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petergoat
08-07-2002
Tonight's comment about Alex is the THIRD time PJ has shown himself to be a homophobic bigot. He apparantly also made racist comments ealrier today and his attitude towards women has been all too obvious ... can we PLEASE vote him out.
chrissie
08-07-2002
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“Originally posted by petergoat
Tonight's comment about Alex is the THIRD time PJ has shown himself to be a homophobic bigot. He apparantly also made racist comments ealrier today and his attitude towards women has been all too obvious ... can we PLEASE vote him out. ”

YES I HAVE
Mad Paro Cat
08-07-2002
how was he being homophobic?! He just said he thought Alex was gay, is that being homophobic? I don't think so.
chuff
08-07-2002
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“Originally posted by petergoat
Tonight's comment about Alex is the THIRD time PJ has shown himself to be a homophobic bigot. He apparantly also made racist comments ealrier today and his attitude towards women has been all too obvious ... can we PLEASE vote him out. ”

missed it, what did he say?
petergoat
08-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Mad Paro Cat
how was he being homophobic?! He just said he thought Alex was gay, is that being homophobic? I don't think so. ”

He didnt say he was gay .... he made a stupid whistling noise
Mad Paro Cat
08-07-2002
ok he indicated he thought he might be gay by making a stupid whistling noise. I still don't see the homophobia. Does that mean whistling is homophobic now?!
petergoat
08-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Mad Paro Cat
ok he indicated he thought he might be gay by making a stupid whistling noise. I still don't see the homophobia. Does that mean whistling is homophobic now?! ”

Yes - happy now?
AcerBen
08-07-2002
I don't think suggesting that someone is gay is homophobic unless he added an 'ewww' or taunted him about it Don't like him anyway, he's obsessed with sex
petergoat
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by AcerBen
I don't think suggesting that someone is gay is homophobic unless he added an 'ewww' or taunted him about it Don't like him anyway, he's obsessed with sex ”

He actually said ... "For the first two weeks I thought he was .. "
and made a stupid whistling noise.

He previously had used the word "batty man" when speaking to Lee (presumably thinking he was being very clever and a real LAD).
Dveron
09-07-2002
Hmm I see stories in the paper about Alex having sex with models and all I see about PJ is him hitting women..hmmm.
Gavin-
09-07-2002
I didn't think PJ's comment was directly homophobic. All he said was: "In the first few weeks I thought Alex was, you know... [whistling noise]".

That's not homophobic. But it does show that PJ is afraid to use the word "gay", as if just saying the word is enough to become gay. PJ has a stupid masculine macho thing going on, and most "macho" guys are afraid to even talk about homosexuality, as if talking about it makes you gay.

All he showed is that he's a bit close-minded and insecure with homosexuality.
petergoat
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Gavin-
I didn't think PJ's comment was directly homophobic. All he said was: "In the first few weeks I thought Alex was, you know... [whistling noise]".

That's not homophobic. But it does show that PJ is afraid to use the word "gay", as if just saying the word is enough to become gay. PJ has a stupid masculine macho thing going on, and most "macho" guys are afraid to even talk about homosexuality, as if talking about it makes you gay.

All he showed is that he's a bit close-minded and insecure with homosexuality.
”

A chrysanthemum by any other name would be a lot easier to pronounce
domino
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Dveron
Hmm I see stories in the paper about Alex having sex with models and all I see about PJ is him hitting women..hmmm. ”

well that is that then... oot with pj - there are lots of wholesome expletives suitable for his type. and i'd just like to add for the record, that having sex with models is extraordinarily good fun and should be mastered as the earliest oportunity (prefereably before 11am).

ta ra
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fallyhag
09-07-2002
The strange thing about the DS forum is that it attracts some very worrying threads.

Whistling is Homophopic?????

Pathetic, he was just saying, or expressing what we all thought at first when he met the very camp bloke. Lets face it, he aint no weight lifting coal miner is he....

Please end this pathetic thread.
fallyhag
09-07-2002
I just saw PJ wink, I think he is racist too......

Point made.

petergoat
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by fallyhag
The strange thing about the DS forum is that it attracts some very worrying threads.

Whistling is Homophopic?????

Pathetic, he was just saying, or expressing what we all thought at first when he met the very camp bloke. Lets face it, he aint no weight lifting coal miner is he....

Please end this pathetic thread.
”

Are you deliberately missing the point, are are u just thick?
postmanbaz
09-07-2002
a homophobic comment is saying alex is gay because he acts camp....

gays come from all strat of society, and some may act camp, but so do some straight men.

saying someone is gay because they act camp is homophobic, and immature......

the campest people I know, and I am gay, are two people who work with me, who happen to be happily married with kids, and as straight as a die...

can we just ditch these stupid generalisations....like the he walks funny, nudge nudge wink wink....its stupid...

Go to a gay pride march and you will find the majority of marchers are as butch as hell
SugarHiccup
09-07-2002
Graham Norton made references to Alex being 'A friend of Dorothys'= he's gay. He must be homophobic too.
Devilot
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by SugarHiccup
Graham Norton made references to Alex being 'A friend of Dorothys'= he's gay. He must be homophobic too. ”

I think more likely hes just HOPING hes gay - he soooo fancies Alex!!!
Double
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by postmanbaz
a homophobic comment is saying alex is gay because he acts camp....

gays come from all strat of society, and some may act camp, but so do some straight men.

saying someone is gay because they act camp is homophobic, and immature......

the campest people I know, and I am gay, are two people who work with me, who happen to be happily married with kids, and as straight as a die...

can we just ditch these stupid generalisations....like the he walks funny, nudge nudge wink wink....its stupid...

Go to a gay pride march and you will find the majority of marchers are as butch as hell
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I agree with all you have to say. I'm not sure the idiots in the house, or some of the members on this board think too deeply about their rigid and pathetic definition of masculinity or sexuality.

I'm getting not a little satisfaction from noting that camp, fussy and moaning Alex has had a sex-life (het) that would have a lot of guys in a slavering wreck of blueball jealousy. Brazillian model here (still friends), Slovak model there (still friends), stripper for a teacher...and apparently nice guys finish last...but we knew that, didn't we girls.
Roebuck
09-07-2002
I am not so sure that PJ is homophobic but there are too many other bad points to his credit his continued presence in the BigBrother House,

Point 1: He was arrested (but not charged) for common assault a year or two ago, for allegedly fighting with a woman in a nightclub.

Point 2: He has probably the only housemate that has obtained his place in the BigBrother house in contravention of the rules, in that potential housemates must have not appeared in any other reallity TV Show, PJ appeared on SkyOne's "The Villa", did not do too well in that either.

PJ should be evicted on those two grounds alone, but as he not one of the more interesting HM's then there should be no real contest, bye-bye PJ
Jason C
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by petergoat


Are you deliberately missing the point, are are u just thick?
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There is no need for that; please remember:

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“2.1 You must not post messages that are vulgar, crude, sexist, racist, homophobic or otherwise offensive. Always treat other Users with respect.”

Roebuck
09-07-2002
[quote]Originally posted by petergoat

Re: ...

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Originally posted by Mad Paro Cat
ok he indicated he thought he might be gay by making a stupid whistling noise. I still don't see the homophobia. Does that mean whistling is homophobic now?!
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Yes - happy now?

[quote]

I think someone need to understand what HOMOPHOBIA actually means!!,
Homo = Man (as in the general term, which does also include both Man & Woman)
Phobia = uncontrolable Fear (or Loathing)

in the context that is being used with regard to Alex and PJ, there is great difference between making a statement which is considered to be a persons opinion & showing disdain or making derogatory remarks.

Why are you looking so hard for Homophobia between the housemates, if PJ was homophobic he would probably choose not to share the same bedroom with someone he regarded in that manner.

I personally do not like PJ myself, but I will NOT support an allegation that he is guilty of something which has not even been considered my 99% of viewers, On your terms of guilt every member of the BigBrother House is Homophobic as they have all whistled, whispered, even discussed homosexuality with regard to some of the other housemates, including Adele, Alex, Kate & Sandy
MrNice
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Roebuck

I think someone need to understand what HOMOPHOBIA actually means!!,
Homo = Man (as in the general term, which does also include both Man & Woman)
Phobia = uncontrolable Fear (or Loathing)

in the context that is being used with regard to Alex and PJ, there is great difference between making a statement which is considered to be a persons opinion & showing disdain or making derogatory remarks.

Why are you looking so hard for Homophobia between the housemates, if PJ was homophobic he would probably choose not to share the same bedroom with someone he regarded in that manner.

I personally do not like PJ myself, but I will NOT support an allegation that he is guilty of something which has not even been considered my 99% of viewers, On your terms of guilt every member of the BigBrother House is Homophobic as they have all whistled, whispered, even discussed homosexuality with regard to some of the other housemates, including Adele, Alex, Kate & Sandy [/b]”

Hmm, maybe I am imagining this, but I was certain that PJ has on several occasions mentioned to others that he thought Alex was gay, in particular I remember a couple of discussions with Spencer about this when they were on the poor side, my opinion then was that he was homophobic.

As it happens, I dont think that being homophobic is that big a deal, I think its probably just like any other irrational fear and not something to bash someone for. I have a fear of bees, we all know someone who is affaid of spiders, we dont bash people for thier fears, why should PJ's fear be something to attack him with.

I think its probably a case of those that dislike PJ would like to use the pink vote to get him out (of the house, not the closet)

Nice.
Straker
09-07-2002
Jesus - Lighten up. Alex gives off ambiguous and confusing signals. All PJs comments have been about are an attempt to sound out others as to whether or not they think he’s gay. That does not constitute homophobia. I don’t see PJ recoiling in disgust whenever he talks to Alex which he would if he was quote "homophobic".

Some people could do with being less hyper-sensitive. Hang PJ for things he has done and said but don’t manipulate an innocent comment into something it wasn’t.
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