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PJ out of order
webby1
08-07-2002
Pj was so wrong tonight having a go at Jade for talking behind his back.
Jade has'nt talked about PJ behind his back, (every other HM yes) but not PJ.
Adele rubished PJ because she realised he was on to her.

When did Jade rubish PJ, I cant remember, If so what did she say.
She spoke the truth tonight, In fact she has ever since Adele went.
Jade's OK.

PJ out.

Kate to win BB.
MustGetOutMore
08-07-2002
I agree with the last statement...
KATE TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MGOM
l_mac
08-07-2002
She told Alex that PJ and Spencer were making him look like a fool in week 3, and that they didn't really like him - complete lie.

Jade joined Adele in PJ bashing on several occassions, discussing how he couldn't be trusted.

There is no-one in the house that Jade hasn't bitched about. Not one single person.
homer911
08-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by webby1
Pj was so wrong tonight having a go at Jade for talking behind his back.
Jade has'nt talked about PJ behind his back, (every other HM yes) but not PJ.
Adele rubished PJ because she realised he was on to her.

When did Jade rubish PJ, I cant remember, If so what did she say.
She spoke the truth tonight, In fact she has ever since Adele went.
Jade's OK.

PJ out.

Kate to win BB.
”

i don't think he was out of order. he has said what people have been saying here for weeks
cazkins
08-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by MustGetOutMore
I agree with the last statement...
KATE TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MGOM
”

So do I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
logiegreen
08-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by webby1
Pj was so wrong tonight having a go at Jade for talking behind his back.
Jade has'nt talked about PJ behind his back, (every other HM yes) but not PJ.
Adele rubished PJ because she realised he was on to her.

When did Jade rubish PJ, I cant remember, If so what did she say.
She spoke the truth tonight, In fact she has ever since Adele went.
Jade's OK.

PJ out.

Kate to win BB.
”

I don't like the guy at all but ...
What do you call telling Alex that he was a**elicking PJ and Spencer and that they were taking the p*ss out of him? Whether or not PJ was doing that is not the issue, the fact is she told Alex he was. Surely that's talking behind his back?
Rennie
08-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by webby1
Pj was so wrong tonight having a go at Jade for talking behind his back.

”

I don't think PJ's main gripe was that he thought she spoke about him behind his back more the fact she blabber mouths left, right and centre and changes her viewpoint quicker than the British weather.

Jade's overall behaviour is annoying PJ (surely we can all relate to that), I think he has a short fuse which he has kept under control to quite an extent in the house but it's beginning to go now.

The thing is PJ will just get more and more irritated as Jade has demonstrated she doesn't have the intelligence to be able to have a discussion about such feelings and move on so it's a no win situation for both of them.
Dipsh1t
08-07-2002
Quote:
“Pj was so wrong tonight having a go at Jade for talking behind his back.”

PJ was anything but out of order. he should be praised for finally confronting jade and telling her exactly what she needs to hear. well done pj!
fan-at-ic
08-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by webby1
Pj was so wrong tonight having a go at Jade for talking behind his back.
Jade has'nt talked about PJ behind his back, (every other HM yes) but not PJ.
Adele rubished PJ because she realised he was on to her.

When did Jade rubish PJ, I cant remember, If so what did she say.
She spoke the truth tonight, In fact she has ever since Adele went.
Jade's OK.

PJ out.

Kate to win BB.
”

No, if anything he's brave for telling her what everyone in the house has been talking about behind her back for two weeks at least. Yes, as pointed out she's said negative things about every single person in the house at times, and yes, PJ's point (which Jade failed to understand too) was not specificly about comments about him, or anyone but her general behaviour...he was trying to tell her "grow up and stop looking to spread gossip and rumour and generally acting a drama queen"...what she heard was "people have told me you've bitched on me and I don't like you no more"...Sadly, another example of her failing to grasp what being an adult means....

...PJ probably isn't the best person to talk to her about this because he does have a short fuse he's trying to fight (a skill he's working on which will probably do him good when he gets out!). What she really needs is someone who can remain calm, give her specific examples, and refuse to rise to her defence of getting upset or anoyed. Anyone in the house who could do that?

Oh, and KATE TO WIN!
Adsam
08-07-2002
its about time someone with any bottle told jade what they thought of her.

and as for kate, i've never heard someone munch food so loudly....

ohh yes i have a cow chewing grass
agg01
09-07-2002
Earlier in the BB3 series, I would have concurred with many in these threads: that Jade sets the hm benchmark in visible backbiting behaviour.

She continues to vacillate between tears & smiles, warmth & distance etc. Yet, in truth, her behaviour hasn't particularly degenerated over the weeks. In fact, it has been eclipsed by that of Adele, Alex, & Tim.

PJ, though, has plumbed a new depth of loutishness. Not content with previously asserting the antiquated male justification of alcohol use excusing sexual behaviour (whilst simultaneously rubbishing his partner's standing), his hypocracy has continued in availing himself of the other services Jade has provided: both domestic & informational.

Perceiving himself to have escaped censor over his actions, his abuse has now escalated - reasons immaterial. The abuse remains directed towards the weakest (certainly educationally & intellectually) housemate - classic thuggish behaviour. It was notable how readily he deferred to Spencer, refusing to challenge an individual more his stature.

For someone who constantly makes reference to a vast array of previous girlfriends, sexual activity, and sheer male prowess - he has demonstrated little appreciation or understanding of how to generate female goodwill - let alone affection. Women are allowed all manner of vote these days; and doubtless will not be moved by the tears PJ shed over a few week's voluntary separation from his family.

If he had been similarly moved by someone else's discomfort, rather than only his own, PJ may have gone some way to redeeming himself. As it stands, he has become the House pig, not Jade.
domino
09-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by agg01

If he had been similarly moved by someone else's discomfort, rather than only his own, PJ may have gone some way to redeeming himself. As it stands, he has become the House pig, not Jade.
”

here here!!! down with pj, up with Jade... Jade rules, long live Jade!!!
d
agg01
09-07-2002
Wasn't precisely suggesting she rules - rather that there are grosser hogs in the trough!
aonz90
09-07-2002
for most of the argument the sound was cut, missed about half of it
metafis
09-07-2002
the fools even leave the sound cuts in the clips they show on E4 sky interactive.
They cant even be bothered to edit the clips properly, they just leave all the original sound blanks in. They should at least edit properly, eg replacing swear words with a single bleep instead of long gaps.
Ed E
09-07-2002
To fan-at-ic and agg01 :- I agree with both your posts....really well analysed in my opinion, especially the point about the difference between what comes out of someone's mouth and what Jade actually hears! Nobody in the house seems capable of mediating between warring factions....they all just opt out, talking among themselves, or act as further irritants.
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