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DVB-T Service ID (SID), Transport Stream ID (TSID)
Dear members,
Can you help me finding out the Service ID (SID) and Transport Stream ID (TSID) of all channels (Freeview, Top Up TV) broadcast on DVB-T network in the UK. Is their a website updating regularly this info for each digital transmitter? Regards, JFC |
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I have seen this info about but I don't know where. Sorry.
Somebody here will know, so Im bumping your thread back to the top!
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I did several researches on internet, but did not found yet this info. Has a member already found the list of DVB-T service IDs?
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Originally Posted by jfcremer
I did several researches on internet, but did not found yet this info. Has a member already found the list of DVB-T service IDs?
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Originally Posted by jfcremer
Dear members,
Can you help me finding out the Service ID (SID) and Transport Stream ID (TSID) of all channels (Freeview, Top Up TV) broadcast on DVB-T network in the UK. Is their a website updating regularly this info for each digital transmitter? Regards, JFC -------------------------------------------- BBC ONE (BBC) Free VID 600 AUD 601 PCR 600 SUB 603 DVB Identifiers (9018, 4109, 4173) Channel 42 Signal Strength (%) ?? ######** Bit error rate ? Uncorrected errors/sec ? -------------------------------------------- If this IS what you are requesting (although I don't know if it varies by region/transmitter?) I can go through all the LCNs and post you a table: LCN ChannelName Owner Encryption VID AUD PCR SUB DVB1 DVB2 DVB3 001.BBC ONE..........(BBC)....Free..........600.601.600.603.9018.4109.4173 etc Norman |
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VID 600 AUD 601 PCR 600 SUB 603
PID - Video, Audio, Mheg, Sub-titlesQuote:
DVB Identifiers (9018, 4109, 4173)
NET ID, TSID, SIDFrom a previous thread I seem to remember. Actually won't TSID & SID vary by transmitter? Last edited by soulboy77 : 27-02-2006 at 15:43. |
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Have PM'd you
![]() Would you be kind enough to let me have a copy of the Service ID list? TIA Tom |
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Dear tghe-retford,
Would you be kind enough to let me have a copy of the Service ID list? TIA Tom The only thing I could find was this list from UK DTT Transmitter Information, but it dates back to 2006 (and probably hasn't been updated for a while): http://web.archive.org/web/200605250...mux/index.html Apologies. |
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What you all need to do is ditch those Microsoft products, and embrace Linux. You can then use the 'dvbsnoop' utility to give a complex breakdown of all the streams in a given multiplex.
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I was just waiting for a Lunux user to come on here and say summin like that!
If you get yourself a TV card (I personally use a winfast usb stick) and get yourself a copy of TSreader it will tell you all this! |
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Hi. Just wondered is there a list of TSIDs as well>
I managed to find all the SIDs but the TSIDs (ie the transport Stream IDs): Example: Winter Hill: 4168 (Mux 1- BBC), Mux 2 (D3&4) 8203 Moe-Y-Parc: 4222 (mux 1-BBC), Mux 2 (D3&4): 8205 Freeview ONID is always 9018 it would appear. However, it appears that the TSIDs are the same as BBC1 for the BBC mux, but different for the D3&4 mux) Does anyone know the TSIDs for the other transmitters? Thanks |
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Hi. Just wondered is there a list of TSIDs as well>
I managed to find all the SIDs but the TSIDs (ie the transport Stream IDs): Example: Winter Hill: 4168 (Mux 1- BBC), Mux 2 (D3&4) 8203 Moe-Y-Parc: 4222 (mux 1-BBC), Mux 2 (D3&4): 8205 Freeview ONID is always 9018 it would appear. However, it appears that the TSIDs are the same as BBC1 for the BBC mux, but different for the D3&4 mux) Does anyone know the TSIDs for the other transmitters? Thanks As far as D3&4 is concerned, you are correct, the SID for ITV isn't the same as the TSID. It is, however, relatively simple to work out. The ITV SID is offset +64 from the TSID. So for Winter Hill, the D3&4 TSID is 8203 and the SID for ITV Granada is 8267 (8203+64). Note that the SDN and BBC B multiplexes also use regional TSIDs. |
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It would be useful to have a full listing somewhere on the internet, it is incredibly difficult to get up to date information for individual regions.
As far as D3&4 is concerned, you are correct, the SID for ITV isn't the same as the TSID. It is, however, relatively simple to work out. The ITV SID is offset +64 from the TSID. So for Winter Hill, the D3&4 TSID is 8203 and the SID for ITV Granada is 8267 (8203+64). Note that the SDN and BBC B multiplexes also use regional TSIDs. |
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I am trying to put together a spreadsheet with all this on now I have a Linux DVB-T/T2 box.
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A good plan, it would be nice if you could make the information available to everyone. Perhaps a sticky thread in the Technical section. Thinking about it, you might get more contributions if you start a thread for this in the Technical section.
Thanks. |
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OK maybe - but can someone clarify - has ITV2 been changed to the SID of Crystal Palace everywhere? The SIDs used to be 64 above ITV but many of them are 8325 - the same as Crystal Palce now. I may have to ask in the Technical section.
Thanks. |
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It would be useful to have a full listing somewhere on the internet, it is incredibly difficult to get up to date information for individual regions.
As far as D3&4 is concerned, you are correct, the SID for ITV isn't the same as the TSID. It is, however, relatively simple to work out. The ITV SID is offset +64 from the TSID. So for Winter Hill, the D3&4 TSID is 8203 and the SID for ITV Granada is 8267 (8203+64). Note that the SDN and BBC B multiplexes also use regional TSIDs. |
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BBCB probably does have different TSIDs but SDN I think is now one TSID everywhere. Crystal Palace and Winter Hill appear to be the same for SDN.
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Comparing English transmitters for SDN isn't going to tell you much as the 4 regions used by SDN are Wales, England, Scotland & Northern Ireland.
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Isn't it just Wales and Not-Wales these days?
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There's no difference in the services carried other than E4 in Wales and True Entertainment / Xpanded TV outside Wales. I have no idea whether or not SDN dismantled the regional structure in Scotland and Northern Ireland to reflect this. Maybe forum members in Scotland and Northern Ireland will post their SDN TSIDs to confirm the current situation.
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The English one is 12294 for SDN
12294 England 12295 Scotland 12296 Northern Ireland I have no way of checking whether or not 12295 and 12296 are still used. |
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12293 Wales
12294 England 12295 Scotland 12296 Northern Ireland I have no way of checking whether or not 12295 and 12296 are still used. TSID 12293 is for Scotland and TSID 12295 is for Wales, the data seems to have been transposed at some point. All 4 regions of SDN are still active but as stated previously, England, Scotland & Northern Ireland all carry the same channels. Also, the Arqiva multiplexes A, B, C & D each have unique TSIDs in Northern Ireland, offset +1 from the standard GB TSID numbers. |
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A correction to the above:
TSID 12293 is for Scotland and TSID 12295 is for Wales, the data seems to have been transposed at some point. All 4 regions of SDN are still active but as stated previously, England, Scotland & Northern Ireland all carry the same channels. Also, the Arqiva multiplexes A, B, C & D each have unique TSIDs in Northern Ireland, offset +1 from the standard GB TSID numbers. |
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Thanks for that. What is the TSID of RNI1_Minimux (the one with RTE on it in Northern Ireland and what are the SIDs for all the channels on that mux?
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I did several researches on internet, but did not found yet this info. Has a member already found the list of DVB-T service IDs?
