LK never patronises anyone ... just types stuff.

But Adele needs a therapist I think .....

Did you hear her say ... I never thought a good looking bloke could fancy me. Therefore it was ok for her to try to get it on with Lee and then when Lee fancied Sophie more AND proved to be the weakest link ... Alex?

Lack of self esteem I would have thought.

What was all that stuff about her and Jade sharing a flat ... and she still would share a flat but Jade has a LOT of problems to work out ....... hmmmm

I didn't like her - and nothing anyone can say will make me think she's a nice person.

Why would anyone like someone who tries to manipulative them?

By your own admision once you have an opinion you won't change. I prefer to think about myself as an intelligent enough person willing to consider other opinions. Given that for more that we watch the HM we don't know for certain what goes in their minds I prefer to leave their motives open to interpretation.

The liberty of discussion is the great safeguard of all other liberties. --Macaulay.

As for the manipulation bit, you are manipulating Adele's word to suit your own purposes .She never said she manipulated Jade. She said she was aware that Jade will tell others. If you think carefully you will agree that there is a big difference in meaning.

Well shoot me down in flames!!...lol

some people don't seem to know the difference between bitching and playing a game. Let me enlighten you, Adele, bad mouting, swearing, (boy could she cuss!) participating in bullying sessions - while being nice and telling hm's to their faces saying 'I really like you'. Hey, come to think of it! that's not only bitching, - that's being a downright nasty individual - but you get my drift, eh? Well That's bitching and then some!

PJ, (like him or loath him) when he was over on the rich side with them, began to notice Adele, Alex, Jade were being very 2 faced - but, unlike the viewers, he wasn't privy to the bitching sessions. He then told ....no, more like, he warned hm's what was going on. He did all this in a civilised manner. That's playing the game!.

Sheesh! didn't you learn that at your mother's knee?

What did Adele say about Alex?

I leave the patronizing to you.
You get so upset, maybe you should take a leaf from Alele's book.

Grin and bear it.

Get off your horse and drink your milk


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Why do you say everything I want to say .. but so much better !!!!

You are not living in the house but still have opinions about the HM. You will have to admit that if you were there and you disliked some of them you will be prepared to have a go at them in the same way you have done in this forum. Your language has not been better than Adele's if you check some of your posts. I assume that if you were in the house you will try to stay as long as possible. Would you go around telling your honest opinion or would you leave the steam off by opening up with people you trust?

You have said that PJ noticed Adele being 2face and that's exactly the contrary as she was being honest in front of him as to be critical about other HM. The problem is him and Jade have used this information for their own benefit. We all bitch about other people. You do all the time in this forum. The difference is when people spread it around with their own agenda in mind.

As for PJ, it seems everybody has forgotten that he made the most obscene comments about Sophie (about the most intimate part of her anatomy) and that for me is even worse than anything Adele has ever done. You see, our parameters for what is on or not, are slightly different.

Hey, we all need one!!


Yeah, it's obvious she has a lack of self-estim, she didn't try to hide but was open about it. Hardly something to make fun of it.
We all have had lack of self-estime at some point in our life.

Still what's wrong about that?! I have shared many times a flat with mates and friends who admitedly have lots of problem. At least she doesn't see Jade as some sort of a decease that everyone should stay away from.

I am not even going to try, but what a way of life you must be living if when you dislike someone you wont change your mind no matter what. I dislike PJ and Jade and Johnny role in the (mad) BB House, but I am sure I will like them and get on with them great if I ever met them in real life. I am happy to know that I reserve the right to change my mind on people's behavior.

Sound of an immature debater. Thanks for letting me know.

Oh, you are so righteous. SugarHiccup, was qouitng Adele's language in in this forum. not her own.

Ouch, darling...OUCH!
ROFLMAO

Sticks and stones may break my bones
But ...er.....whips and chains excite me.........CHING!

But you seem to have the knack of making a point without making an enemy, well done you!

Didn't anyone else see PJ tell Jonny and the pig that he was grateful not to be up against Alex and Jonny as he would have lost - but that he was confident that he would not be evicted over Kate ???

If I was ambivalent towards him for a while - that certainly earned him my vote this week ................

When did he say that Kate would be evicted over him?

If this is true he has just earned my vote aswell!!

So, how do you explain Jade still being in there then? She's a much nastier piece of work than Adele was, and she's only changed since seeing the shrink, and BB guiding her on her behaviour in the house. Surely that's wrong. As Nasty Nick said, 'If you live by the sword, you die by the sword'.

Before anyone comes back with Adele was controlling Jade. How do you explain her part of the bullying of Alex then, which was even before Adele really got to know Jade.

What did Adele say about Alex?

did anyone hear adele on the chris moyles show? She admitted the reason she went into the BB house was just to raise her profile as a DJ...then later in the show the booker from Cream rang in to offer her a night's residence, looks like it worked! So much for not wanting wannabees!

Good for her!!. As for wannabes, this year has the highest concentration yet. The only HM that believes that BB is going to be negative is Alex and Sandy couldn't care less. All the others want a break in show business, even Kate (her parents admited to it)

and Spencer. I forgot about him...

So you're saying that any body who talks about someone behind their back, then is nice to their face, is bitching and being 2 faced.

Well, lets see, everyone nominated Jade last week. Yesterday, everyone was talking behind her back, discussing how she'd twisted their words around to suit her own means. Then today, they're all being nice to her. So, that must mean that all the HM's are just like Adele.

On the subject of PJ. He was joining in with bitching and laughing about Sophie in the bedroom. Of the 4, it was only him and Jade who voted for her. So does that make him worse than Adele and Alex, or the same as Jade?

Adelle had gone dtriaght out and got on with it. It's not like she went into hiding to get away from the hate filled crowd. It's like she just doesn't care...................Good on her.

( wormy little impostor )

difference is mainly in the style and delivery of the 'bitch'! also dont ever recall anyone else threatening to "F*****g deck" anyone! she is a nasty piece of goods and a gobsh***! if this is a strong woman then the prisons are full of them. If a man had made such a threat this forum would be up in arms about violent thugs and typical macho behaviour.
P.S I think jonny did well not to t**t Sandy!

yep you're right, I suppose it was obvious that the only people applying to BB this year would be wannabes, why else would people want to stay locked up in a house with a certain amount of people they'll dislike without access to TV,radio, news etc. I can believe that some people did it for the experience in previous years but not now...I shudder to think what BB4 will be like..

fatherjack:
I seriously don't think that Jonny would be capable of twa**ing Sandy.

About P.J. and Adele.

On Channel 4's site Adele is desciribed as two-faced and bitchy.
Fair point, I won't argue with that.

P.J. is described as a "loveable rogue".

The stuff posted here in anti-P.J. threads about a week ago says otherwise.

I don't know what's loveable about beating your girlfriend to a pulp.