was a trip to the shops to get baked beans.
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Old 31-10-2005, 11:17
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I think he's well over-rated, sang the song like a boybander, it needs grit and passion!!
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Old 31-10-2005, 11:34
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Totally agree with all these comments. Saw Bryan Adams at Wembley a few years back and he dragged a member of the audience on stage to sing the first verse of 'Summer of '69' - The bloke was brilliant - nervous - but sang with amazing passion and conviction - and he was just a bod! Got a huge round of applause and can remember Bryan Adam being impressed too - said something along the lines that the guy better go back to the audience as he was stealing his thunder!

Anyway - my point being that Shayne could have learned a thing or two from the performance I saw -

Starting to feel that Shayne is just a male version of a bimbo - pretty to look at but actually a bit vacant when it comes to anything deeper.
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Old 31-10-2005, 11:42
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Originally Posted by Jeanie
Totally agree with all these comments. Saw Bryan Adams at Wembley a few years back and he dragged a member of the audience on stage to sing the first verse of 'Summer of '69' - The bloke was brilliant - nervous - but sang with amazing passion and conviction - and he was just a bod! Got a huge round of applause and can remember Bryan Adam being impressed too - said something along the lines that the guy better go back to the audience as he was stealing his thunder!

Anyway - my point being that Shayne could have learned a thing or two from the performance I saw -

Starting to feel that Shayne is just a male version of a bimbo - pretty to look at but actually a bit vacant when it comes to anything deeper.
Hi Jeanie, yeah, I agree. He's just another generic pop singer. There's nothing original there. His rendition was lame to say the least. No grit, no passion, no rawness, just crushingly boring and bland. Still the girlies like him but his appeal will be pretty short lived, I think, because there's nothing going on in there.....
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Old 31-10-2005, 11:46
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I suspect that anyone with the "x factor" is weeded out long before they get to see the celebrity judges. For Shayne it's a case of someone whispering in his ear "play it safe son and you've got it in the bag". The whole Shayne package falls into the category of "we've see and heard it all before" but as far as the X Factor production line is concerned, he's safe and reliable to make the show look polished and good each week and, potentially, Shayne could do as well as Will Young once it's all over (regardless of who wins, since that doesn't really matter). In a few years from now Shayne will be releasing his 3rd album of elevator music which won include a cover of The Only Way Is Up because that would be too confusing.
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Old 31-10-2005, 11:48
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I get the impression Shayne thinks he has won already, so why bother trying?

I see much more emotion in the performances of those who think they have no chance of winning than those that think they have the competition sewn up already.
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Old 31-10-2005, 12:19
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Originally Posted by *Sparkle*
That's what bothers me too. In the first week I thought that I liked his voice, but couldn't work out what it was that was unconvincing, until Simon said about his phrasing being poor. I think phrasing is just part of it, and it's because he doesn't think about the meaning of the songs or how to communicate them. He was singing about the Summer of 69 as if it was a trip to the shops to get baked beans.
Well, let's face it, he wasn't born in the summer of '69. The fault lies with Louis, who once again chose a totally inappropriate song.
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Old 31-10-2005, 14:13
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Made me laugh when louis said journey south shouldn't sing rock or something along those lines & i was thinking thats rich after shaynes attempt at '69, i think js could have made a much better job of '69..
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Old 31-10-2005, 14:29
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I thought he was excellent the week before last but I had to fast forward half of his Summer of '69 effort.If he tries a song like that when there are only five or six left he could be out.
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Old 31-10-2005, 14:41
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Originally Posted by Spiv
Made me laugh when louis said journey south shouldn't sing rock or something along those lines & i was thinking thats rich after shaynes attempt at '69, i think js could have made a much better job of '69..
Well spotted. Louis actually said something like he thought they should never make a rock album. wtf does he know!? Stupid man.

Shayne just practices singing by numbers. He hits the right notes (mostly), but has the passion of a stale crust. He's wet, increasingly arrogant and just plain boring.
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Old 31-10-2005, 14:44
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Originally Posted by SayWhat?
I think he's well over-rated, sang the song like a boybander, it needs grit and passion!!

Absolutely spot on!!! It is a rock song and it needs a rock voice !!
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Old 31-10-2005, 14:52
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I agree! he's so far up his own backside he's touching his fillings!
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Old 31-10-2005, 14:52
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Originally Posted by nomy
Well spotted. Louis actually said something like he thought they should never make a rock album. wtf does he know!? Stupid man.

Shayne just practices singing by numbers. He hits the right notes (mostly), but has the passion of a stale crust. He's wet, increasingly arrogant and just plain boring.
I tend to agree - the thing is he is lucky that he is in Louis's group - he ticks all the boxes for the sort of act that Louis goes for..
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Old 31-10-2005, 14:53
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I was unexpectedly impressed by Shayne's rendition of the Bedingfield song but Summer of '69 was a very poor choice for him. He is a ballad/pop singer not a rocker. If they wanted him to cover Bryan Adams they should have given him "Heaven" or "Everything I Do", songs of a much more suitable tempo and range for him.

They'd better allow him to play to his strengths this week or they could find his support starting to dwindle.
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Old 31-10-2005, 16:17
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Originally Posted by nomy
Well spotted. Louis actually said something like he thought they should never make a rock album. wtf does he know!? Stupid man.

Shayne just practices singing by numbers. He hits the right notes (mostly), but has the passion of a stale crust. He's wet, increasingly arrogant and just plain boring.
If Shayne is indeed arrogant, and assumes that he's great, then that would explain his response to Simon's pretty valid comment about the song and the manner in which he sang it.

An arrogant person wouldn't think that they need to develop or change things to get better, because the arrogance leads them to think that they are the best as the way they are, thus making them think that they don't even need to get better.
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Old 31-10-2005, 16:51
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Originally Posted by Alrightmate
If Shayne is indeed arrogant, and assumes that he's great, then that would explain his response to Simon's pretty valid comment about the song and the manner in which he sang it.

An arrogant person wouldn't think that they need to develop or change things to get better, because the arrogance leads them to think that they are the best as the way they are, thus making them think that they don't even need to get better.
True. However, it's also fair comment to say, as Shayne did, that if you sing a Bryan Adams song, you don't have to sing it the way Bryan Adams would.
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Old 31-10-2005, 17:07
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I really think in my hearts, heart that Shayne will be shock voted out in the next few weeks! he has a good voice and is a good looking guy but could you imagine a whole set of just him! it would bore me to tears!
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Old 31-10-2005, 17:52
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Originally Posted by lulu g
True. However, it's also fair comment to say, as Shayne did, that if you sing a Bryan Adams song, you don't have to sing it the way Bryan Adams would.
Yes but that wasn't what Simon suggested.

He just meant that there had to be some character in the voice to sound slightly weathered and experienced.

And he wasn't saying that you should sing a Bryan Adams song a particular way,..he was just talking about this particular song.

Either Shayne didn't grasp what Simon was saying because he didn't consider Simon's comments and their relevance to to how they were connected to the actual lyrics of the song in question.

Or Shayne just never thinks about the lyrics of any song he sings anyway.

Or Shayne just didn't want to consider what Simon said, so didn't want to even go there. Just thought he might look bad, so immediately went onto the defensive.

Which wasn't what Shayne said the week before. In the middle of a huge round of applause from the studio audience, and just after receiving glowing praise from all the judges, Shayne announced that he will be happy to take on criticisms from the judges in the future.

Easy thing to say when you're Mr. Popular at the time and you're lapping it all up because everyone seems to love you.
Different matter altogether in reality, when the judges actually do offer some constructive criticism.

So Shayne's noble speech the week before was nothing more than lipservice to the crowd. Straight out of the 'Jeff Brazier' book of licking up to a TV show audience crowd.

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Old 31-10-2005, 18:14
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I don't get what's so great about Shayne -don't find him attractive and he's blander than bland!
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Old 31-10-2005, 18:50
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Originally Posted by ppanther
I don't get what's so great about Shayne -don't find him attractive and he's blander than bland!
I'm afraid that's what the GBP like, bland and handsome, he will win IMO.
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Old 31-10-2005, 19:34
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Bland - ten a penny boy. Average voice, average good looks....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Boring. No energy, no kazaam, no spark of performing genius. I like a crowd rocker and he aint one!

I must admit that I thought he did a smashing job of the D Bedingfield song - but I think that song is a skoosh to sing - no challenge, just a nice emotionally charged song.

SO69 was a 'music train wreck' (ducks from ShortySally and Wee Ding Dong). Cheeky thing to ruin that song....and ruin it he did.

And reports say that Louis is giving him a contract? Well...great just don't bother voting then...between that and the Cons already having a contract...what's the point?
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Old 31-10-2005, 19:41
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Shayne was my favourite a few weeks ago but im starting to go off him now. I didnt like his attitude on saturday and i thought his performance was really bad.
He did a fantastic job of Daniel Bedinfield but i do think he now seems to think he has the competition in the bag so why bother trying!
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Old 31-10-2005, 20:10
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I have to say i totally disagree with a lot of the comments made. Chico has consistently shown himself to be arrogant, cocky and lippy and yet nothing is mentioned about him. At least Shayne can sing - not just a pretty face and I for one think he did a very good job with a song that wasn't really his style. I also find it a bit unfair that all the soul singers seem to have been placed in there comfort zone ie. classic soul numbers. Lets hear them sing a rock song and then we will see if they are as versatile as Shayne. Sorry to rock the boat guys this is just my opinion.
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