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E4 Update: Jade under fire
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PiggyOut!
09-07-2002
For a good hour or so now, Alex has been spilling the beans about just about all of Jade's Kate related bitching, from Lee onwards. Kate seems mad as hell and has said she's not going to be friendly with Jade anymore and feels like confronting her. She also says she hopes Sophie wasn't taken in by Jade apology and will slag off Jade if she's evicted this week.

In other news, (on feed B) for a long while now PJ and Jade have been in the (I think) bathroom. PJ is having a go at Jade. Haven't watched too much as the Kate/Alex stuff is pretty compulsive but it seems he's picking her out on details of when she's been backstabbing people. Every few minutes he goes something like "I don't care, leave it", she'll attempt to justify herself and PJ will start up again!

All in all, great TV. I wonder how much of this two pronged character assassination will be shown on the new Jade friendly C4. Whatever the case, the HM's certainly seem to have totally lost patience with her. It's just a shame there are no nominations this week. I think Kate in particular will have no time for Jade after everything Alex has told her, see seems pretty mad by all accounts.
Spud Father
09-07-2002
Great TV and it is still going on : Kate, Jonny & PJ slagging Jade. It's about time : Piggyout-C4 cannot fail to show this stuff...
accidie
09-07-2002
The whole thing lasted around 5 hours, expect 3 minutes of it to make C4 tonight.
gazza71
09-07-2002
They had such a boring morning and afternoon, it would be criminal for the editors not to give at least 15 - 20 minutes to all this...

The pillow fight, the water fight, Alex/Kate, PJ/Jade, Kate/PJ/Jonny.

I wonder if they'll show anything about the Spencer/Kate fiddling thing? Because you know if Kate confronts Jade now, that will be brought up, and the viewers will be thinking "what the hell?"


I love this - they've gone out of their way to make Jade seem a lovely person and now stuff about her I didn't even know is coming out. There's no way they can show Jade in a good light anymore. PJ is going to come out (hopefully, even though I like him) and just destroy her.

Personal highlights... Kate lying on the table singing Blue Moon whilst Jonny sprayed water all over her. And the way she just jumped into the pool.

Alex saying "Will you all **** off and leave me and Katie to play follow the van" (could become a national sport) - He's wanted her from day one, and still does. Horny bastard.

Alex wearing his glasses whilst watching the pillow fight. Dunno why I found this so amusing, but I did.

Kate falling onto Alex's bed and Alex saying "Don't worry, you'll be safe with me"

Thought there was something very sweet about Alex drying Kates hair as well.
BlueEyes
09-07-2002
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“I wonder if they'll show anything about the Spencer/Kate fiddling thing? Because you know if Kate confronts Jade now, that will be brought up, and the viewers will be thinking "what the hell?"”

What's the fiddling thing...what did I miss? Had to head off to bed just as Alex and Kate got chatting.
mromega
09-07-2002
From what I can gather at this late/early hour, it was a full on groping & kissing session rather than anything similar to what PJ & Jade indulged in. Nothing to much.
metafis
09-07-2002
Poor old jade. shes not the only one backstabbing and bitching Tim does it as well, Does kate know what Tim says about her?.
alex and tim awhen they are together are just as backstabbing.
ffs the other day Jonny was being really good to Tim, (when tim was blubbing), and literally minites later, Tim goes to the bedroom with Alex and starts slagging jonny off!.

Yes Jade has backstabbed, but cmon, she aint the only one.
and she did tell PJ the truth about being in the garden, even though he didnt believe her.

(Ch4 yesterday Jade in the garden, Kate asks her what she doing there and Jade says 'Oh Im just thinking about my friends and family'.
JUmp to last night..PJ accuses Jade of 'moping in the garden about HIM!!(PJ). Jade tells him why she was there(thinking about her friends and family) and PJ says 'Dont give me that soft soap stuff, I dont believe you'. or summat like that


Yes Jade hasnt behaved well, but she being made a bit of a scapegoat by PJ. why doesnt he have a go a Tim or Alex about 'bitching'?..
BlueEyes
09-07-2002
Cheers mromega...caught it all on the other thread & news
Emzi
09-07-2002
It seems they're all suddenly getting very paranoid and making sudden 'life-raft' friendships...at Jade's expence as usual.

For the record Jade has said on several occasions that both winning Big Brother and the money isn't her aim.

Is it just me or are they all suddenly becoming very unlikeable?
Ed E
09-07-2002
To Emzi:- Yes, I agree that last nights rows didn't show anyone in a good light. I missed the pillow fight and water fight because I'd already found their stripping game uncomfortable viewing. Jade's not my favourite person but I don't like the way the others treat her. I've followed events on another thread where everyone seemed to find it hilarious. Before I'm labelled a killjoy, I'd likr to say that I'm all in favour of the fun and games, just not the nastiness. I was hoping BB would call someone to the Diary Room just as a gentle reminder about Jade's drinking, and suggest they cool it a little....but they just left them to it. And why oh why is Kate listening to Alex.....he's a complete rambling berk when he's drunk!
CPA
09-07-2002
I was shattered last night and had to go to bed and missed all the fun!! thanks to this site I have just been updated on the nights events and have now a true account of what happened.
Gonna have E4 on 2day waiting 4 them to get up and hopefully fireworks will fly and Jade will get her cumupance.
How much u wanna bet that Jonny turns Alex's comments into it all being about him?
So self centred that man... I mean !!!! In his eyes he deserves to win cos he is a fireman and likes to get naked lol.
Bring it on 2day I think a few more home truths are gonna be coming out.
I don't mind either way for either Alex or Kate to win, be nice for a girl to win 4 a change though.
spearish
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by emzi restalez
It seems they're all suddenly getting very paranoid and making sudden 'life-raft' friendships...at Jade's expence as usual.

For the record Jade has said on several occasions that both winning Big Brother and the money isn't her aim.

Is it just me or are they all suddenly becoming very unlikeable?
”

VERY unlikeable ...wanted Katie to win ...now ..none of them !
My stomach turns listening to ALEX ..who lets face it has done or at least agreed with 99% of the backstabbing going on in that house ...disgusted !
nelly-j
09-07-2002
i felt very uncomfortable about the drinking games last night, especially when they played the stripping game, couldn't believe kate-she was a right cow to jade ! jade was drunk and easily led by kate , with kate telling jade she had to strip as she had agreed to it, then kate stopped the game as she was having to strip and said that if blokes strip they are geezers if girls do it they are slags. to which jade was saying ,"but you told me i had to strip kate" .
pj and tim were working out difficult surnames to get jade to strip and kate loved it.
i just felt very uncomfortable about it ,even jonny joined in with pj when they refused to get out of the shower room as jade was in the nude screaming at them to get out.
I felt like i was watching someone getting sexually assaulted....perhaps it's just me, if it is just ignore this post.
i want them all to have to watch jade win it now...and watch their faces ..love it !
lulu
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by PiggyOut!
All in all, great TV. I wonder how much of this two pronged character assassination will be shown on the new Jade friendly C4. Whatever the case, the HM's certainly seem to have totally lost patience with her. It's just a shame there are no nominations this week. I think Kate in particular will have no time for Jade after everything Alex has told her, see seems pretty mad by all accounts. ”

Hopefully they show a good bit of it! I missed last night but caught up with the goings on through the DS highlights (thank you). I'll definitely have it on today to see if there are any after shocks!

Seems like booze was the motivating factor again. I wonder if they have drunk their week's quota!

lu
observer
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Ed E
To Emzi:- Yes, I agree that last nights rows didn't show anyone in a good light. I missed the pillow fight and water fight because I'd already found their stripping game uncomfortable viewing. Jade's not my favourite person but I don't like the way the others treat her”

Do you think that C4/BB will use this event to make a master editing of it , followed by a master PR compaign to make her WIN the final. After all she will be perceived as the victim, a young and naieve 21 years old who has been led by the horns, not her fault, but everybody else fault. Just like they did to oust Adele (especially if today things kick off and all the HMs gang up against Jade)

Hmmm, do you think that some of the BB producers are accomplice with the betting syndicate, and now are in a 5gears shif to polish the last weeks of BB to make Jade win. They sure will make a FORTUNE if they play their cards right.
nelly-j
09-07-2002
last night's tv was uncomfortable viewing and if anyone thought the conning of jade into getting naked was funny , i wonder if you would have enjoyed your sister doing the same.sorry to take this so seriously but i can't help feeling really uncomfortable about it. whatever jade had done in the past weeks did not justify how they are all treating her... kate in particular took great delight in goading jade then making her look the fool.
i hope kate goes this week then pj or tim.
Chipsticks
09-07-2002
Got to agree about the drinking/strip game, OK Jade agreed to it and to her credit she stuck to what she agreed to, everybody else however were appauling Tim and PJ especially. It is clear that Jade has a low tolerance level for alcohol, and this was clearly abused by both PJ and Tim, very demeaning to women. Wasn't it funny how the rules kept changing.

Last night, however entertaining, highlighted the fact, that everybody is as bad as each other.

The Alex/Kate conversation - Alex uses Kate to divert all attention to Jade, Kate more confused angry than ever.

The pillow/water fights - Both PJ and Jonny are clearly stronger, and used this to their advantage.

The PJ/Jade arguments - Sorry l don't see that this confrontation by PJ was admirable, he has had numerous opportunities to bring his views to Jades attention, however he starts the week he is going to get evicted, how much of this tirade was purely to try and heave himself out of the sh1t pile he has created for himself. PJ clearly has no respect for women, with how he has treated Jade. It is interesting that he has changed his tactic on getting info from Jade, a couple of nights back in the garden, he tried to find out how the other HM's perceived him, this nicey nice approach didn't work. So instead he turned bad policeman, upset Jade, in another attempt to get info. People have said he was calm and kept him cool and gave a reasoned approach to the situation, l saw anger and a very controlling attitude, his posture was agressive, and his facial expressions were agressive, this was intimidation not confrontation. Jade was in a no win situation, Jade may have said the odd thing about PJ, however l think most of her comments came after BJ gate, when he totally ignored her, l think this was justified. Out of all the HM's l believe that Jade considered PJ the person she got on most with, and she was knocked for six last night.

PJ/Kate and Jonny - They are no better than the Jade/Adele and Alex trio for backstabbing.

Tim - Very quite, very calculating, very cunning, as somebody said on BBLB the solitory lion waiting for the big kill.

Although Jade is now having to face the firing squad, over her actions, she has been funny, she has got involved. She has also been easily led, and is now being used, how easy is it for one HM to use Jade as an excuse to get at another HM, or to try and get themselves off the hook.

IMO if anybody deserves to win this year it is Kate, she has been the most upfront, and the least bitchy, she is funny and has been the least false. However her attitude towards Jade during the drinking game showed her in a different light, and she dropped in my estimation.

BB3 has given us the best insight into human behaviour at it's worse, and has succeeded where the last two failed. However there have been a number of failing's and l feel that C4's Cash Cow may need to be put to pasture, it has now run it's course.
Chipsticks
09-07-2002
Sorry posted duplicate by mistake.
pRy
09-07-2002
The latest pillow fight was not as good as the first one. The first one was alot better imo.
LadyKnight
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by nelly-j
last night's tv was uncomfortable viewing . ”

I did too nelly. I thought it was so bad I turned it off and missed the bitch fest that went on later.

It was downright nasty, the other housemates should have shown more common sense/common decency and Jade should have had more self-respect.

BB I think should have stopped that but I suppose they want to use it for their uncut version.

LK - totally disgusted with the entire episode.
KimWim
09-07-2002
Haven't seen any of this but after reading this thread - feel really sorry for jade. It sounds like she's in for a right bashing today - are any of the HMs up yet? nothing on the live updates yet. Really not looking forward to today's events if it turns into an all out assault on Jade by all the HMs. I don't think her personality would be able to cope with it.
daisyanne
09-07-2002
I thought it was all quite hilarious and Jade was a more than willing participant, who in my view couldnt wait to take her clothes off. She didnt protest too much. She could easily have stormed off if she wasnt willing to join in.

She is an adult and is not much younger than some of the other HMs, so no excuse there. Kate was joining in the game but she was also trying to be fair and protect Jade.

Nobody made Jade lie on the floor naked with her knees bent up so people could see her bare bottom (and attached parts!). She did that willingly all by herself. Kate was the one that covered Jade up with a blanket to save her modesty.

Jade IS entertaining, but for ALL the wrong reasons. I certainly dont see her as someone who when attacked verbally cant stick up for herself - far from it.

Daisyanne
0utlaw
09-07-2002
Feeling sorry for Jade? lol. Uncomfortable viewing? yes ok...
The UK BB is the most timid of all of them - we are the only ones I think never to have sex in the house, the American BB had someone pulled a knife out on the other housemates! Now just because they play a game of strip whatever you find it "Uncomfortable" viewing. Jade agreed to play the game and she lost fairly like she does every other game, I dont see how they were "taking advantage" of her.

I mean we did'nt even see anything, not that I wanted to see Jade like that but past midnight I think the censorship should lighten up a bit. Im also really glad the other housemates are starting to realise all the bitching Jade has been doing and from now on she deserves everything she gets!
KimWim
09-07-2002
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“Originally posted by 0utlaw
now on she deserves everything she gets! ”

Why? Other than the attack on Sophie which was terrible (and for which she was the only 1 out of the HMs that apologised. PJ, Adele, Alex were all involved) has jade done that was worse than any other HM. They all bitch they all talk about each other. Alex has done more backstabbing than Jade. PJ has back stabbed. Jonny/Kate has been talking about everyone else, just as Jade/Adele used to and Tim is as 2-faced as the rest. So please explain your comments to me - What singles her out? other than her background (educational, life experience, etc.)
daisyanne
09-07-2002
Jade only "apologised" after being virtually told to by the psychologist who brought up how she would come over to the public in a mammoth "coaching" session. There is no way she would have apologised off her own back.

She was insincere in her apology and tried to convince Sophie that she was nasty to her for Sophie's own good, to make Sophie stand up for herself!! Some apology eh?

You obviously havent access to E4

Daisyanne
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