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Alex, Kate, Jonny, PJ, and Tactical Voting
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observer
07-07-2002
I absolutely dislike PJ.

I really like Kate .

But I want Alex to WIN

Knowing that Kate is a real competition to Alex, I decided to vote tactically and thus will vote KATE OUT this time, because this is the best opportunity to do it, not during the final week.

I would guess that Jonny's supporters are thinking the same and will be voting to evict Kate tis time.
mromega
07-07-2002
Don't be so daft. If you really like Kate then you should hope she would get close to winning. Keep her in the house. And your tactics are slightly screwed as well. Kate and Jonny have a similar fan base thus leading to a split vote and possibly Alex winning.
observer
07-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by mromega
Kate and Jonny have a similar fan base thus leading to a split vote and possibly Alex winning. ”

And that's why I don't want Alex/Jonny/Kate in the final, because I am pretty sure that Jonny will go first (3rd place) which will leave a few hours of voting before the end, and this will make all the jonny-supporters to merge with Kate's supporters and phone/vote for Kate to win.
Avenger
07-07-2002
I am not one for tactical voting. I do have a dislike to PJ and so will vote PJ out. I marginally like Kate over the others and like the thread starter would like Alex to win but I would like to see Alex and Kate go head to head. (May the best person win)
mromega
07-07-2002
If Kate is evicted this week though, who is she going to want to win, Jonny. Therefore a large percentage of Kate voters will switch to Jonny.
Miss Tress
07-07-2002
Am I the only one who thinks Jonny is selfish and full of himself?
He continually distracts attention from others when he thinks they have a piece of the lime light. He was frantic tonight about being nominated and was very lame in using the excuse of his family's journey - how many times have we heard the before?
He couldn't care less that PJ and Kate were watching a video - he shouted all over it, so much so that PJ never heard what his mum said.
Then!! the man had the nerve to distract from their upset and tears to whine to others about his visit with the psychologist. Can you all see through him?
Vote whoever you want to win but PLEASE see through Jonny. He is kidding us all. This is the same man who voted out Spencer then tried to pretend he was sorry. The same man who complains about being nominated but nominates other. He is selfish and needs to go
observer
07-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by mromega
If Kate is evicted this week though, who is she going to want to win, Jonny. Therefore a large percentage of Kate voters will switch to Jonny. ”

But if Kate goes this week, there will be about 2 weeks (til the final) to make Kate's base fan switch from supporting Jonny to supporting Alex, as Jonny's popularity diminishes.

Leaving it til the last hours of the final day wont assure this.
Sherlock Holmes
07-07-2002
I'm an avid Kate fan and if she were to go this week (which is very unprobable) then I would vote Jonny. This would be bad for Alex fans cos all the Kate fans I know also like Jonny and would get behind him to win. Just get rid of PJ.
Elysium
07-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Miss Tress
Am I the only one who thinks Jonny is selfish and full of himself?
He continually distracts attention from others when he thinks they have a piece of the lime light. He was frantic tonight about being nominated and was very lame in using the excuse of his family's journey - how many times have we heard the before?
He couldn't care less that PJ and Kate were watching a video - he shouted all over it, so much so that PJ never heard what his mum said.
Then!! the man had the nerve to distract from their upset and tears to whine to others about his visit with the psychologist. Can you all see through him?
Vote whoever you want to win but PLEASE see through Jonny. He is kidding us all. This is the same man who voted out Spencer then tried to pretend he was sorry. The same man who complains about being nominated but nominates other. He is selfish and needs to go
”

Jonny is one of life’s little users .. He’s the say or do absolutely *anything* type to try and get what he wants... the archetypal failure in life who now sees his dream of being a famous actor slide away and along with it his aspirations to be “liked-and-loved” .. He forgets the one simple rule that in order to secure such fame on a show like this you have to be truly ‘genuine’ .. it can only be faked for a short time before people begin to see through your act [and Jonny has acted as well as he possibly could].

Jonny’s time has sadly come .. he has had his ‘five minutes of fame’ .. its time the public give him the cold shoulder and tell him to get back to his “mam and dad..” and build a life with his wife to be .. settle down and regale the fun he had in BB 3.. “do you remember me, .. I used to be in Big Brother..” (cap in hand) .. I’d suggest busking ..

“You can fool some of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the
people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.. “


Jonny is soon to learn this one golden rule .. those who fake sincerity soon are found out.
Ashamanic
07-07-2002
Rubbish. When Jonny thought they were getting his video by mistake, he clearly told the producers that. Hardly selfish actions.
observer
07-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
I'm an avid Kate fan and if she were to go this week (which is very unprobable) then I would vote Jonny. This would be bad for Alex fans cos all the Kate fans I know also like Jonny and would get behind him to win. Just get rid of PJ. ”

Yeah, but would you still be supporting Jonny in 3 weeks time His popularity is going down. Maybe you wont change your mind, but I know a lot of Kate's supporters who would swicth their votes from Jonny to Alex during a 2 weeks period. Watch this space
gazza71
07-07-2002
Kate goes, and we're left with Alex and Jonny for entertainment. Tim is god awful, PJ has been boring for 6 weeks and Jade is the most hideous woman of all time.

The nice thing about Kate is she can have a laugh now with both Alex and Jonny. I care more about having an entertaining show than who wins... Jonny and Alex will never be best of mates and have a laugh together, Kate and Alex will.

Kate goes, and the show becomes even more pathetic.
observer
07-07-2002
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“Originally posted by gazza71
Kate goes, and the show becomes even more pathetic. ”

That's what have been said during Spencer eviction.Spencer gone and the show went on

Don't feel threatned, those who want to vote tactically would have got the message by now
Mart - Ma Rule
07-07-2002
Yes, I agree Gazza71

Kate, Jonny (and Alex I suppose) are the only three that entertains us....! So Vote PJ out. *****154404!!!!!

A_different_Bob
07-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Elysium


Jonny is one of life’s little users .. He’s the say or do absolutely *anything* type to try and get what he wants... the archetypal failure in life who now sees his dream of being a famous actor slide away and along with it his aspirations to be “liked-and-loved” .. He forgets the one simple rule that in order to secure such fame on a show like this you have to be truly ‘genuine’ .. it can only be faked for a short time before people begin to see through your act [and Jonny has acted as well as he possibly could].

Jonny’s time has sadly come .. he has had his ‘five minutes of fame’ .. its time the public give him the cold shoulder and tell him to get back to his “mam and dad..” and build a life with his wife to be .. settle down and regale the fun he had in BB 3.. “do you remember me, .. I used to be in Big Brother..” (cap in hand) .. I’d suggest busking ..

“You can fool some of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the
people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.. “


Jonny is soon to learn this one golden rule .. those who fake sincerity soon are found out.
”

The time and energy you spend slaggin off Jonny suggests that you're the loser not him. 'Archetypal failure in life' ??? Well to me he appears to be a guy with a happy family life, nice fiancee, and an admirable career. Not my idea of a failure!
Perhaps you need to take a look at yourself.
Elysium
07-07-2002
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“Originally posted by A_different_Bob
Not my idea of a failure!. ”

I did say that "you can fool some of the people all of the time" .. of which you quite clearly fit into that group.
Richey
07-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Elysium


Jonny is one of life’s little users .. He’s the say or do absolutely *anything* type to try and get what he wants... the archetypal failure in life who now sees his dream of being a famous actor slide away and along with it his aspirations to be “liked-and-loved” .. He forgets the one simple rule that in order to secure such fame on a show like this you have to be truly ‘genuine’ .. it can only be faked for a short time before people begin to see through your act [and Jonny has acted as well as he possibly could].

”

Failure in life? Jonny, for all his faults, is a fireman, there to save lives and risk his if necessary. If you think that is a failure then I pity you.
A_different_Bob
07-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Elysium

I did say that "you can fool some of the people all of the time" .. of which you quite clearly fit into that group.
”

The words 'arrogant' and '****' come to mind.
Harshad
07-07-2002
OK, I am going to predict, and I haven't been wrong so far!

PJ Next to be evicted, then Jade, then Tim, then Kate, I can't see in my crystal ball, whose going to win!
Elysium
07-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Richey


Failure in life? Jonny, for all his faults, is a fireman, there to save lives and risk his if necessary. If you think that is a failure then I pity you.
”

Since when did being a ‘fireman’ somehow equate to being a perfect human being? I would presume that your of the C2DE demographic, therefore such a blinkered view would be expected.. and although Jonny may well be a ‘fireman’ this does not make him any less the pathetic ‘look at me’ actor that he has shown himself to be. I think you should harp back to Dr. Ronald Shipman and how he was a ‘caring doctor’ but still decided to murder a good deal of his patients..

If the house sets on fire and he manages to put it out in quick time I will gladly commend him.. but until then I will continue to judge this overbearing buffoon by his false sincerity and fake personality..
oldgit
07-07-2002
“You can fool some of the people some of the time (Sophie,Lee,Alison,Kate), you can fool some of the
people all of the time (Alex), but you can't fool all of the people all of the time (PJ, Jonny, together with 2,175,000 viewers).. “


Answers on a postcard
Straker
07-07-2002
Elysium’s argument falls down on one crucial point: Jonny is and has been for some weeks now, one of the favourites to win and by far the most popular HM with the crowds outside on eviction nights. Elysium is attempting a process of self actualization (and carrying on the bitch fuhrer, Adele’s work) by repeating his misguided rubbish so often that he and others believe it to be true and go on to ensure it becomes a reality. Sadly it doesn‘t work like that and apparently Jonny could even continue in the depressive mode he‘s been in for the last few weeks and still get the 70k.

I say all of the above as a fan more of Kate than Jonny just in case anyone thinks I’m biased.


Oh, and [SIZE=4]FFS Elysium stop pigeonholing people you don’t even know into certain demographic groups just to denigrate their perfectly valid point of view.[/SIZE]
Elysium
07-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Straker
I say all of the above as a fan more of Kate than Jonny just in case anyone thinks I’m biased.SIZE] ”

Its quite obvious by reading a good deal of the “Jonny [we love you] support” threads that in a similar way that Kate has difficulty understanding general conversation [ “what does manipulative mean..?”] so do their fans .. because they attract largely the lower end of the spectrum to begin with (no insult intended).. Some of the other housemates by their very nature likewise attract more intelligent and affluent viewers [it’s the way tv works..] and are able to see the ‘bigger picture’ .. So, I commend you for the way you continue to support Jonny.. but please, allow us with more sense to continue to support our choice too; .. we just happen to see through Jonny!
A_different_Bob
07-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Elysium


Since when did being a ‘fireman’ somehow equate to being a perfect human being? I would presume that your of the C2DE demographic, therefore such a blinkered view would be expected.. and although Jonny may well be a ‘fireman’ this does not make him any less the pathetic ‘look at me’ actor that he has shown himself to be. I think you should harp back to Dr. Ronald Shipman and how he was a ‘caring doctor’ but still decided to murder a good deal of his patients..

If the house sets on fire and he manages to put it out in quick time I will gladly commend him.. but until then I will continue to judge this overbearing buffoon by his false sincerity and fake personality..
”

Just to remind you Elysium, your words were 'archetypal failure in life', nobody described him as a perfect human being. I presume you're of the TW*T demographic judging by your ridiculous vendetta, and to use Ronald Shipman as a comparison proves youve lost the plot on this one.
fatherjack
07-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Elysium


Its quite obvious by reading a good deal of the “Jonny [we love you] support” threads that in a similar way that Kate has difficulty understanding general conversation [ “what does manipulative mean..?”] so do their fans .. because they attract largely the lower end of the spectrum to begin with (no insult intended).. Some of the other housemates by their very nature likewise attract more intelligent and affluent viewers [it’s the way tv works..] and are able to see the ‘bigger picture’ .. So, I commend you for the way you continue to support Jonny.. but please, allow us with more sense to continue to support our choice too; .. we just happen to see through Jonny!
”

( wormy little impostor )
Most people can see through jonny that doesnt mean they cant support him, I dont see that many pro jonny postings anyway, in fact quite the opposite. As for "more sense" you are just biased and arrogant ...without any justification!
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