just wondering if anyone else thinks that kate missed her big opportunity to get the public behind her?
when jade was like a lamb to the slaughter kate was very serious and told jade "you agreed to the rules so take your clothes off" also told jade to take off an extra jumper jade had found after the first "strip"
i was getting to like kate and feel that she should have called the game to a halt to protect jade.and b4 anyone says why should she do it...i for one would have done that to protect any drunk girl, anyway just seems a shame on kate that's all.

Kate did a lot for Jade last night, including covering her in a towel. Yet Jade seemed to reject all of Kates help. In the same position I would have done pretty much the same as Kate and left Jade to do what she wanted.

if you'd have kept watching, Kate got annoyed when Jade had to go totally nude, and started covering her up in blankets and stuff.

For some reason Jade got angry about this

Jade a big girl (literally even) she can do what she wants to do, Kate wasn't put in the house to babysit Jade.

Although I think if Adele was there she would have stopped it.

Most of Kate's help came after the game though, did it not?? During the game she was being very strict on Jade about the rules and seemed quite keen for the old cock-knee sparrer to whip out her thruppennies.

agree with everything ..own opinions and all that, but do you think kate has done herself any favours with the public. most threads i have read , people are not impressed. oh and by the way being a good samaritan isn't waiting until the girl is naked it's stopping it b4 it gets that far.

But why should Kate have to look after Jade? PJ, Alex, Jonny and Tim certainly didn't do themselves any favours either.

i agree they all came out badly, including jade.
i just think that kate was doing so well in the publics eye, that she may have shot herself in the foot.

I don't see why just because Jade chooses to act like a baby, that it is the moral responsibility of the other women to mother her!!

Alex walked away from the game. I think he came out of it marginally ahead. The problem for PJ is that where he was seated he was able to make the game harder for Jade, and he did. Kate made herself look (and sound) bad because she was particularly vociferous in her insistence on Jade complying with the stripping rules. Tim shared winks with PJ over confusing Jade into making mistakes (not so hard), and Jonny was perched on the edge of his seat as though he'd never seen a bosom before.
I think Kate's latent aggression to Jade came right to the fore actually. After all, she was never going to get any attention until the idiot savant had gone.

Hello. I've come out of lurkdom and actually registered in order to join in this discussion. As someone who has warmed to Kate over the last few weeks I was extremely disturbed to hear that she allowed this to happen let alone encouraged it. However, I didn't see it myself and I wonder if someone could explain to me in what way Jade rejected Kate's attempts to help her and cover her up.

i don't think it was the help from kate that jade spurned ,it was the fact that kate just kept harping on about blokes who go naked are geezers and girls are slags .i would imagine that jade took this to mean that kate thought jade had shown all and was a slag, to which jade kept saying" but yu didn't see everything and anyway you told me i had to strip as i had agreed to the rules".
as the pictures were lost we all only had sound through most of it so hope this helps.

I'll post this bit that was posted by Daisyanne in another thread

Kate did start saying about Geezers/Slags after they had retired to the bedroom, just before the pillow fight and it is an accurate reflection of the way our society unfortunately perceives the genders.

Talking of "attached parts" - did I see in another thread that Kate was explaining to Jade that her Lulu was attached to her backside. !!!!!?? What and why on earth was that conversation?

Jade was saying that only her arse was on view, it took Kate to tell her that the way she was sitting, everything was on view.

please remember that all the protective talking from kate came after jade had been naked for some time and the lads had turned their attention to kate...they managed to get her down to her bra..with jeans, she didn't like how the boys were ganging up on the girls and stopped the game.
just a shame it took all the hms cheating to get jade naked, the game carrying on for another 10mins b4 she decided the game was biased in favour of the lads.

That to me just shows that Kate is not a fool, going no further than anyone had already seen of her in her bikini. It seems she tried to stop things before they went beyond their individual personal boundaries - it's just that Kate boundaries aren't as loose as Jade's. Kate realised that while Jade was happy to go naked she didn't intend show the world her "kebab". Bleurgh.

Why should Kate 'protect' Jade? Jade is an adult (no matter how much people try and convince themselves otherwise) and hasn't been averse to taking her clothes off in front of cameras in the past. She could have refused to strip and walked away. She could have also refrained from drinking so much - lets face it, most people her age know their limits. If it had been a bloke who stripped naked there wouldn't be all this fuss would there? Why all the prudishness about female nudity?

What happened to the Jade who after her chat with Mr Miagi declared that she wasn't going to drink as much as she had been?

Without getting to Andrea Dworkin about this there is something extremely nasty and threatening about a group of men, who by definition will be able to take their drink better, cheating at a game to get some poor drunken idiot girl naked. No Jade should not have drunk to much but she was and that was the situation to be dealt with. If I saw someone walking out in front of a bus I would pull them back, I would not think "oh, they should have looked where they were going".

At that point Jade did need protecting from herself, and even from a purely selfish point of view as the only other woman Kate needed to do it. Otherwise she could have become a victim of the rather brutish atmosphere that Jade has helped to create.

Her confidence was undoubtedly bolstered when Adelle was evicted instead of her. She probably feels it's safe to drink again because we all love her anyway!!!

Frankly, it would have taken a JCB to stop Jade from making an a*se of herself. She kept repeating names (not allowed) and names that she got right in one round, she would get wrong the next time just to get a laugh and get her kit off quicker, eg Shania Twain in game 1 became Shanido Twaid in game 2, Brigitte Bardelle, etc
She was so desperate to be the centre of attention. That said, PJ, Jonny and Kate didn't need to look quite so eager!