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Old 01-11-2005, 17:51
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A talent show that is open to the whole country.
12 final acts to show off the UK's talents.

Surely it must have been hard to pick the final 12 because there are millions of people in Britain who must be able to sing...

and yet we are left with the likes of Chico,Addictiv Ladies,Chenai and Phillip to represent our country.

Quite shocking they made it this far.


Is this the only talent we have?

Surely there are others...somewhere.....anywhere!
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Old 01-11-2005, 17:53
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Leave Chenai out of that list
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Old 01-11-2005, 17:54
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Well it isn't.

The show just makes out that it is.
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Old 01-11-2005, 17:55
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I agree, out of all those people that auditioned, they were only able to unearth one morsel of undiscovered talent. You know who I mean DONTCHA?

Chico (((MEGA-CHICO-TIME)))

Oh well, it's never easy when you're diving for pearls.
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Old 01-11-2005, 17:55
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I am sure that more talented people went to the auditions, but as finalists are pre-selected and only a handful of hopefuls get to actually audition for the celebrity judges then people who were more talented were probably sent away...sad but true....
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Old 01-11-2005, 17:55
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Yeah but what about the others - Brenda, Any, Maria, Shane etc . Also Chenai is not that bad , Chico is an entertainer and the show would be dull without him.
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Old 01-11-2005, 18:05
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I agree with the OP. 75000 auditions and these were the best they could come up with? I don't want to offend anyone here who is rooting for one or another act but as far as I can see NONE of these acts is more than moderately above average and many of them are decidedly below average.
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Old 01-11-2005, 18:13
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75,000 people applied with about half of that being selected for audition. This number was then whittled down to around 500 by the show's producers who were only looking for some good TV elements to place around the acts already ear-marked for the series. If this was an HONEST talent search, then we would have seen some real quality performers instead of what we have now. However, anyone that was remotely decent were binned at the first opportunity by the producers. The X Factor is only there to showcase artists that the record companies want to develop/promote with the bill for all of this being picked up by the telephone voting public.
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Old 01-11-2005, 18:14
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you just have to go to music academys and you will see a lot more talented people, a lot have the charm and charisma that is needed for Xfactor

i know people who tried at the auditions and were rejected not by simon and co they never got to see them they only saw some kind of gofers and now i think i know why

they did not have a story/novelty to make for veiwing

they were just talented people who wanted a break but the powers that be only wanted acts with a story or acts that would embarass themselves

these acts we have got now are not the cream of UK talent
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Old 01-11-2005, 18:14
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I actually think many of the final 12 are rather talented. Andy, Journey South, Chenai, Maria and Brenda all have excellent voices, Shayne and Phillip are good at what they do, Chico provides some light relief, and whilst there are some duds (Addictiv Ladies, Nicholas, Conways) I do think the remainder are rather strong overall. Not necessarily the cream of the UK's talent (w/ exception of Andy, JS and Chenai), but not half bad.
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Old 01-11-2005, 18:19
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Originally Posted by Wezzo
I actually think many of the final 12 are rather talented. Andy, Journey South, Chenai, Maria and Brenda all have excellent voices, Shayne and Phillip are good at what they do, Chico provides some light relief, and whilst there are some duds (Addictiv Ladies, Nicholas, Conways) I do think the remainder are rather strong overall. Not necessarily the cream of the UK's talent (w/ exception of Andy, JS and Chenai), but not half bad.
You know, for a 14 year old, you talk a lot of sense
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Old 01-11-2005, 18:22
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You know, for a 14 year old, you talk a lot of sense
I'll go out on a limb and take that as a compliment.
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Old 01-11-2005, 18:23
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I'll go out on a limb and take that as a compliment.
Yes, it certainly was a compliment. Anybody who is a JS fan is alright with me
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Old 01-11-2005, 18:25
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Yes, it certainly was a compliment. Anybody who is a JS fan is alright with me
And that's fine with me!
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Old 01-11-2005, 22:20
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Originally Posted by dave_fade
75,000 people applied with about half of that being selected for audition. This number was then whittled down to around 500 by the show's producers who were only looking for some good TV elements to place around the acts already ear-marked for the series. If this was an HONEST talent search, then we would have seen some real quality performers instead of what we have now. However, anyone that was remotely decent were binned at the first opportunity by the producers. The X Factor is only there to showcase artists that the record companies want to develop/promote with the bill for all of this being picked up by the telephone voting public.
Dave, I know you are a bit sore about not getting through, but you didn't have what they were looking for and should learn to let go. It's going too far to say that anyone remotely decent was binned at the first opportunity. There are still some talented singers in the competition even if I don't think much will come out of it in terms of careers.

Xfactor doesn't cover proper bands and is a very narrow representation of the musical diversity in this country. But it never pretended to be otherwise really - aside from a bit of hyperbole around the numbers auditioning, and about the opportunities on offer, it is saturday tea time telly at best.

The world is full of talented people who didn't have the extra x factor to make it big, and of less talented people who do seem to have something - why were the spice girls so massive for instance? None of them individually are that talented it seems - but put them together and they made a great pop act.

That's the real let down of this competition, that there really isn't much "X factor" involved at all. I've listened to your stuff Dave, and I agree you can sing, but I didn't hear any X factor there either. Sorry, not trying to be rude or anything, that's simply my opinion.
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Old 01-11-2005, 22:29
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Most of them are just glorified Music/Drama students.

A* - Maria
A* - Brenda
A* - Shane
A - Andy
B - Journey South
D - Chenai
E - Chico
F - Philip
F - 4Tune
F - Addictiv Ladies

Last year, it was A* stuff:

A* - Steve
A* - G4
A* - Tabby
A* - Rowetta
A* - Cassie
A - Roberta
B - Voices With Soul
C - 2 To Go
C - Verity
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Old 01-11-2005, 22:31
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I would imagine that a lot of talented musicians avoid the circus that is The X Factor like the plague.
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Old 01-11-2005, 22:37
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Originally Posted by Pencil
Most of them are just glorified Music/Drama students.

A* - Maria
A* - Brenda
A* - Shane
A - Andy
B - Journey South
D - Chenai
E - Chico
F - Philip
F - 4Tune
F - Addictiv Ladies
Are The Conway Sisters not eligible?
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Old 01-11-2005, 22:40
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Originally Posted by •ÅÅ Beatrix
I would imagine that a lot of talented musicians avoid the circus that is The X Factor like the plague.
The chances of success are greater if you don't enter The X Factor but attempt to break through via the traditional route.

The numbers speak for themselves when you consider how many star acts come from TV talent shows, and how many acts become famous without their help.
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Old 01-11-2005, 22:47
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Originally Posted by Alrightmate
Are The Conway Sisters not eligible?

In short 'No'!

Actually instead of going to either drama or music college, I'd swear that the Conway Sisters had enrolled in medical school and had trained as anaesthetists...
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Old 01-11-2005, 23:12
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Originally Posted by rimsky
Dave, I know you are a bit sore about not getting through, but you didn't have what they were looking for and should learn to let go. It's going too far to say that anyone remotely decent was binned at the first opportunity. There are still some talented singers in the competition even if I don't think much will come out of it in terms of careers.

Xfactor doesn't cover proper bands and is a very narrow representation of the musical diversity in this country. But it never pretended to be otherwise really - aside from a bit of hyperbole around the numbers auditioning, and about the opportunities on offer, it is saturday tea time telly at best.

The world is full of talented people who didn't have the extra x factor to make it big, and of less talented people who do seem to have something - why were the spice girls so massive for instance? None of them individually are that talented it seems - but put them together and they made a great pop act.

That's the real let down of this competition, that there really isn't much "X factor" involved at all. I've listened to your stuff Dave, and I agree you can sing, but I didn't hear any X factor there either. Sorry, not trying to be rude or anything, that's simply my opinion.
I'm not sore in the slightest as I knew the score regarding the X Factor before I auditioned. I only went along with it to (a) see if the stories I heard were true, and (b) 'cos I thought it might give me a suitable angle for a press release for when the series was eventually aired. As it happens, I don't need it now. Also, if I appear to be angry over the whole audition process, it's only because I feel sorry for those less fortunate than myself who were conned into thinking that the X Factor was a genuine opportunity for them. Incidentally, you weren't there, I was, and I saw some fantastic singers get the boot in favour of the good TV element which is all that the producers were looking for.

As for the finalists, when you consider all their connections to the persons/companies involved (not to mention, several past contestants), the chances of them being picked at random from the 75,000 who applied are pretty slim indeed. Of course they were pre-selected. No one in this industry likes to take risks anymore as there's too much at stake (not to mention, their jobs if they get it wrong).

Finally, as for your last part, that is your opinion and luckily for me, it is one that is not shared by those who have seen me perform and some big names who are getting ready to launch me to the public very soon.

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Old 01-11-2005, 23:27
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In short 'No'!

Actually instead of going to either drama or music college, I'd swear that the Conway Sisters had enrolled in medical school and had trained as anaesthetists...
I am so glad I put my lager down I would have spat it out I laughed at that so much.. and very true.

Talent contests.

Well lets go back a while Opportunity Knocks.. gave us Lulu.. still around and looking good HOW many years later... Pop Idol one gave us the great Mr Young.. since then NOTHING not a thing... Fame Acadamy gave us Lemar... WHO came third, but it gave him a platform on which to reach highter things but it took work, as I am sure it will for you Dave.

It is a Saturday night light entertainment show... if you line their pockets and your fav wins and then is dropped WHO do you have to blame YOU for lining their pockets as you are SURE as hell not lining the pockets of the artists.

For me I have one clear fav have had from the start. ... JS.. and they can write their own stuff. SO DO not let them win as SC hates people who write.. he does not make as much dosh... cynical yes I am.. but been here too long not to be and I do not mean on this site either.

And please WILL was not anything to do with Simon Cowell or he may have been a failure as well, but he made it clear from day one he would not work with SC no wonder as SC sighed Gareth the same night.. Gareth WHO... Michelle Who... Ruben WHO.... Fantasia WHO.. and then of course STEVE who...

Only lot to do a thing from last year had one mentor who cared... LW and G4 are about to release album number two.. AND no I am not a mega fan I like them but happen to prefer Il Divo to be honest... but LW seems to have a way with him... so my thoughts are is there any talent.. ONLY if you really work at the acts you have... one of the best voices went home this week leaving me with CHICO and the Conway Sisters... YUK.

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Old 01-11-2005, 23:38
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The BBC should bring back Opportunity Knocks as that was an honest talent search. I can still remember now its Producer Stewart Morris sitting in his armchair at the auditions shouting at me to get my hands out of my pockets and start performing all those years ago! I was an inexperienced 22 year old and he terrified the life out of me!
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Old 01-11-2005, 23:42
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Originally Posted by kyri
A talent show that is open to the whole country.
12 final acts to show off the UK's talents.

Surely it must have been hard to pick the final 12 because there are millions of people in Britain who must be able to sing...

and yet we are left with the likes of Chico,Addictiv Ladies,Chenai and Phillip to represent our country.

Quite shocking they made it this far.


Is this the only talent we have?

Surely there are others...somewhere.....anywhere!
If you remember we only have Brenda because her hubby had taken her away for a dirty weekend and she just happened to be in the same hotel as the auditions. Other talented people miss out too for whatever reason. Maybe they don't feel the need to go on a programme like X Factor to showcase themselves. Especially if the standard is poor.
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Old 01-11-2005, 23:55
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Oh but that is if YOU believe that story.. you have to apply for X factor NOT just be at some hotel.. PLANTED springs to mind Andy admitted last week he had been her backing singer... told you I am a cynical person.. sorry I think that story in the right place... MMMM NO I think not... they have scouts out looking just as football teams do.. sad but true.

GG

Oh and you were on OK then well done you. I am sure he made you shake in your boots..but hey there were honest shows...

Now we have the bannana man the chicken man I did not watch the shows prior to two weeks before live as I could NOT stand it anymore... pure junk.. who will it be this year that we have to see sing on the final night... OH PLEASE....
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