The prize for winning the X Factor is a record contract.

The Conway's debut album is out now at all good record shops.

So what the hell are they doing in the competition?

They've got the deal, they even have a top producer.

What do they want?....Two record deals?
Now that's just being greedy.

No matter how you look at it that can't be fair by any stretch of the imagination.
If the competition is about winning a prize which the other contestants have dreamed about all their life, how can it be fair for an act who already have a recording deal and a top producer who's worked with the very top acts to just snatch the prize from them?

I don't even understand how you can have two record deals.
How does that work?

If they win, it's like just depriving another act of the prize because although they don't need the prize, they don't want anyone else to have it.
Obviously it's not quite like that, but it's something that isn't that far from the truth.

If they can't actually have two record deals, then the only other reason I can see them being there is a deal where somebody has paid somebody else to give them free exposure....which kind of f**ks up any resemblance to a fair competition, and as a competition where everyone is supposed to be on equal footing it makes it a complete farce.

4Tune could be there instead of this group who only appear to be there to be promoted, and possibly aren't even eligible to win.

I've noticed a lot of talk over the last two weeks about certain acts deserving or not deserving to be in the competition.
I don't care how crap any of the other acts are, I believe that all of them deserve a place there over The Conway Sisters.

There's some acts that I think are quite poor, but they don't deserve to have their dreams snatched away from them by an act who already have an album out.

The prize on The X Factor is a record deal.
The Conway Sisters already have a record deal.
It is the life's dream of the other acts to get a record deal.

It makes a mockery of the competition.
How can an act win a record deal if they already have a record deal?

I don't care how rubbish any of the other acts are, I believe that The Conway Sisters don't deserve to be there at all.

What a crazy world we live in.

Ah, you're worrying over nothing - they don't have a hope in hell of winning!

How on earth did they get two record deals let alone one ? They are rubbish imo. The worst there this year.

Maybe they just weren't selling no matter what and needed the promotion of TV

i dont like them at all. I agree with what you said AM but they have no chance at winning anyway. They are soo bland.

I can't understand how they've got a record deal either, they're awful.

I do agree that it isn't really fair of them being in the competition though if they do already have a deal and a debut album out.

Good job they stand no chance of winning.

Well I'm not worrying. I don't vote.

Some people who are unaware of The Conway Sister's album deal WILL vote.

And people who supported 'Addictive Ladies', '4Tune', and 'Philip' voted too.

If they cannot win, because they would then have two record deals, then what business has this programme got by putting voting numbers up for an act that can't even win?

How can they have two record deals?
What would happen if they won?

Seeing as their current record deal is as far as I know confined to the RoI (Amazon.co.uk returns no results for 'conway sisters' and they cover pretty much everything) I doubt there'd be a problem - they'd just be with a different record company in the mainland UK.

Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone

But Philip and other acts had fans who voted for them.

If The Conway Sisters weren't there taking up a place that is undeserved, and if they can't possibly win due to the 2 record deal problem, then one of those acts would still be there with a fighting chance.

So it's like the programme is taking money off voters who are either voting for an act who may only be there for purposes of promotion and who may not be even eligible to win, or it's taking money off voters whose acts were kicked out despite an act still being there who is taking up one of those valuable places.

hmm yes you do have a point.
Did the same thing not happen with Andy scott lee in pop idol?
Its a shame really and i for one am not going to vote for them but i have feeling they do have a lot of Irish support which may keep them in a few more weeks

Interesting. You could be right, I don't know.

But wouldn't the rival record companies have a conflict of interest there?

I don't know if this is a legal loophole here, but it all looks a bit wrong morally.

The prize for being in the contest is to win a recording contract, and an act already has one, I think it's pretty out of order for an act to be even allowed to compete.

Some of the acts on there have probably had a life's dream of getting a record contract.

If I was Philip who's just been kicked out, I'd be well pissed off.

It certainly undermines the concept of the show, where all the contestants are supposed to be there fighting to win the prize of their dreams.
I know that sounds really sentimental, but you know what I mean.

I read somewhere else on here that the Conways don't actually have a record deal and funded their album release themselves.

Anybody can do that - doesn't make you ineligible to enter a competition.

This is a high profile show - if any of the acts already had a bona fide deal the producers would not have allowed them to get this far as it would make a mockery of the "competition".

I could be wrong though ... but who cares? The girls will not win as they do not have the fan base of some of the other acts.

Don't think Andy had a record deal though...now there was one really, really nice guy! A trait sadly missing in this comp, alas.

I agree with the OP - the Cons should be out! They already have success....what was Simon thinking of?

I kinda think this comp should be a bit like the Olympics - non-pro status (by that I mean no current record deal).

Their producer has produced for Kylie Minogue, Natalie Imbruglia, and other very popular acts.
So I doubt that they have just scraped up the money to do it all freelance.

Who cares?

Well if you're a voter and you're happy to fritter your money away when your vote has no effect on events, then feel free.

I think you know what I'm getting at.

Would these voters be voting for them if they all knew that their act who they are supporting already has an album out produced by one of the top producers in the country?
(Just thinking about that for a second, maybe a lot of people actually still would )

A lot of people vote for acts because they have a romanticised vision of the competition, and think that they are helping somebody fulfil their life's dream.
When in reality they probably aren't in some cases.

Hey, let 'U2' and 'Dido' take part next year.

I don't vote, I watch the show purely for entertainment. Shayne has been offered a record deal by Louis, should we kick him out too?

Strikes me that if you think hard enough you can think of a reason for any act you dislike to be booted out of the competition.

They should have an equivalent of the Olympic steroid testers there next year

We're led to believe that this is a competition for the average person.
Once acts start competing who already have record deals, it starts a very bad precedent.

The Conway Sisters will be out in a couple of weeks, when they have served their purpose - to promote WestSh*te.....they have toured with WL, they sang at Shane's wedding, the week before WL release their single, the Conways sing it on the live shows, and they even stole the WL 'dance' routine when they did it, ie sit down on stools, then at the song climax, stand up, clench fists, punch the air etc.

I thought it was WL up there in 4 wigs......

ROFL!!! Sooooo right!

Half of this lot would be signed up for rehab, hanging successful heads in shame.

What Louis has offered Shayne is a completely different thread.
Maybe we should kick him out, maybe we shouldn't. I haven't offered an opinion on that.
Shayne has been offered a record contract since appearing on the show?
I don't know.

All I know is that The Conway Sisters already had a record deal, and are working with one of the country's top producers.

I think your last comment is very desperate.
I'm not looking for an excuse to find an argument to get an act kicked out.
Do you seriously think I give a shit about the f**king Conway Sisters? Like I really hate them or something?
That's a very embarrassing thing to be accused of.

I am purely posting based on what I feel is fair and what isn't.
I already said that I think that ALL the other acts are more deserving of their place there due to this album deal thing.
This isn't because I'm seriously anti-Conway Sisters, and I shout and throw things at my TV when I see them..LOL.

If you think I only posted because I'm whipped up by the drama of the X Factor and need to resort to desperate measures to nobble an act, then you are very mistaken.

I don't vote, I don't particularly care who wins.
I genuinely posted because something doesn't look very fair to me, and I wanted to see what other people thought, whether they feel the same or not.

All I've heard is that Louis wants to sign Shayne, that doesn't mean a record contract, Louis is a manager not an owner of a record label.

Saying that Louis does seem to do well for his artists.

I've no problem with any of them the 'real contest' starts at the end of the show and whether the public will put their money where their mouths are.

Exactly. Louis has offered Shayne a management deal after the series is over if he doesnt win. This is not the same as a record deal as Louis doesnt have his own record company. Its just like 19 management who have a number of acts on their books but they are still looking for record deals. I expect it was the same thing with G4. The Conway Sisters are a different story altogether. They have already had a few chart hits in Ireland.

I was under the impression that they produced the album themselves. Anyway, I don't think they're all that and they should go really. The Brothers or that chav-band would have been a better choice for the live rounds as who wants to vote for an average cruise act anyway?

From memory they are not allowed to compete if they have a current record deal, from the posts above and links I take it they have never actually had one and have privately produced their cd.
So as far as I can see they are entitled to enter the contest.

they are waaay tooo shouty! Especially that maria girl that louis is always praising. She seems like a right madam