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Still no mention of Carl's (JS) baby?
Its a bit weird that there has been no mention of Carls daughter on xtra factor, when the other brother is showing pics of his kid all the time. He should be ashamed of himself, deadbeat dad.
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Does he have a daughter?
![]() To be fair, if he does, he (or her mother) might just want to keep her out of the media. |
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They're saving the baby footage for the 'Aaah Factor' sympathy vote segment if at any time JS look to be in danger of going out.
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why bring the children into any of it I ask myself.
Remember the vomit inducing clips shown behind Tabby (was that his name? looks really silly written down!!) of his baby daughter. I like children and babies as much as the next person but there is a time and a place! and touting for votes on the x-factor ain't one of 'em! maybe Carl (which one is that?!) has got just a tad more professionalism than those who hawk their children at every opportunity! |
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I personally don't like it when they get their children out at every given oppertunity it's not fair on the children who seem to have no choice in the matter.
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Agree with the above, I don't think they should fetch the kids into it. There was a piece in the news of the world about Karl's ex girlfriend and she was saying he has never seen their daughter and that he dumped her when she told him she was pregnant. She also said he was only paying £5 a week child support. I know you shouldn't believe everything you read in the newspapers but I can't see them being on the show anytime soon
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Originally Posted by Deelight2004
Agree with the above, I don't think they should fetch the kids into it. There was a piece in the news of the world about Karl's ex girlfriend and she was saying he has never seen their daughter and that he dumped her when she told him she was pregnant. She also said he was only paying £5 a week child support. I know you shouldn't believe everything you read in the newspapers but I can't see them being on the show anytime soon
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Originally Posted by Deelight2004
Agree with the above, I don't think they should fetch the kids into it. There was a piece in the news of the world about Karl's ex girlfriend and she was saying he has never seen their daughter and that he dumped her when she told him she was pregnant. She also said he was only paying £5 a week child support. I know you shouldn't believe everything you read in the newspapers but I can't see them being on the show anytime soon
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The News of the World? Oh well it MUST be true then.
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Originally Posted by ArtyAttack
Actually, the woman in question had gone to the NOTW with her story.
Most people concerned about their erstwhile partner's lack of contribution to child support would contact the CSA or a solicitor but why do that when you can always hope he/she might get to be a celebrity so you can make a bit of money off their backs that way AND trash them in public to boot?
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Originally Posted by XFG
Most people concerned about their erstwhile partner's lack of contribution to child support would contact the CSA or a solicitor but why do that when you can always hope he/she might get to be a celebrity so you can make a bit of money off their backs that way AND trash them in public to boot?
![]() If you interestred in seeing the article, I scanned it onto my site, you have to register first though http://xfactorrematch.*********43.co...ead=1129461457 |
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Originally Posted by Deelight2004
According to the NOTW that is actually through the CSA
If you interestred in seeing the article, I scanned it onto my site, you have to register first though http://xfactorrematch.*********43.co...ead=1129461457 I'm not that much interested in the article to be honest. As a former copywriter for a red banner rag (oh the shame but it was a living after I left college and actually quite fun) I still have the 'templates' for articles like that. Category: abandoned or unsupported child/dumped or pregnant ex-girlfriend/starving or sick mother of Celebrity X. Delete/insert names/places/dates as applicable.
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Originally Posted by Deelight2004
According to the NOTW that is actually through the CSA
If you interestred in seeing the article, I scanned it onto my site, you have to register first though http://xfactorrematch.*********43.co...ead=1129461457
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Originally Posted by yorkiegal
if the csa have decided he can only afford £5 , then he can only afford £5. He's hardly the first absent father in the world and if his ex had any sense she'd be keeping quiet in the hope that he wins the comp. Plenty of time to stick the boot in once he's earning more.
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Originally Posted by Icabod Crane
Its a bit weird that there has been no mention of Carls daughter on xtra factor, when the other brother is showing pics of his kid all the time. He should be ashamed of himself, deadbeat dad.
As we only have the girl in questions word for what happened in a tabloid paper...I think I will wait to hear both sides of the story before I decide what has happened. Also, it has nothing to do with their singing anyway which is surely what the show is about.
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Originally Posted by yorkiegal
if the csa have decided he can only afford £5 , then he can only afford £5. He's hardly the first absent father in the world and if his ex had any sense she'd be keeping quiet in the hope that he wins the comp. Plenty of time to stick the boot in once he's earning more.
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I am glad we have all hung drawn and quartered him on the strength of an EX girlfriend going to the 'News of the World'.
![]() I must believe everything they write in future as it is all completely true then! Obviously!
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Ah, News Of The World, the height of reliable journalism!
![]() As ever, a bunch of overblown tabloid tripe. Interesting yes, biased and inaccurate also yes. |
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yes boho the show should be about singing but its not! All the contestants personal life/ personality comes into it, which i wish it would not.
Why else does Chico get called a sleaze and Chenai a cry baby? News like this about JS wont do them any favours either. |
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Originally Posted by Bohochick
I am glad we have all hung drawn and quartered him on the strength of an EX girlfriend going to the 'News of the World'.
![]() I must believe everything they write in future as it is all completely true then! Obviously! ![]() I agree with you, we don't know anything of this story only what NOTW ( Sunday equivalent of the Sun ) has printed. There have been so many stories printed in that paper ending up with only a smidgeon of truth hidden somewhere amongst all the rubbish. It happens all the time with reality show people, these stories, that I am forever surprised that some are still so ready to believe so much of what they read. Still each to their own * Goe's to get massive bag of salt* Susan x |
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js "NO GIMMICKS OR SOB STORIES"
Its a sob story or a flash of a baby every week with thoes guys. |
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This article was in the NOTW about three weeks ago and there has been no further stories so the NOTW have lost interest already though I am shocked that the Daily Star havent got it as an Exclusive as it usually takes them a week or so to catch up with everyone else. As others have stated, there are two sides to every story.
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First of all, it depends how much of this story is true - but you cannot condemn a man before you have heard his version of events. The critcisim that he has not seen his daughter may well be valid, but on the other hand, the mother could have prevented him from seeing her - in which case, the sympathy should lie with him.
Just as an aside - a friend's husband was being bad mouthed all round our town for being a 'deadbeat' dad to a little girl he'd fathered when he was in his teens on a one night stand. The truth was, he'd stood by the girl for the first few months of the baby's life, but it wasn't working between them. He then had the baby every weekend and holidays up until the age of 2. The mother by this time had a new boyfriend and wanted him to be seen as the child's dad - so did her absolute best to cut the real father out of the picture. Made it awkward for him to see her, demanded that she didn't call him daddy, said goodness knows what to the child - who suddenly started protesting that she didn't want to spend time with him. It broke his heart when the mother decided that she didn't want him seeing her anymore. He took it to court and got parental rights and visitations - but the mother made it so difficult for him. Would often take the child away when it was his turn to have her - refuse to let her go, and obviously started telling the little girl a few stories because the child used to cry when he did come to collect her. In the end, it just broke him up and he couldn't bear to see his daughter pulled in two directions, so made the decision not to see her anymore - and just hopes and prays that she'll come looking for him when she's older and he can put his side of the story. Nothing is ever black or white. |
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Still no mention of Carls daughter eh? There are 2 sides to every story so why doesn't he defend his honour if all of this is false? Personally, they can't win....it'll be funny as if they lose but even if they do win, the CSA are gonna have a ball with him!
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Why should be mention his daughter? Its none of our business whether he does or not.
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