It is yet another clear example of the flagrant sexism on TV these days. You are absolutely right: if PJ had threatend to f deck someone like that he would have been reviled but somehow the standards don't cross the divide.



As to Jonny and Sandy: Sandy said what he said in a very calm and non agressive manner. It was said in public, to his face and Jonny had full opportunity to reply / contradict / whatever had he wanted to. He chose not to because I think he already knew the truth of much of it.

Why exactly should people thump someone else just because they don't like what they are hearing?

I have to agree with you in the way that they describe different conversations.

Take last week, Adele and Alex were in bed chatting about all the HM's. The official site described it as them bitching about the HM's. PJ, Jonny and Kate had a similar chat in the kitchen about all the HM's, and they described it as them holding a conversation about the HM's. Then on the BB nightly prog, they showed a part of the Adele and Alex chat, because it fitted nicely to their get Adele out campaign, but didn't show one word of the others conversation.

Agree with you.

There's hype all over the place. Doesn't matter who you love or hate, they have to bring attention to the BB story.

I suppose if it was a balanced view, they wouldn't get much media coverage or a frenzy of votes.

I mean the hype that covered Nasty Nick was ridiculous, it's only in hindsight that we can see that what he did was in context of a competitive game.

You bitch, I bitch, everybody bitches. Even in BB1 Craig threatened to knock Nick out. He even called Caroline an old slapper. But the public loved him, because he was presented as being good.

It's impossible to expect everyone to be genuine 100% of the time, nobody can do it. If they show true negative emotions or let out steam, they don't last. If they can control their true emotions they are two-faced, obviously but they have a better chance of winning.

It's impossible and wrong to try and judge people from what little we know about them. It doesn't matter if you have E4 and can see them all the time, we know Jack shit about them, and we definitely can't read their minds.

We can only go by how they perform on screen on who we like or don't like. We can't really suss them out as people, just get clues.

I can't see why people are still going on about Adele, what do they want to happen to her.


It'll be interesting to see what happens on the night of the final.
Will they all hate each other? Will there be two seperate groups of people?

I reckon that they'll all be fine.

Adele had only one type of conversation.
The bit about adele and alex in the bedroom bitching and pj jonny and kate bitching in the kitchen, was they spent 2 mins out of about 3 hours and adele and alex was constant for over an hour before adele fell asleep bored after winding alex to fever pitch.
Of course they all do a bit of it, trouble was Adele never let up, and it was boring and repetitive.
Just look at how Alex is just getting on with it now, he is much better off without her.

Anyroadup!

I'm not saying that talking behind hm's back is not acceptable.... I'm not saying hm's saying Jade twisted their words is not right. (phew! there was a moment, there, when I thought I was never going to get out of those negatives, but the crisis is passed, now, and I am expected to pull through It is that there are certain hm's Adele and Alex for instance, who are the only ones that accused Jade of twisting their words - and only they had reason for saying it. Talking behind hm's backs (even being angry at hm's) is fine in the context of the show. Malicious, vindictive, hate filled, idle bitching of hm's is just not acceptable, it's not big - and in Adele's case, not clever! I personally, don't think it's necessary, but I'm weird like that. I guess I'm not alone, couple of million viewers seem to be as weird as me...lol

PJ? I'm no fan of his, but he wasn't involved in the bullying/bitching of Sophie, his reason for voting for her was she interrupted conversations.