answers on a post card please...

I reckon it was £20,000 and he gave chrissie around 7 grand.



obviously there is no right or wrong answer, it is just something that has been bugging me since that episode and it has taken till now for my account to be accepted.

what do you think?

i don't know but how can he afford to do it so quickly? he has the cafe, the arches, beales meals or something he isn't earning a fortune on the cafe and arches - my mum owned a cafe and she took about £500 a day but was paying out around £250 and this was in a high street!

well it's all about class systems in soaps, marxist theories and the like gone to extremes. ie, if they own a business they are all powerful, and thus have endless capital at their finger tips.

but yes, I agree it is unrealistic to the max

£20,000 for a pub with upstairs flat in East London? try £1,000,000 +

yeah but did you not see him scribble a couple of numbers down on a napkin and then show it to chrissie who accussed himof daylight robbery? I really think it was something rediculous like that.


in the real world it'd be £1 mill, but in eastenders.. no!

I used to live near Newcastle where small pubs went for £400,000 - £500,000. Someone I know has a tiny pub in East London with a 2 bedroom flat - is worth around £750,000.

So the Vic 3 bedrooms - quite big pub lots of potential (with a face lift) would easily be worth £1 million as people have suggested.

obviously I am aware of the real monetary value of the pub, but I am wondering what Ian Beals rediculous offer was, as I know he paid Chrissie most of the price in cash from his 'businesses'.

why would it cost as much as that? i know in general properties in london are quite pricey, but after all of the deaths in that pub, it wouldnt be that highly desirable would it in reality?

I thought the point about the deal was that Johnny was bankrolling it because Ian could only afford a percentage of it.

As to what he paid, it had to be big bucks as it was going to finance a life on the run. I'd just like to know where the cash is now though.

I notice they employed the usual writer's trick of not naming a value so as to avoid dating the episode - and, of course, to avoid having to explain how Ian would have "x" thousands of pounds readily available in cash.

But as Lippincote said, it would have to be an awful lot to finance a life on the run - although, of course, a fraction of the value, judging by the way Chrissie reacted to Ian's offer.

Just my two-pennorth, but I agree with the poster who estimated the value of the Vic at around £750K. Seems about right, property prices being what they are these days.

Even allowing for a hefty discount due to the temporary burial of the previous landlord on the premises, I still think the Vic would be out of Ian's league, realistically speaking.

Yes way out of Ian's league, which is why he asked Johnny to backroll it - which seems now to have been forgotten. Maybe this will be referred to again, then again, maybe not.

But it is just as much out of Phil's league isn't it? How the heck have either he or Peggy got any money at all, he's just out of jail and she was reduced to begging spare room off Pat. And I thought Grant was just 'getting by', not exactly rolling in a spare half a million.

I'm right with you on all of that.

I dislike this sloppiness, this lack of attention to detail, and I hope that we get an end to it soon. I'm willing to forgive them the odd bit of artistic licence in order to finish off all of the old plots bought about by the previous two regimes, but am not so forgiving that such a lot of major details like the ones mentioned above can be simply 'forgotten' about.

I'm not so sure, Ian has the chippy, the cafe, the arches and his own his all of which he'd be able to borrow against assuming he was debt free. His financial situation in the last number of years has always been a tad questionable.

What really gets to me is this CCTV camera that can pick up conversations from accross the room, so not only does it have a microphone but it also cancels out background noise.

Absolutely!

As I said, I can forgive them a certain amount of artistic licence in order to advance the plot (and because this is a soap) but that one is stretching things a bit.

As is the fact they conveniently forgot that Chrissie legitimately owns half of the Vic, yet Sharon is able to sell right away to the Mitchells.

It's one thing to use artistic licence, but it's quite another to take the pi$$.

With you on that studenting.

I guess the thing is with Ian, we are never quite sure what his financial situation is, as you say. Does he own all/some of these business outright, or is he mortgaged up to the hilt? He did say in a conversation with Johnny that he couldn't afford the Vic on his own.

Mr Watts, I agree with you that I don't mind a bit of artistic licence (like Shaz being invited to 'hear Chrissie's confession' despite the fact that the police already had cctv tape of that confession - because it makes good drama (in theory; in fact I thought it was a very weak scene). But to leave aside half a million £ worth of details is taking it too far!

And they haven't just forgotten about Chrissie's half of the Vic either - they have forgotten about the entire concept of probate.

Absolutely.

My family have recently had to go through that, and it's a lot of messing about and it takes months to sort out.

Now I agree that I wouldn't find it thrilling viewing to watch months of filling in forms and going between solicitors and courts etc. to sort that out, but it should have at least been mentioned.

Rather than simply forgotten about, as you so rightly said.

He actually was only goign togive Chrissie £2,500 for it. Thats why she said it was daylight robbery. I don't know how much they would normally go for.

in inside soap. it said he gave her around 25,000 cash

see, i knew it was around that figure! I'm sure i saw him scribble a '2' with his sweaty little hands.


but yes,eastenders does gloss over some very basic facts in order to 'advance' the plot. it is annoying

We now all know it was 5 grand, he said that last night

The fact that it was £5K was in itself ridiculous. Wouldn't last long in a life on the run with £5K.

Chrissie had no choice really. Ian got a bargin

Has he got a pub or a bargain Now ?

Absolutely. And it is getting progressively worse in this respect, in my view. Soon it will be set, like The Bold & The Beautiful for example, in an entirely imaginary universe where the laws of reality do not apply. I know it's a soap and we do want a bit of escapism but I hope that, once they have wrapped up current storylines, they will anchor it a bit more securely in reality.