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Kate or PJ - YOU decide!
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minnie
07-07-2002
PJ out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out
pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!
chloe hall
07-07-2002
PJ OUT!
DeeDee
07-07-2002
PJU out ,you are not a sex god and never will be ,if you were up with Tim you might of been saved ,good bye
snowfire
08-07-2002
I'm not a fan of PJ and I want Alex to win. OK having stated my aliegencies (sp?) I want to point out something that I think PJ said last night - He said that he was glad Alex was having a good time because his first two weeks in the house were crap. If it was him who said this and I think it was, it shows he reacted well to Alex's support of him and thus he is not the laddish lout some people are making him out to be. But please feel free to evict him as I cant stand the thought of Jade being the only girl in the house. I just wanted clarification that PJ had indeed sadi something like that and it wasnt just me falling asleep and dreaming it
fan-at-ic
08-07-2002
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“Originally posted by jazharvey
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did anyone else notice that kate and pj pulled their bits of paper out first-what are the odds on the first 2 getting the only 2 marked bits of paper? stitch up job by tim?
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Hey, good point! Tim put the paper bits in the hat...since he was holding it, he'd know he'd be last to select a bit, so make sure the marked ones are on top and he reduces his chances of getting one! I wonder...anyone have it to watch in slow-mo atcion reply to see if he's really a master magician?
fan-at-ic
08-07-2002
I'll state my (current) allegience first, I want Kate to win...but, PJ has recieved an awful lot of critisism on these forums for things said in jest, things he didn't even say, and things he's accused of having done outside of the house....the last of these I have no direct evidence of, so I have to pretty much discount as the source seems to be tabloids and I'd rather trust Nasty Nick than them...Mostly in the house he's played the game well I think, trying to stay out of anything controversial as best he can - leading to the critisism from Adele about sitting on the fence of course, but it's meant he's not really shown himself much beyond a very superficial level....Kate on the other hand has been funny, resourcful, caring, and just about the perfect housemate getting on with just about everyone despite them trying to hate her because of missunderstandings...she's won over Adele and even Alex now...only Tim is left in the house not liking her I think?

So, if only because I don't want Kate booted, I'm still going to vote despite wanting to make a point to BB and I'm voting to boot PJ...not because I think he's the devil incarnate as some critics here claim, but because he just doesn't measure up as a good enough housemate to win for me.
SpringHeeledJim
08-07-2002
Quote:
“what are the odds on the first 2 getting the only 2 marked bits of paper?”

14/1. Well, you did ask.

Waaay too much time on my hands...
Hammy
08-07-2002
fan-at-ic - "Hey, good point! Tim put the paper bits in the hat...since he was holding it, he'd know he'd be last to select a bit, so make sure the marked ones are on top and he reduces his chances of getting one! I wonder...anyone have it to watch in slow-mo atcion reply to see if he's really a master magician? "


It was Kate, who puts the bits of paper in the hat, Tim is only holding it. There is another thread about it, Tim Cheating or something like that.
fan-at-ic
08-07-2002
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“Originally posted by SpringHeeledJim
14/1. Well, you did ask.

Waaay too much time on my hands...
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..as long as the decks aren't rigged If the top two bits of paper have a mark, then the odds then depend on the psychology of how people pick bits of paper - usually dig to the bottom? As Tim put the bits in, if he was a master at figuring where everyone else would grab first, he could have set it up for Kate and PJ as the first two to get them...or am I being just a little paranoid?

...hang on are you sure of the 14/1? 21 possible perms of picking any particular 2 from 7 isn't it?...so isn't it 21/1 odds?

if the bits of paper are ABCDEFG

perms are:

AB, AC, AD, AE, AF, AG
BC, BD, BE, BF,BG
CD, CE, CF, CG
DE, DF, DG
EF, EG
FG

if the bits were on A and B, only 1 combination out of those 21 would fit?

Stats/odds are not my strong point, but 14/1? How?

Fan
(always willing to learn if I've got this wrong)
fan-at-ic
08-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Hammy
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It was Kate, who puts the bits of paper in the hat, Tim is only holding it. There is another thread about it, Tim Cheating or something like that.
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Ahh, so maybe he's a master hypnotist then? Should I move my paranoid fantasies to the thread about him cheating then?
SpringHeeledJim
08-07-2002
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“Originally posted by fan-at-ic
hang on are you sure of the 14/1? 21 possible perms of picking any particular 2 from 7 isn't it?...so isn't it 21/1 odds?”

Weren't there 6 bits of paper? But your maths are right if it was 7.
fan-at-ic
08-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by SpringHeeledJim
Weren't there 6 bits of paper? But your maths are right if it was 7. ”

D'OH!! *LOL*...So thats 15 combinations, 1 of which is the right one...so 1 in 15, 15:1...which I think in betting is done as 14/1 since you don't count the right one or something?

How red is my face now?

netiquette prevents me going back and changing my 1st post I assume...
MrNice
08-07-2002
SACK THE PRODUCERS

Id vote the PRODUCERS out
sasha
08-07-2002
I think they are both great, and its gonna be so hard to decide who should go, but I think kate should stay as jade would be the only female in the house, giving her exactly what she wants, and she will try and get as much attention as she can from it.
bigron
08-07-2002
Don't want either out

but if it has to be one of the two then PJ is getting my non vote (am not stuffing the producers pockets after the so called "task" fiasco).

Whichever of the two do go, at least hopefully they will get a nice reception this friday.
mromega
08-07-2002
And the results of the RI:SE Poll this morning put the vote as

PJ = 79%
Kate = 21%
temment
08-07-2002
PEEJOUT
ubermind
08-07-2002
I'm an Alex fan and I definately think PJ should be eveicted this week. Although my personal preference would be to evict that tosser Tim.
ubermind
08-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Hammy
fan-at-ic - "Hey, good point! Tim put the paper bits in the hat...since he was holding it, he'd know he'd be last to select a bit, so make sure the marked ones are on top and he reduces his chances of getting one! I wonder...anyone have it to watch in slow-mo atcion reply to see if he's really a master magician? "


It was Kate, who puts the bits of paper in the hat, Tim is only holding it. There is another thread about it, Tim Cheating or something like that.
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Tim's too stupid to fix anything except his hair.
BIGe4BROTHER
08-07-2002
Kate out because I want Jade to win
manleesam1
08-07-2002
There is only one choice this week. PJ out he brings nothing to this programe , I forget he is there most of the time.

Kate will be there on the final day and I would love her to win, B ut I think it will be Jonnie now, Alex will moan his way out of the door by next week.
GeeBoy
08-07-2002
Talking of odds, am I reading them right as on a website it show Kate as favourite to be evicted!

http://bookiesindex.bestbetting.com/?Market=430489

?
TonyH
08-07-2002
Err... no. 1/6 means you win £1 for every £6 you put on PJ. 9/2 means you win £9 for every £2 you put on Kate.

PJ is the favourite to be evicted.
mercerm
08-07-2002
I'd like the ex-girlfriend beating, offering-to-tell-racist-jokes PJ out please. This is a man who said on one of the late night bits that he plans getting some girls into a hotel room afterwards to "abuse 'em, right abuse 'em," so there's no way he deserves to win anything.

Kate is getting funnier by the day and more imaginative. She'll end up second behind Jonny. Sleazy disappointment Alex will be third, despite now trying to appear more of a 'character'.
Wooster
08-07-2002
PJ laughed at Tory Tim's racist 'joke' while Kate told him to 'shut up'. It's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned. Back to obscurity for PJ!
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